Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2004

Clint Comer · January 24th, 2004, 01:58 AM

wait realtime preview via 1394 out?? You mean like a DV in signal to a camera??

Dennis Sladek · January 24th, 2004, 04:23 AM

Paul,
Yes, PPro does realtime output to 1394 just fine. I use it all the time, no problem. If your camera has 1394 in and some form of output such as svideo or RCA to a monitor, you'll be just fine.

I also have the Canopus ADVC-100. It works GREAT. The PC and PPPro sees it as a 1394 camera, and you don't have to keep a camera plugged into it.
http://www.canopus.us/US/products/ADVC-100/pm_advc-100.asp

Julian Luttrell · January 24th, 2004, 11:30 AM

Creating subtitles that each appear and disappear at just the right timecode is a traditional pain in the a**.

You can buy specialist tools that create and/or read text/binary files containing descriptions of exactly what the subtitle text is, when it starts and finishes, its font, colour, and size. And puts them onto the video. This can be software only (eg DVD authoring software), or hardware (eg broadcast environments).

Or you can add them one at a time as in the first answer, tweaking each one till it's right. And just swallow the time and effort hit.

Premiere, and other PC NLEs, aren't really designed to provide a proper workflow for this kind of thing.

Regards,

Julian

Marcia Janine Galles · January 26th, 2004, 03:18 PM

Ok, I'm confused... at DV Expo in LA the Adobe guy said 24p wouldn't be available in Premier until sometime this spring. I shoot with a DVX and have been checking out various software (hate FCP, leaning toward Avid Express Pro, though I'm more and more impressed with the Vegas Demo). But from this thread it appears it's available now? Is it true 24p support like the others I mentioned?

Barry Rivadue · January 26th, 2004, 03:29 PM

I have Vegas--and I believe Vegas supports 24p. Vegas has alot of interesting plug-ins available (Excalibur, Tsnumai, Neon), available with demos also.

Marcia Janine Galles · January 26th, 2004, 03:58 PM

Cool, Barry. Will go hunt them down and check them out...

Donie Kelly · January 26th, 2004, 05:47 PM

Hi all

I'm looking for a old style film effect for use in Adobe premier but all that I can find are expensive plugin packs. Any way I can do this for free as it's a short sequence that needs this effect.

Thanks
Donie

David Stoneburner · January 27th, 2004, 08:49 AM

If you buy Quicktime Player Pro, for around $30 dollars, you should be able to take that footage into the player, apply there old film filter, adjust it to your liking, and then save it as a DV file to take back into Premiere.

Rob Lohman · January 27th, 2004, 03:37 PM

A lot of effects can be made with a little time yourself by using
the filters that come with the package and combining those.
It will take time to learn what does what and what happens if
you combine them, but it's cheap!

Glenn Chan · January 27th, 2004, 09:28 PM

A combination of filters will do it.

Premiere 6.5 also had a film look plug-in, but it's a bit overdone and cheesy for my tastes. The viewer will definitely get the point and the film effect as far as I remember wasn't annoying (unlike some of the crappy film look imitations I see on TV) so it's alright.

Yi Fong Yu · January 28th, 2004, 09:45 PM

there is also sony's SDDS (7.1) but it is only used in cinemas. there are also MLP layers of DVDs for DVD-Audio and DSD for SACD. lots of digital mayhem... basically =).

Joe Cinquina · January 29th, 2004, 09:26 AM

Can someone please tell me the best way to color match footage shot from different cameras. I know there are many tools for this. I recently shot a dance performance and used 3 cameras; a Canon XL1s, a Canon Gl2 and a Sony TRV950. The GL2 and XL1s footage is almost identical, but the Sony footage is a little light (blownout) and a little hotter (reddish. How can I get the Sony footage closer to the other cameras'?

Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,

Joe

Kalmin Fullard · January 29th, 2004, 04:11 PM

With PremPro you would use dvfilmmaker to convert the raw 24PA file to something PremPro could use.

Vegas supports the advanced pulldown from the panny directly without any plugins.

Avid supports the panny out of the box also.

I'm sure (and can't wait...) that adobe will provide an update also.

Adam Brennan · February 1st, 2004, 06:54 PM

I need to find a plug in for my Adobe pro. The plug in I am looking for is where I can make white accents in the film glow more and have control over the softness. Something dreamy or something you would use for like a wedding or creating memories.

Thanks in advance. I was using Big filmfx and installed a new motherboard which caused me to lose my program I was using.

