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Liam Carlin · October 17th, 2006, 02:38 PM

hi all im pretty new to all of this and im trying to get as much info as possible on all elements of production and was wondering if this book would help me learn all i need to know about premiere? or is there anything else that you would recommend?

http://www.bookfellas.co.uk/scripts/...915&source=J69

i will be using premiere for all of my editing so i need as much help as i can get and also just learning about all pixel aspect ratio's and all that stuff.

Thanks!!!

Bart Walczak · October 18th, 2006, 06:44 AM

I would recommend Total Training video for Adobe Premiere, this is really excellent resource.

www.totaltraining.com

Mike Teutsch · October 18th, 2006, 07:09 AM

Liam,

If you're like me at all, you will have a difficult time learning computer software out of a book. Couldn't learn it myself without the training DVDs and CDs. Total Training is expensive , but well worth it. How To Gurus have training CDs too, and they are not too bad. Check out Ebay for various auctions.

If you don't find what you need in a few weeks, drop me a line. I may be selling my Total Training DVDs for Premiere 1.5 soon, as I just bought the Studio Premium package. I'm still debating keeping them to help train others locally.

Good luck,

Mike

Steven Gotz · October 18th, 2006, 09:04 AM

I highly recommend that you look into the Total Training DVDs. In lieu of that, the book you reference was written by the same guy who does that training, and the included DVD had some very good material on it. By the way, there is a version 2.0 of that book as well.

(Using the same site as originally referenced)

http://www.bookfellas.co.uk/scripts/...asp?ref=771464

You might want to start off with a step-by-step book like the one Jeff Schell did and then get Jacob's book ...

http://www.bookfellas.co.uk/scripts/...asp?ref=766199

David Ziegelheim · October 18th, 2006, 10:56 AM

PP Studio Techniques is probably the best PP book. Highly recommended. I assume the DVD has the samples.

The TT videos are nice. However, I find it much harder to learn from a video.

Cal Johnson · October 18th, 2006, 11:18 AM

I'm going through the Premiere Pro 2.0 version of this book, same author, and so far I think its an excellent text. I think learning from video presentations is great, as it often shows you exactly what they are doing on the computer screen, and then the result.
However, you can't go wrong with having a text handy, and when you're learning the basics, it may be more efficient to look things up in a text while you're working with the program rather than trying to fire up a video and find the spot that talks about what you're after.
The Total Training stuff might be better when you're already familar with the program a bit, and want to get deeper into some of its features. On the other hand, some videos really help you get up and running with a program fast. I haven't used the Total Training videos for Premiere, so I don't know. But the book is going to be a lot cheaper, and mine came with a DVD that has videos on it too.
I'd say go for the book and then see how you feel after that.

Joshua Clarke · October 18th, 2006, 02:27 PM

I can attest to both the 1.5 and 2.0 versions of PPro Studio Techniques. I had used Premiere, as well as Avid, for a number of years and had very picaresque and misguided methods and workflows while operating NLEs. The 1.5 book did an amazing job of straightening me out and helping me get disciplined and structured while working PPro 1.5, which is the most important element of editing you need to learn. Jacob has a very informed and conversational tone and does not fluctuate between painfully simplistic and overwhelmingly technical (like Blain Brown's "Motion Picture and Video Lighting", for example).

I will E-mail you, as I have no need for my 1.5 book.

Lisa Shofner · October 18th, 2006, 03:14 PM

Personally, the book I buy for any new Adobe product is the Adobe Classroom in a Book for the product. The books are put together well, full color, and include a CD or DVD with tutorial assets. That's where I'd recommend starting.

I am currently working through the Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 book myself, I have in the past used the Photoshop and the Illustrator Classroom in a Book books with great success.

Steven Gotz · October 18th, 2006, 09:41 PM

The current price for the Premiere Pro 1.5 Total Training videos is pretty darn cheap. Under $60

It won't cover the new stuff, but it would sure give you a head start. Take a look for it on the Total Training site.

Cal Johnson · October 19th, 2006, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Gotz

The current price for the Premiere Pro 1.5 Total Training videos is pretty darn cheap. Under $60

Not only that, its done by the same guy who authored the book, so it really comes down to what your personal preference is, read it or watch it. From my experience, its rare that a video tutorial doesn't accelerate the learning curve.

