Sequences need rendering again? at DVinfo.net

Dan Burnap · February 27th, 2007, 08:33 AM

Hi, I have PPro 1.5 project containing a series of sequences which are all rendered with no problems.

I then imported all the sequences into another sequence assuming that as they were already rendered, to render this compilation sequence would take a matter of seconds, not so, it seems everything has to be rendered again..?

Adam Gold · February 27th, 2007, 02:09 PM

My understanding is that with any NLE the clips in your timeline are really just sets of instructions about where to go and what to do with the data to render a project. It's all virtual until you output to a file...

But I could be misinformed...

Bart Walczak · February 28th, 2007, 04:13 AM

If you copy/paste it will remain rendered but if you insert a sequence into another sequence, then it will have to render again.

It's a hindrance unfortunately.

Dan Burnap · February 28th, 2007, 11:31 AM

Thanks chaps

Ervin Farkas · February 28th, 2007, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bart Walczak

If you copy/paste it will remain rendered but if you insert a sequence into another sequence, then it will have to render again.

I whish I knew this last night... I knew it won't re-render if I copy and paste, used that in the past, but "it didn't click" why it's re-rendering when nesting a sequence into another one. I was working on a DVD directly from inside PPRO 2.0 and having my movie broken up into shorter sequences, it was the only way I was able to do it.

Oh well, this is why I spend time on this forum... to learn... Luckily I had other things to do in the meantime so I just let PPRO to do it's thing; it dind't take an awful lot.

Steven Gotz · February 28th, 2007, 04:54 PM

Nested sequences require rendering. That is "As Designed". But hopefully will be one of the design changes eventually, if not the next release.

Peter Ferling · March 1st, 2007, 08:22 AM

At least when you move a pre-rendered clip on the same timeline, it keeps all or a portion of the preview. It wasn't the case before. So, yes, would be nice to have clip reference back to their previews when nested.

Dan Burnap · March 1st, 2007, 05:01 PM

My project was made up of 24 songs filmed from a concert. I split them up into a sequence for every show just to make my life simpler and faster. For the final output though I just wanted one avi of the whole lot, hence why I was importing sequences into one back-to-back.

In the end I gave up after an estimated rendering time of about 60 years and took advantage of Encore 2's 'playlist' feature using the individual song avi's, saved a of time and I didnt have to insert chapters markers either.

February 27th, 2007, 08:33 AM	#1
Dan Burnap Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 335	Sequences need rendering again? Hi, I have PPro 1.5 project containing a series of sequences which are all rendered with no problems. I then imported all the sequences into another sequence assuming that as they were already rendered, to render this compilation sequence would take a matter of seconds, not so, it seems everything has to be rendered again..?

February 28th, 2007, 04:54 PM	#6
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	Nested sequences require rendering. That is "As Designed". But hopefully will be one of the design changes eventually, if not the next release. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

March 1st, 2007, 08:22 AM	#7
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	At least when you move a pre-rendered clip on the same timeline, it keeps all or a portion of the preview. It wasn't the case before. So, yes, would be nice to have clip reference back to their previews when nested. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

February 27th, 2007, 02:09 PM	#2
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	My understanding is that with any NLE the clips in your timeline are really just sets of instructions about where to go and what to do with the data to render a project. It's all virtual until you output to a file... But I could be misinformed...

February 28th, 2007, 04:13 AM	#3
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	If you copy/paste it will remain rendered but if you insert a sequence into another sequence, then it will have to render again. It's a hindrance unfortunately.

February 28th, 2007, 11:31 AM	#4
Dan Burnap Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 335	Thanks chaps

March 1st, 2007, 05:01 PM	#8
Dan Burnap Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 335	My project was made up of 24 songs filmed from a concert. I split them up into a sequence for every show just to make my life simpler and faster. For the final output though I just wanted one avi of the whole lot, hence why I was importing sequences into one back-to-back. In the end I gave up after an estimated rendering time of about 60 years and took advantage of Encore 2's 'playlist' feature using the individual song avi's, saved a of time and I didnt have to insert chapters markers either.