Peter Jefferson · February 2nd, 2004, 01:04 AM

after effects would have this.. or um.. uhem.. vegas has it built in cough ;)

January 24th, 2004, 01:58 AM	#106
Clint Comer Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 144	wait realtime preview via 1394 out?? You mean like a DV in signal to a camera?? __________________ Vlog On! http://youtube.com/clintus

January 26th, 2004, 05:47 PM	#112
Donie Kelly Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 159	Is there such a thing as a free plugin for Premier Pro? Hi all I'm looking for a old style film effect for use in Adobe premier but all that I can find are expensive plugin packs. Any way I can do this for free as it's a short sequence that needs this effect. Thanks Donie

January 27th, 2004, 03:37 PM	#114
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	A lot of effects can be made with a little time yourself by using the filters that come with the package and combining those. It will take time to learn what does what and what happens if you combine them, but it's cheap! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 28th, 2004, 09:45 PM	#116
Yi Fong Yu Trustee Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vulcan Posts: 1,564	there is also sony's SDDS (7.1) but it is only used in cinemas. there are also MLP layers of DVDs for DVD-Audio and DSD for SACD. lots of digital mayhem... basically =). __________________ bow wow wow

January 29th, 2004, 09:26 AM	#117
Joe Cinquina Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lomita, Ca Posts: 25	Color matching in Premiere Pro Can someone please tell me the best way to color match footage shot from different cameras. I know there are many tools for this. I recently shot a dance performance and used 3 cameras; a Canon XL1s, a Canon Gl2 and a Sony TRV950. The GL2 and XL1s footage is almost identical, but the Sony footage is a little light (blownout) and a little hotter (reddish. How can I get the Sony footage closer to the other cameras'? Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Joe

January 24th, 2004, 04:23 AM	#107
Dennis Sladek Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 40	Paul, Yes, PPro does realtime output to 1394 just fine. I use it all the time, no problem. If your camera has 1394 in and some form of output such as svideo or RCA to a monitor, you'll be just fine. I also have the Canopus ADVC-100. It works GREAT. The PC and PPPro sees it as a 1394 camera, and you don't have to keep a camera plugged into it. http://www.canopus.us/US/products/ADVC-100/pm_advc-100.asp

January 24th, 2004, 11:30 AM	#108
Julian Luttrell Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 164	Creating subtitles that each appear and disappear at just the right timecode is a traditional pain in the a**. You can buy specialist tools that create and/or read text/binary files containing descriptions of exactly what the subtitle text is, when it starts and finishes, its font, colour, and size. And puts them onto the video. This can be software only (eg DVD authoring software), or hardware (eg broadcast environments). Or you can add them one at a time as in the first answer, tweaking each one till it's right. And just swallow the time and effort hit. Premiere, and other PC NLEs, aren't really designed to provide a proper workflow for this kind of thing. Regards, Julian

January 26th, 2004, 03:18 PM	#109
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Ok, I'm confused... at DV Expo in LA the Adobe guy said 24p wouldn't be available in Premier until sometime this spring. I shoot with a DVX and have been checking out various software (hate FCP, leaning toward Avid Express Pro, though I'm more and more impressed with the Vegas Demo). But from this thread it appears it's available now? Is it true 24p support like the others I mentioned?

January 26th, 2004, 03:29 PM	#110
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	I have Vegas--and I believe Vegas supports 24p. Vegas has alot of interesting plug-ins available (Excalibur, Tsnumai, Neon), available with demos also.

January 26th, 2004, 03:58 PM	#111
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Cool, Barry. Will go hunt them down and check them out...

January 27th, 2004, 08:49 AM	#113
David Stoneburner Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 493	If you buy Quicktime Player Pro, for around $30 dollars, you should be able to take that footage into the player, apply there old film filter, adjust it to your liking, and then save it as a DV file to take back into Premiere.

January 27th, 2004, 09:28 PM	#115
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	A combination of filters will do it. Premiere 6.5 also had a film look plug-in, but it's a bit overdone and cheesy for my tastes. The viewer will definitely get the point and the film effect as far as I remember wasn't annoying (unlike some of the crappy film look imitations I see on TV) so it's alright.

January 29th, 2004, 04:11 PM	#118
Kalmin Fullard New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 18	24fps support With PremPro you would use dvfilmmaker to convert the raw 24PA file to something PremPro could use. Vegas supports the advanced pulldown from the panny directly without any plugins. Avid supports the panny out of the box also. I'm sure (and can't wait...) that adobe will provide an update also.

February 1st, 2004, 06:54 PM	#119
Adam Brennan Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 58	Need help on finding a plug in...please! I need to find a plug in for my Adobe pro. The plug in I am looking for is where I can make white accents in the film glow more and have control over the softness. Something dreamy or something you would use for like a wedding or creating memories. Thanks in advance. I was using Big filmfx and installed a new motherboard which caused me to lose my program I was using.

February 2nd, 2004, 01:04 AM	#120
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	after effects would have this.. or um.. uhem.. vegas has it built in cough ;)