October 17th, 2006, 02:38 PM	#1
Liam Carlin Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 154	would this book be any good? hi all im pretty new to all of this and im trying to get as much info as possible on all elements of production and was wondering if this book would help me learn all i need to know about premiere? or is there anything else that you would recommend? http://www.bookfellas.co.uk/scripts/...915&source=J69 i will be using premiere for all of my editing so i need as much help as i can get and also just learning about all pixel aspect ratio's and all that stuff. Thanks!!! __________________ www.basicproduction.co.uk

October 18th, 2006, 07:09 AM	#3
Mike Teutsch Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 2,614	Liam, If you're like me at all, you will have a difficult time learning computer software out of a book. Couldn't learn it myself without the training DVDs and CDs. Total Training is expensive , but well worth it. How To Gurus have training CDs too, and they are not too bad. Check out Ebay for various auctions. If you don't find what you need in a few weeks, drop me a line. I may be selling my Total Training DVDs for Premiere 1.5 soon, as I just bought the Studio Premium package. I'm still debating keeping them to help train others locally. Good luck, Mike __________________ Chapter one, line one. The BH.

October 18th, 2006, 09:04 AM	#4
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	I highly recommend that you look into the Total Training DVDs. In lieu of that, the book you reference was written by the same guy who does that training, and the included DVD had some very good material on it. By the way, there is a version 2.0 of that book as well. (Using the same site as originally referenced) http://www.bookfellas.co.uk/scripts/...asp?ref=771464 You might want to start off with a step-by-step book like the one Jeff Schell did and then get Jacob's book ... http://www.bookfellas.co.uk/scripts/...asp?ref=766199 __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

October 18th, 2006, 03:14 PM	#8
Lisa Shofner Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 373	Adobe Classroom In A Book Personally, the book I buy for any new Adobe product is the Adobe Classroom in a Book for the product. The books are put together well, full color, and include a CD or DVD with tutorial assets. That's where I'd recommend starting. I am currently working through the Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 book myself, I have in the past used the Photoshop and the Illustrator Classroom in a Book books with great success. __________________ [http://www.ljparkerphotography.com] photos [http://www.youtube.com/darkdragonvegas] videos

October 18th, 2006, 09:41 PM	#9
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	The current price for the Premiere Pro 1.5 Total Training videos is pretty darn cheap. Under $60 It won't cover the new stuff, but it would sure give you a head start. Take a look for it on the Total Training site. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

October 18th, 2006, 06:44 AM	#2
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	I would recommend Total Training video for Adobe Premiere, this is really excellent resource. www.totaltraining.com

October 18th, 2006, 10:56 AM	#5
David Ziegelheim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Warren, NJ Posts: 398	PP Studio Techniques is probably the best PP book. Highly recommended. I assume the DVD has the samples. The TT videos are nice. However, I find it much harder to learn from a video.

October 18th, 2006, 11:18 AM	#6
Cal Johnson Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 180	I'm going through the Premiere Pro 2.0 version of this book, same author, and so far I think its an excellent text. I think learning from video presentations is great, as it often shows you exactly what they are doing on the computer screen, and then the result. However, you can't go wrong with having a text handy, and when you're learning the basics, it may be more efficient to look things up in a text while you're working with the program rather than trying to fire up a video and find the spot that talks about what you're after. The Total Training stuff might be better when you're already familar with the program a bit, and want to get deeper into some of its features. On the other hand, some videos really help you get up and running with a program fast. I haven't used the Total Training videos for Premiere, so I don't know. But the book is going to be a lot cheaper, and mine came with a DVD that has videos on it too. I'd say go for the book and then see how you feel after that.

October 18th, 2006, 02:27 PM	#7
Joshua Clarke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 88	I can attest to both the 1.5 and 2.0 versions of PPro Studio Techniques. I had used Premiere, as well as Avid, for a number of years and had very picaresque and misguided methods and workflows while operating NLEs. The 1.5 book did an amazing job of straightening me out and helping me get disciplined and structured while working PPro 1.5, which is the most important element of editing you need to learn. Jacob has a very informed and conversational tone and does not fluctuate between painfully simplistic and overwhelmingly technical (like Blain Brown's "Motion Picture and Video Lighting", for example). I will E-mail you, as I have no need for my 1.5 book.