Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2004

Charley Gallagher · August 13th, 2004, 07:39 PM

I used Premiere 6.5 for awhile and it did the job. I loved the look and feel of Premiere Pro but had similar problems to yours, Brian. I would spend a lot of time with Task Manager running and watch where the memory was going. I ended up putting in 1.5 meg of memory and most of the lag problems went away.

However I feel there is a memory leak in Windows or in Premiere Pro, at least on my machine. Memory is used, then when it is no longer needed, it isn't given back. It is likened to an Inn where people sign in and are supposed to sign out. On a busy day it would appear that all 100 or so rooms are taken, according to the REGISTRY because 30 of the people who left never signed out.

I know Windows XP leaks memory and I somewhere found a fix for that (don't ask, I can no longer find the source and I just reinstalled Windows tonite but might not need it as Vegas does behave poorly) but my take on the situation is that Premiere must do it also, OR something on my machine, and your machine, is doing it.

Just a suggestion but watch your performance in Task Manager when it gets slow. Then save the project and reboot. Try the very same task and see if it doesnt run better. I would reboot Premiere Pro after long periods of use and it always came back running better.

Tyler Smith · August 14th, 2004, 02:47 AM

Hi,

well i've just got into this editing game and am popping my cherry with premiere 6.0. I'm kinda struggling with basic concepts and need some help (like how to get those transtions to work!)

I am a recent ex-student and am low on cash (thats kind of why I ended up with this old version of premiere), as such i was wondering if anyone new where i could access an online resource where i could score some free info.

thanks

tyler

Rob Lohman · August 14th, 2004, 05:58 AM

I don't think Premiere Pro supports that yet, but I could be wrong on that.

Carl Walters · August 14th, 2004, 09:08 AM

I'ver now got my ppro 1.5, installed and running. After sorting out the set up (i use it with Matrox) I must say I am more than over the moon with it. SO far so good. At last I can sit down and edit without bugs and freezes.
(I'll bet now the next time I use it I get a problem!!)

Richard Maloney · August 14th, 2004, 03:04 PM

I think its great also.
The stability is improved, but I would recommend that you change the default auto-save to 5 minutes and make backups as you go file>save as copy. Also, the things we ask it to do once you get speedy are really intensive for the computer so give it a bit of breathing time eg. when its conforming an audio file wait till its done- not long!

Steven Gotz · August 14th, 2004, 03:48 PM

You might want to start by watching some free tutorials at http://www.wrigleyvideo.com

Drop by my site for links to other tutorials sites (and lots of other links). You might even want to spend $25 and take the VTC tutorials online.

Mark Williams · August 14th, 2004, 05:40 PM

Tyler,

Try the following:

http://www.adobe.com/education/dvtraining/premiere6/main.html

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?14@@.ee6b372

Both are good sources to get the basics. Also, if 6.0 is stable on your system you will find it quite capable of doing all kinds of special effects type stuff. I have used it for years and have yet to outgrow it even though it is tempting to go with the newest software with all the latest bells and whistles. But, just look at any good production and they use mostly basic disolves and cuts. Thats where I believe you need to be starting out. I use the 6.5 version and expect it to meet my needs for many years to come.

Regards,

Mark

Christopher Reynolds · August 15th, 2004, 02:39 PM

I recently bought Premiere Pro 1.5, didn't upgrade due to...well, legal reasons that I will omit from here. BUT, I'm glad I didn't upgrade because when I installed Premiere Pro 1.5, I tried loading my Premiere 6.5 files with it, and of course, it had to conform the file to a Premiere Pro 1.5 file. When I loaded the file finally, all seemed fine, but when I played it (It was a music video without fancy effects and strobing, so the sound synch had to be perfect) the sound was horribly out of synch, and many of my effects were gone! Since then, I stuck with Premiere 6.5 to finish out the editing, then exported it to an AVI file to add titles in Premiere Pro 1.5 (6.5 had a horrible flaw in titles where if you changed the shadow color form anything but black, it would turn into a blotchy mess). It isn't an issue anymomre, but just curious if other people had this problem before. I keep hearing people praise Vegas and bash Premiere, but my girlfriend and I just spent $1,600 on the Video collection Pro set, and I'm very happy with it, and don't plan on changing NLE platforms due to the price of doing such. Anywho, what was your experience in transferring 6.5 files to 1.5?

