Canon HDV and Adobe Premiere

Justin Kifer · June 26th, 2007, 09:58 PM

Now see... that is awesome because I was under the impression you couldn't capture or edit 24F footage from the A1 without the Matrox RT.X2 and CS3 when it is released or another external software package. Boy was I mislead!!

Thanks for the info!

Maksim Yankovskiy · June 26th, 2007, 11:09 PM

The real beauty is that in PPro2 when you capture 24f, you actually get 23.976fps progressive footage, which, if added to 24fps timeline, could be exported to MPEG2-DVD as native 24fps progressive scan video, with all MPEG2 flags correctly set. I know that for a fact, because my Sony DVP-S9000ES has an indicator light on the front pannel, which turns on when a pure progressive footage is detected. In this case it's using "Film" mode, instead of "Video" mode. Makes a BIG difference!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Kifer

Now see... that is awesome because I was under the impression you couldn't capture or edit 24F footage from the A1 without the Matrox RT.X2 and CS3 when it is released or another external software package. Boy was I mislead!!
Thanks for the info!

Ivan Barbarich · June 27th, 2007, 02:34 AM

Heres a few video tutes, showing how to capture HDV with PP2

http://www.esnips.com/web/Premiere-Pro-2-Video-Tutes

Darren Shipman · June 27th, 2007, 01:41 PM

Thanks again guys,
I have been tearing my hair out all day today, I posted copied the canon files but everytime I tried to use them it just crashed out PP2, I will spend some time dabbling with what Maksim has suggested and I will have a look at the tutes, I have been at this for 7-8 hours today as well as shooting stills in the studio.

Has anyone tried the trial version of pp cs3 yet?

I have also been trying to download that!

Cheers Darren.

Darren Shipman · June 27th, 2007, 01:50 PM

Ivan the tutes are a great help, i thought that all clips have to be Avi, but you are saying no probs!

This is a long way from tiffs eps jpgs psd etc that I am used to, I feel like I have a mountain to climb, it's comforting to know that I am having some hand holding.

Thanks again, I look forward to watching the rest of the tutes.

Darren

Luke Ross · June 27th, 2007, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren Shipman

Has anyone tried the trial version of pp cs3 yet?

I have also been trying to download that!

Cheers Darren.

Darren,
I have used PP CS3 at home on a test machine, but I just got my A1 last night, and have not tested HDV footage on it yet. From what I understand in reading other threads, the CS3 Trial does not allow HDV editing/capturing I guess. I am at work, and cannot confirm for sure, but that is what I have heard.

Darren Shipman · June 27th, 2007, 02:51 PM

Thanks Luke!

Darren

Brad Tyrrell · June 27th, 2007, 03:13 PM

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....34&postcount=5

Ivan Barbarich · June 27th, 2007, 06:03 PM

PP CS3 trial has definatly HDV disabled.

Darren Shipman · June 28th, 2007, 02:04 PM

Well guys,
I have managed to download some HDV footage as per Ivans tutes, but the footage when exported looks like it has been thru a hall of mirrors in terms of wavy at certain points.
it was captured as mpeg and I was trying to export it as a windows media item- or something similar- sorry I am at home now and don't have access to pp2. can anyone give me some pointers on this please?

N.B. the original footage had a bit of "jumpiness" but I think that it is due to it being the begining of a tape that I have been messing about with,trying to get all this lot sorted out!

Darren

Maksim Yankovskiy · June 28th, 2007, 04:33 PM

Darren,

Try exporting as MPEG2 (using HDV preset) with a fixed bitrate of 25Mbs. If you are shooting 24f, use MPEG2 and set progressive scan (no fields) in the video encoder parameters.

The jumping in the footage may be from panning if you are shooting in 24f and doing fast pans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren Shipman

Well guys,
... the footage when exported looks like it has been thru a hall of mirrors in terms of wavy at certain points.
it was captured as mpeg and I was trying to export it as a windows media item- or something similar- sorry I am at home now and don't have access to pp2. can anyone give me some pointers on this please?
Darren

Darren Shipman · June 28th, 2007, 10:44 PM

Thanks Maksim,
I will be on the case again when I get to the studio!

Darren

Jay Legere · July 9th, 2007, 09:09 AM

Hi,

I am new to the forum and am just curious about any of those who have used the A1 with PE 3.0. Any issues with 24f/30f/1080i etc...?

I am anticipating upgrading my software in the future, but in the meantime I want to plug away at this entry level editing software.
My camera is on its way and I have to say I will be on this site often to pick up on ideas.

Thanks to those who are able to respond!

John B. Nelson · July 9th, 2007, 02:41 PM

Hi Jay, welcome to the forum.

I use PE 3.0 to edit the video taken with my A1 and I am happy with its performance so far. I've had no problems working with 24f and 30f video. The only thing PE 3.0 doesn't do for me is capturing so I use HDVSplit for that. Of all the video editing software that is available in that price range, I would recomend PE 3.0 for sure.

