Premiere Pro CS3 Beta Download at DVinfo.net

Ray Bell · April 16th, 2007, 04:33 AM

For those wishing to play with the upcoming release of the new Premiere Pro
CS3 there is a Beta version for download here....

http://labs.adobe.com/

Deke Ryland · April 16th, 2007, 06:15 AM

What the!?!?! HDV and MPEG not supported? What a crock!

Rick Baumhauer · April 16th, 2007, 10:22 AM

Yeah, there is such a thing as releasing a beta that is so unfinished as to be useless. This was clearly an attempt to convince some who might be looking at Final Cut Pro on the Mac to think about going with Adobe's Production bundle instead.

I'll admit, I'm still considering it - as a Photoshop owner, I can upgrade to the Production bundle for less than the cost of FCP, and get Illustrator CS3 and Flash thrown in. However, the fact that I can't actually do anything meaningful with the beta is irritating enough to keep me on the fence for the time being.

As a Sony HDR-SR1 owner, I'm resigning myself to not having native AVCHD editing anytime soon, so I'm currently using Parallels/Boot Camp to convert my AVCHD files to Cineform AVIs, which play fine on the Mac side via Cineform's beta codecs, but also don't work with Premiere Pro ("unsupported compression").

Rick

Steven Gotz · April 16th, 2007, 01:12 PM

The issue is not so much "unfinished" as licensing. No HDV support is because it is turned off, not that it is not finished. None of the Premiere Pro trials have supported MPEG video. The released versions do.

Ray Bell · April 16th, 2007, 01:26 PM

Anyone know if you can load Cineform on PP CS3... if so, then HD will be supported in the Beta......

Peter Ferling · April 16th, 2007, 01:38 PM

I'm just as curious. I'm installing it now. I'll you know.

Peter Ferling · April 16th, 2007, 01:39 PM

691mb download. This could take a few...

Peter Ferling · April 16th, 2007, 03:39 PM

Although the HDV codecs/plugins/presets are present with the CS3 install and load, (including cineforms that I copied over from PPro2). You are still limited to DV capture and image size. There is an HDV folder in the presents, but blank, and sure enough, after loading the cineform code, the Cineform present folder is there but is also blank.

Changing to desktop mode still would only allow a DV resolution project.

It's not only just HDV/Mpeg, it's even uncompressed HD. I couldn't even capture/work with uncompressed Adobe HD-SDI or Prospect. You're stuck with good old DV editing mode or it's crash, crash, crash.

To be fair, I agree with the HDV license issues, and that cineform may need some treaks. However, I think if they should have just crippled HDV/Mpeg itself and allowed other licensed code to be tested on it, rather than an across the board larger than 480i restriction...

Ray Bell · April 16th, 2007, 03:54 PM

Thank Peter, Well that sucks.... before I went to work this morning I downloaded the beta and put in a Cineform intermediate file (AVI) and edited
a couple of seconds to see what would happen. Thats when I saw no HD
output...

But it did at least handle the intermediate file and it did put out SD...

I was hoping I could override the limits put on it by Adobe... but no go :-(

Peter Ferling · April 16th, 2007, 07:09 PM

I understand your frustration. What's the sense, this beta is not for HD.

John Westbury · April 16th, 2007, 07:47 PM

Thanks for the info. I'm downloading it now. (4%) 1 hr, 37 minutes left, but never mind, I wasn't planning on an early night anyway.

Rick Baumhauer · April 16th, 2007, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Gotz

The issue is not so much "unfinished" as licensing. No HDV support is because it is turned off, not that it is not finished. None of the Premiere Pro trials have supported MPEG video. The released versions do.

Yeah, I found out it was a licensing issue after I posted.

Still, it seems a little ridiculous - everybody and their brother wants to edit HD now, and not being able to test HD *anything*, no-way, no-how, kinda makes the beta seem pretty pointless.

Ray Bell · April 17th, 2007, 03:50 PM

From what I can tell, PP3 has very few new additions, this upgrade is more
likely for MAC and Vista........

Pete Bauer · April 17th, 2007, 05:08 PM

If by "very few" new additions, you aren't counting the inclusion of Encore with BluRay and Flash SWF export support plus OnLocation (formerly DV Rack), time remapping, a big interface makeover for the Project panel that allows on-the-fly clip searches and storyboarding, and Device Central to create output for mobile devices, then maybe. Not every user will care about every feature, but IMO those major features plus Vista and Mac compatibility are significant...especially for those of us using the rest of the Studio apps, whose new features and their integration will really improve workflows.