Steven Gotz · August 15th, 2004, 08:37 PM

As you discovered, the import of the older product's files into the newer product was not flawless. A new set of effects, and a new codec, really made the changes significant, and most people just finish up in the old program and then move on.

I would like to have seen a more seamless import, but it just didn't happen.

Jeremy Bond · August 16th, 2004, 01:25 PM

Hi, Using Premiere 6.0 and just starting out. Shot some footage, captured using firewire and edited with Premiere. But when I look at the edited footage it's a really bad quality - quite "line"y in parts. When you then look at it on full screen (as an AVI in Media Player) it looks even worse, like it's video shot on a poor mega pixelled digital stills camera that deos a few seconds of video! What's up? Help MUCH appreciated!! Thanks ,,,,,,

Glenn Chan · August 16th, 2004, 01:38 PM

Does it look fine on a TV? Hook up a TV to your camcorder/deck.

Ken Wagner · August 16th, 2004, 03:44 PM

Why use Premiere to do time laps when you can use Scenalyzer? Check it out. .. awesome little application. I think the link would be www.scenalyzer.com. Much better than Premeires DV capture interface.

. . .and no, I'm not associated with Scenalyzer.

Richard Lewis · August 16th, 2004, 04:48 PM

Hi Carl, glad to see that its all working.

It's really nice to finally edit without glitches and freezes.

Are u using the Matrox rtx 100 extreme?

Jeremy Bond · August 16th, 2004, 05:03 PM

Well I don't have the cables required to go to TV from my computer. It's fine on the camera itself, but it's when the image is captured on the computer...Any clues?.... Thanks

Carl Walters · August 16th, 2004, 05:43 PM

......Are u using the Matrox rtx 100 extreme?...

Yes I am Richard. I purchased the extreme pro kit earlier this year, i missed out on the free upgrade to 1.5 by just 8 days. At least it's working okay now.

August 14th, 2004, 02:47 AM	#902
Tyler Smith New Boot Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sydney, NSW Australia Posts: 24	online premiere 6.0 help Hi, well i've just got into this editing game and am popping my cherry with premiere 6.0. I'm kinda struggling with basic concepts and need some help (like how to get those transtions to work!) I am a recent ex-student and am low on cash (thats kind of why I ended up with this old version of premiere), as such i was wondering if anyone new where i could access an online resource where i could score some free info. thanks tyler __________________ www.free-range.tv

August 14th, 2004, 05:58 AM	#903
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I don't think Premiere Pro supports that yet, but I could be wrong on that. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 15th, 2004, 02:39 PM	#908
Christopher Reynolds Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Canton, Ohio Posts: 109	Transfer 6.5 files to Pro 1.5 I recently bought Premiere Pro 1.5, didn't upgrade due to...well, legal reasons that I will omit from here. BUT, I'm glad I didn't upgrade because when I installed Premiere Pro 1.5, I tried loading my Premiere 6.5 files with it, and of course, it had to conform the file to a Premiere Pro 1.5 file. When I loaded the file finally, all seemed fine, but when I played it (It was a music video without fancy effects and strobing, so the sound synch had to be perfect) the sound was horribly out of synch, and many of my effects were gone! Since then, I stuck with Premiere 6.5 to finish out the editing, then exported it to an AVI file to add titles in Premiere Pro 1.5 (6.5 had a horrible flaw in titles where if you changed the shadow color form anything but black, it would turn into a blotchy mess). It isn't an issue anymomre, but just curious if other people had this problem before. I keep hearing people praise Vegas and bash Premiere, but my girlfriend and I just spent $1,600 on the Video collection Pro set, and I'm very happy with it, and don't plan on changing NLE platforms due to the price of doing such. Anywho, what was your experience in transferring 6.5 files to 1.5? __________________ The only thing worse than quitting is being afraid to start. Get off your bum and go shoot something!