-John

Jay Legere · July 9th, 2007, 03:16 PM

thanks for the reply!

I am glad my software will work with the xh-a1. I guess that means it works with all the frame-rates this camera has to offer?

I don't understand why there are difficulties capturing and I am unfamiliar with HDVSplit. I know there is an HDV captiuring option in the set-up menu when the program opens. What can you tell me about hdvsplit? Are there any links you know of that will educate me?

Thanks again I really appreciate it.

June 27th, 2007, 01:41 PM	#49
Darren Shipman New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: BIRMINGHAM WEST MIDS Posts: 17	canon xha1 & adobe premiere pro 2.0 Thanks again guys, I have been tearing my hair out all day today, I posted copied the canon files but everytime I tried to use them it just crashed out PP2, I will spend some time dabbling with what Maksim has suggested and I will have a look at the tutes, I have been at this for 7-8 hours today as well as shooting stills in the studio. Has anyone tried the trial version of pp cs3 yet? I have also been trying to download that! Cheers Darren.

June 27th, 2007, 01:50 PM	#50
Darren Shipman New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: BIRMINGHAM WEST MIDS Posts: 17	canon xha1 & adobe premiere pro 2.0 Ivans tutes Ivan the tutes are a great help, i thought that all clips have to be Avi, but you are saying no probs! This is a long way from tiffs eps jpgs psd etc that I am used to, I feel like I have a mountain to climb, it's comforting to know that I am having some hand holding. Thanks again, I look forward to watching the rest of the tutes. Darren

June 27th, 2007, 02:51 PM	#52
Darren Shipman New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: BIRMINGHAM WEST MIDS Posts: 17	canon xha1 & adobe premiere pro 2.0 Thanks Luke! Darren

July 9th, 2007, 09:09 AM	#58
Jay Legere Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Iqaluit Nunavut, Canada Posts: 98	premiere elements 3.0 and 24f Hi, I am new to the forum and am just curious about any of those who have used the A1 with PE 3.0. Any issues with 24f/30f/1080i etc...? I am anticipating upgrading my software in the future, but in the meantime I want to plug away at this entry level editing software. My camera is on its way and I have to say I will be on this site often to pick up on ideas. Thanks to those who are able to respond!

July 9th, 2007, 02:41 PM	#59
John B. Nelson Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bradford, PA Posts: 67	Hi Jay Hi Jay, welcome to the forum. I use PE 3.0 to edit the video taken with my A1 and I am happy with its performance so far. I've had no problems working with 24f and 30f video. The only thing PE 3.0 doesn't do for me is capturing so I use HDVSplit for that. Of all the video editing software that is available in that price range, I would recomend PE 3.0 for sure. -John

June 26th, 2007, 09:58 PM	#46
Justin Kifer Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Erie, PA Posts: 47	Now see... that is awesome because I was under the impression you couldn't capture or edit 24F footage from the A1 without the Matrox RT.X2 and CS3 when it is released or another external software package. Boy was I mislead!! Thanks for the info!

June 27th, 2007, 02:34 AM	#48
Ivan Barbarich Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 47	Heres a few video tutes, showing how to capture HDV with PP2 http://www.esnips.com/web/Premiere-Pro-2-Video-Tutes

June 27th, 2007, 03:13 PM	#53
Brad Tyrrell Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Morristown, New Jersey Posts: 249	http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showpost....34&postcount=5

June 27th, 2007, 06:03 PM	#54
Ivan Barbarich Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 47	PP CS3 trial has definatly HDV disabled.

June 28th, 2007, 02:04 PM	#55
Darren Shipman New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: BIRMINGHAM WEST MIDS Posts: 17	Well guys, I have managed to download some HDV footage as per Ivans tutes, but the footage when exported looks like it has been thru a hall of mirrors in terms of wavy at certain points. it was captured as mpeg and I was trying to export it as a windows media item- or something similar- sorry I am at home now and don't have access to pp2. can anyone give me some pointers on this please? N.B. the original footage had a bit of "jumpiness" but I think that it is due to it being the begining of a tape that I have been messing about with,trying to get all this lot sorted out! Darren

June 28th, 2007, 10:44 PM	#57
Darren Shipman New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: BIRMINGHAM WEST MIDS Posts: 17	Thanks Maksim, I will be on the case again when I get to the studio! Darren

July 9th, 2007, 03:16 PM	#60
Jay Legere Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Iqaluit Nunavut, Canada Posts: 98	thanks for the reply! I am glad my software will work with the xh-a1. I guess that means it works with all the frame-rates this camera has to offer? I don't understand why there are difficulties capturing and I am unfamiliar with HDVSplit. I know there is an HDV captiuring option in the set-up menu when the program opens. What can you tell me about hdvsplit? Are there any links you know of that will educate me? Thanks again I really appreciate it.