Google Video, You Tube - Best export settings?

Steven Gotz · March 29th, 2007, 09:45 AM

I stand corrected.

Michael Barrette · March 29th, 2007, 10:40 AM

I'll also be chopping some of my video as it's shot in HDV and I'll be going to 4:3

I have after effects so I am thinking that may be the best program to handle this in? Or is premiere sufficient for this? or another program ideal? Any suggestions on that?

Steven Gotz · March 29th, 2007, 10:50 AM

I do it in Premiere Pro. It is simply a matter of creating a project using a smaller frame size and importing the HDV material into it. I find that the video I use for a 60" HDTV is different that the stuff I want on a video iPod for example.

Use an interview or discussion between two people. You use a 16:9 shot to capture them both, sitting facing each other. Great for the TV, but bad for the tiny screen. So you use the material in a 4:3 SD project and you find that you can isolate each person by using the full resolution of the HDV in the smaller frame. It feels like you zoomed in but you merely failed to zoom out.

I have taken this to the next level and created a 320X240 project and used HDV footage. Talk about zooming in!!!

Michael Barrette · March 29th, 2007, 02:27 PM

Interesting, basically shoot with one boring angle, then play around with it and you'll have multiple angles and shots for a web video...

I would think about doing this in After Effects, since it sounds like it is more effective at resizing the video... at least if you plan on using it for SD output at some point for DVD or whatnot...

Steven Gotz · March 29th, 2007, 04:22 PM

Not to change the topic, but HDV in After Effects has known issues (without Aspect HD).

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowled....cfm?id=332583

Michael Barrette · March 29th, 2007, 08:11 PM

More and more I hear about Aspect.. sounds pretty important.

Then again, people that are using Aspect are also using ProCoder it sounds like for their encoding... that's an extra $1k just to make premiere work properly with HDV... I wasn't expecting this when I decided to go with adobe as my suite...

This new speededit software sounds pretty cool... $400 and it's an entire NLE with the fastest transcoding available... so far extremely good reviews...

I'm determined to get a workflow here that is extremely efficient and extremely effective but not looking at throwing money at the problem if I can avoid it... the quicktime encoder may be the trick for web video... I am having severe problems getting my HDV into a format that I can back it up. Won't go back to tape (cuts out halfway through transoding), looks like it will take a 12-24 hour period to get a WM9 HDV file out for a 20 minute video which is way to time consuming for me, not to mention it very likely may stop working half way through... I am on Vista, probably going to change to XP in the next day or so and see if that helps...

Juan Parra · March 31st, 2007, 03:10 PM

Check few different settings for different encoders:
http://www.squidoo.com/youtuberight/

Steve Young · May 1st, 2007, 02:59 AM

I try now to avoid You Tube/Google Video after discovering Brightcove - its free and growing in popularity and I have received tons of emails from people asking how I got such good quality on my vids - sure it has something to do with the way Brightcove encodes but also because I convert from HDV Cineform using Sorenson

Here is a link: http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?...nnel=712914570

(The music is crazy watch out! Thats the dutch for you!)

March 29th, 2007, 09:45 AM	#16
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	I stand corrected. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

March 29th, 2007, 10:50 AM	#18
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	I do it in Premiere Pro. It is simply a matter of creating a project using a smaller frame size and importing the HDV material into it. I find that the video I use for a 60" HDTV is different that the stuff I want on a video iPod for example. Use an interview or discussion between two people. You use a 16:9 shot to capture them both, sitting facing each other. Great for the TV, but bad for the tiny screen. So you use the material in a 4:3 SD project and you find that you can isolate each person by using the full resolution of the HDV in the smaller frame. It feels like you zoomed in but you merely failed to zoom out. I have taken this to the next level and created a 320X240 project and used HDV footage. Talk about zooming in!!! __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

March 29th, 2007, 04:22 PM	#20
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	Not to change the topic, but HDV in After Effects has known issues (without Aspect HD). http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowled....cfm?id=332583 __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

March 31st, 2007, 03:10 PM	#22
Juan Parra Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 110	Compression Settings for Youtube Check few different settings for different encoders: http://www.squidoo.com/youtuberight/ __________________ Juan Parra

March 29th, 2007, 10:40 AM	#17
Michael Barrette Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: calgary, Canada Posts: 48	I'll also be chopping some of my video as it's shot in HDV and I'll be going to 4:3 I have after effects so I am thinking that may be the best program to handle this in? Or is premiere sufficient for this? or another program ideal? Any suggestions on that?

March 29th, 2007, 02:27 PM	#19
Michael Barrette Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: calgary, Canada Posts: 48	Interesting, basically shoot with one boring angle, then play around with it and you'll have multiple angles and shots for a web video... I would think about doing this in After Effects, since it sounds like it is more effective at resizing the video... at least if you plan on using it for SD output at some point for DVD or whatnot...

March 29th, 2007, 08:11 PM	#21
Michael Barrette Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: calgary, Canada Posts: 48	More and more I hear about Aspect.. sounds pretty important. Then again, people that are using Aspect are also using ProCoder it sounds like for their encoding... that's an extra $1k just to make premiere work properly with HDV... I wasn't expecting this when I decided to go with adobe as my suite... This new speededit software sounds pretty cool... $400 and it's an entire NLE with the fastest transcoding available... so far extremely good reviews... I'm determined to get a workflow here that is extremely efficient and extremely effective but not looking at throwing money at the problem if I can avoid it... the quicktime encoder may be the trick for web video... I am having severe problems getting my HDV into a format that I can back it up. Won't go back to tape (cuts out halfway through transoding), looks like it will take a 12-24 hour period to get a WM9 HDV file out for a 20 minute video which is way to time consuming for me, not to mention it very likely may stop working half way through... I am on Vista, probably going to change to XP in the next day or so and see if that helps...

May 1st, 2007, 02:59 AM	#23
Steve Young Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maidstone UK Posts: 37	I try now to avoid You Tube/Google Video after discovering Brightcove - its free and growing in popularity and I have received tons of emails from people asking how I got such good quality on my vids - sure it has something to do with the way Brightcove encodes but also because I convert from HDV Cineform using Sorenson Here is a link: http://www.brightcove.com/title.jsp?...nnel=712914570 (The music is crazy watch out! Thats the dutch for you!)