August 16th, 2004, 01:25 PM	#910
Jeremy Bond Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 29	Bad Picture Quality on 6.0 Hi, Using Premiere 6.0 and just starting out. Shot some footage, captured using firewire and edited with Premiere. But when I look at the edited footage it's a really bad quality - quite "line"y in parts. When you then look at it on full screen (as an AVI in Media Player) it looks even worse, like it's video shot on a poor mega pixelled digital stills camera that deos a few seconds of video! What's up? Help MUCH appreciated!! Thanks ,,,,,, __________________ Best Wishes, Jeremy

August 16th, 2004, 04:48 PM	#913
Richard Lewis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Manchester and Kent, UK Posts: 256	Hi Carl, glad to see that its all working. It's really nice to finally edit without glitches and freezes. Are u using the Matrox rtx 100 extreme? __________________ Richard Lewis. Steadicam Owner / Operator

August 13th, 2004, 07:39 PM	#901
Charley Gallagher Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Collingswood, NJ Posts: 99	I used Premiere 6.5 for awhile and it did the job. I loved the look and feel of Premiere Pro but had similar problems to yours, Brian. I would spend a lot of time with Task Manager running and watch where the memory was going. I ended up putting in 1.5 meg of memory and most of the lag problems went away. However I feel there is a memory leak in Windows or in Premiere Pro, at least on my machine. Memory is used, then when it is no longer needed, it isn't given back. It is likened to an Inn where people sign in and are supposed to sign out. On a busy day it would appear that all 100 or so rooms are taken, according to the REGISTRY because 30 of the people who left never signed out. I know Windows XP leaks memory and I somewhere found a fix for that (don't ask, I can no longer find the source and I just reinstalled Windows tonite but might not need it as Vegas does behave poorly) but my take on the situation is that Premiere must do it also, OR something on my machine, and your machine, is doing it. Just a suggestion but watch your performance in Task Manager when it gets slow. Then save the project and reboot. Try the very same task and see if it doesnt run better. I would reboot Premiere Pro after long periods of use and it always came back running better.

August 14th, 2004, 09:08 AM	#904
Carl Walters Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: East Midlands Posts: 137	I'ver now got my ppro 1.5, installed and running. After sorting out the set up (i use it with Matrox) I must say I am more than over the moon with it. SO far so good. At last I can sit down and edit without bugs and freezes. (I'll bet now the next time I use it I get a problem!!)

August 14th, 2004, 03:04 PM	#905
Richard Maloney Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 90	I think its great also. The stability is improved, but I would recommend that you change the default auto-save to 5 minutes and make backups as you go file>save as copy. Also, the things we ask it to do once you get speedy are really intensive for the computer so give it a bit of breathing time eg. when its conforming an audio file wait till its done- not long!

August 14th, 2004, 03:48 PM	#906
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	You might want to start by watching some free tutorials at http://www.wrigleyvideo.com Drop by my site for links to other tutorials sites (and lots of other links). You might even want to spend $25 and take the VTC tutorials online.

August 14th, 2004, 05:40 PM	#907
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Tyler, Try the following: http://www.adobe.com/education/dvtraining/premiere6/main.html http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?14@@.ee6b372 Both are good sources to get the basics. Also, if 6.0 is stable on your system you will find it quite capable of doing all kinds of special effects type stuff. I have used it for years and have yet to outgrow it even though it is tempting to go with the newest software with all the latest bells and whistles. But, just look at any good production and they use mostly basic disolves and cuts. Thats where I believe you need to be starting out. I use the 6.5 version and expect it to meet my needs for many years to come. Regards, Mark

August 15th, 2004, 08:37 PM	#909
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	As you discovered, the import of the older product's files into the newer product was not flawless. A new set of effects, and a new codec, really made the changes significant, and most people just finish up in the old program and then move on. I would like to have seen a more seamless import, but it just didn't happen.

August 16th, 2004, 01:38 PM	#911
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Does it look fine on a TV? Hook up a TV to your camcorder/deck.

August 16th, 2004, 03:44 PM	#912
Ken Wagner New Boot Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seven Valleys, PA Posts: 9	Why use Premiere to do time laps when you can use Scenalyzer? Check it out. .. awesome little application. I think the link would be www.scenalyzer.com. Much better than Premeires DV capture interface. . . .and no, I'm not associated with Scenalyzer.

August 16th, 2004, 05:03 PM	#914
Jeremy Bond Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 29	Well I don't have the cables required to go to TV from my computer. It's fine on the camera itself, but it's when the image is captured on the computer...Any clues?.... Thanks __________________ Best Wishes, Jeremy

August 16th, 2004, 05:43 PM	#915
Carl Walters Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: East Midlands Posts: 137	......Are u using the Matrox rtx 100 extreme?... Yes I am Richard. I purchased the extreme pro kit earlier this year, i missed out on the free upgrade to 1.5 by just 8 days. At least it's working okay now.