Deke Ryland · April 17th, 2007, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Bauer

If by "very few" new additions, you aren't counting the inclusion of .... a big interface makeover for the Project panel that allows on-the-fly clip searches and storyboarding

How does the new project panel allow for storyboarding? I love doing storyboarding and would be interested in getting the scoop on how it works!

April 16th, 2007, 04:33 AM	#1
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	Premiere Pro CS3 Beta Download For those wishing to play with the upcoming release of the new Premiere Pro CS3 there is a Beta version for download here.... http://labs.adobe.com/

April 16th, 2007, 01:12 PM	#4
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	The issue is not so much "unfinished" as licensing. No HDV support is because it is turned off, not that it is not finished. None of the Premiere Pro trials have supported MPEG video. The released versions do. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

April 16th, 2007, 01:38 PM	#6
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	I'm just as curious. I'm installing it now. I'll you know. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

April 16th, 2007, 01:39 PM	#7
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	691mb download. This could take a few... __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

April 16th, 2007, 03:39 PM	#8
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	Although the HDV codecs/plugins/presets are present with the CS3 install and load, (including cineforms that I copied over from PPro2). You are still limited to DV capture and image size. There is an HDV folder in the presents, but blank, and sure enough, after loading the cineform code, the Cineform present folder is there but is also blank. Changing to desktop mode still would only allow a DV resolution project. It's not only just HDV/Mpeg, it's even uncompressed HD. I couldn't even capture/work with uncompressed Adobe HD-SDI or Prospect. You're stuck with good old DV editing mode or it's crash, crash, crash. To be fair, I agree with the HDV license issues, and that cineform may need some treaks. However, I think if they should have just crippled HDV/Mpeg itself and allowed other licensed code to be tested on it, rather than an across the board larger than 480i restriction... __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

April 16th, 2007, 06:15 AM	#2
Deke Ryland Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 213	What the!?!?! HDV and MPEG not supported? What a crock!

April 16th, 2007, 10:22 AM	#3
Rick Baumhauer New Boot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: West Hartford, CT Posts: 14	Yeah, there is such a thing as releasing a beta that is so unfinished as to be useless. This was clearly an attempt to convince some who might be looking at Final Cut Pro on the Mac to think about going with Adobe's Production bundle instead. I'll admit, I'm still considering it - as a Photoshop owner, I can upgrade to the Production bundle for less than the cost of FCP, and get Illustrator CS3 and Flash thrown in. However, the fact that I can't actually do anything meaningful with the beta is irritating enough to keep me on the fence for the time being. As a Sony HDR-SR1 owner, I'm resigning myself to not having native AVCHD editing anytime soon, so I'm currently using Parallels/Boot Camp to convert my AVCHD files to Cineform AVIs, which play fine on the Mac side via Cineform's beta codecs, but also don't work with Premiere Pro ("unsupported compression"). Rick

April 16th, 2007, 01:26 PM	#5
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	Anyone know if you can load Cineform on PP CS3... if so, then HD will be supported in the Beta......

April 16th, 2007, 03:54 PM	#9
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	Thank Peter, Well that sucks.... before I went to work this morning I downloaded the beta and put in a Cineform intermediate file (AVI) and edited a couple of seconds to see what would happen. Thats when I saw no HD output... But it did at least handle the intermediate file and it did put out SD... I was hoping I could override the limits put on it by Adobe... but no go :-(

April 16th, 2007, 07:09 PM	#10
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	I understand your frustration. What's the sense, this beta is not for HD. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

April 16th, 2007, 07:47 PM	#11
John Westbury Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Portsmouth UK Posts: 34	Thanks for the info. I'm downloading it now. (4%) 1 hr, 37 minutes left, but never mind, I wasn't planning on an early night anyway. __________________ "Well I was working on that Orchid Preservation Society website, but I got sort of bogged down with it . . ."

April 17th, 2007, 03:50 PM	#13
Ray Bell Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,414	From what I can tell, PP3 has very few new additions, this upgrade is more likely for MAC and Vista........

April 17th, 2007, 05:08 PM	#14
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	If by "very few" new additions, you aren't counting the inclusion of Encore with BluRay and Flash SWF export support plus OnLocation (formerly DV Rack), time remapping, a big interface makeover for the Project panel that allows on-the-fly clip searches and storyboarding, and Device Central to create output for mobile devices, then maybe. Not every user will care about every feature, but IMO those major features plus Vista and Mac compatibility are significant...especially for those of us using the rest of the Studio apps, whose new features and their integration will really improve workflows. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!