Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2004

Matthew de Jongh · June 23rd, 2004, 01:39 AM

well yes and no...

what camera did you shoot your footage with?

matthew

June 23rd, 2004, 01:53 AM

canon xl1s

Rob Lohman · June 23rd, 2004, 02:00 AM

Yes it will take out frames since the Canon records at 29.97 fps.
This should not look to good on pans (slow movement) and
fast movements. You might want to try those things out before
going ahead.

Matthew de Jongh · June 23rd, 2004, 02:32 AM

well maybe i'm wrong but to my thinking, unless your camera is capable of shooting in 24 frames, and you actually shot the footage in the 24 frame mode, what is the point of trying to make it output at 24 frames?

my panasonic dvx-100a will shoot in 60i, 24p that is written to the tape in 60i, or true 24 frames progressive.

matthew

Rob Lohman · June 23rd, 2004, 04:51 AM

Matthew: the Canon XL1(S) does not allow shooting in 24fps...
Just so you know.

Matthew de Jongh · June 23rd, 2004, 04:56 AM

yeah i knew that.

as far as a i know the dvx-100(a) is one of the very few that does 24p and the others are very high end cameras.

matthew

Richard Lewis · June 23rd, 2004, 11:56 AM

?

Adam Beck · June 23rd, 2004, 01:44 PM

This is from ADS website, makers of the pyro cards:

Headlines
ADS Tech announces Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 support for entire PYRO DV product line.
Upgrade details coming soon.

This Good, Good News

Sola Osofisan · June 23rd, 2004, 04:39 PM

Will try it. Thanks.

Ed Smith · June 24th, 2004, 02:55 AM

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Did I go over board?

Pinnacle have stopped producing drivers for Premiere. The last version that will work with the drivers is P6.5. It will only work with pinnacles own NLE range Liquid Purple.

However you can still install PP on your system and use the card as a standard firewire card. You will however not get any of Pinnacles effects, and you will not be able to use the breakout box. I would suggest that if you want a RT capture board then Matrox are currently doing a great offer where you can trade in your DV500 card and get an RTX 100 at a slight discount. Your system will need to be quite powerful though.

Hope this helps,

Ed Smith · June 24th, 2004, 02:59 AM

So that would be why!!! That makes sense, I guess it would be using the 1.0 drivers currently which is why it is doing wired things...

June 25th, 2004, 09:34 AM

I saw that the sony dvd101 is not a supported camera for premire pro on the adobe web site. This camera uses DVD and records in mpeg2 format, or whatever is the norm for dvds. Does this mean that video taken with this camera cannot be taken into premire to be edited etc.

Also, if there is soem plug-in to support it, would my video look really crappy since DV is 17Gb per hour, and theis is 3 gb per hour?

Aharon Judovin · June 25th, 2004, 02:24 PM

Hi there.

I guess the answer depends upon whether your audience will be watching in wide screen? If a person doesn’t have a wide screen TV would he/she be happy with your widescreen DVD?

Internet is another matter. My last film combines widescreen and regular 4x3 footage. 4x3 inside of 16x9 leaves enough space for moving titles on both sides. Please visit my WEB site if you care to watch an example: http://www.videoclassified.com/. An icon on the front page with a lady in a red dress will show a wide screen movie.

June 26th, 2004, 02:12 AM

i had a premiere pro project with a few files that i burned onto a dvd rom to move to a new computer. I was surpsied when premiere found all the files itself (they were all in one folder this time, but were not when i took the files off the computer for burning onto dvd). must be a new feature.

Ming Dong · June 26th, 2004, 09:05 AM

DVD101 records in mpeg2 (DVD format). I know of no software that can edit mpeg2.

The review I read said video quality is on par with other 1-ccd cameras.

June 23rd, 2004, 02:00 AM	#648
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Yes it will take out frames since the Canon records at 29.97 fps. This should not look to good on pans (slow movement) and fast movements. You might want to try those things out before going ahead. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 23rd, 2004, 04:51 AM	#650
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Matthew: the Canon XL1(S) does not allow shooting in 24fps... Just so you know. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

June 23rd, 2004, 11:56 AM	#652
Richard Lewis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Manchester and Kent, UK Posts: 256	Does Premier Pro work with DV500? ? __________________ Richard Lewis. Steadicam Owner / Operator

June 23rd, 2004, 01:44 PM	#653
Adam Beck Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Visalia, California Posts: 41	Some Good News!!! This is from ADS website, makers of the pyro cards: Headlines ADS Tech announces Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 support for entire PYRO DV product line. Upgrade details coming soon. This Good, Good News

June 24th, 2004, 02:55 AM	#655
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Did I go over board? Pinnacle have stopped producing drivers for Premiere. The last version that will work with the drivers is P6.5. It will only work with pinnacles own NLE range Liquid Purple. However you can still install PP on your system and use the card as a standard firewire card. You will however not get any of Pinnacles effects, and you will not be able to use the breakout box. I would suggest that if you want a RT capture board then Matrox are currently doing a great offer where you can trade in your DV500 card and get an RTX 100 at a slight discount. Your system will need to be quite powerful though. Hope this helps, __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

June 23rd, 2004, 01:39 AM	#646
Matthew de Jongh Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: sounthern maine Posts: 344	well yes and no... what camera did you shoot your footage with? matthew

June 23rd, 2004, 01:53 AM	#647
Gary Wilson Posts: n/a	canon xl1s

June 23rd, 2004, 02:32 AM	#649
Matthew de Jongh Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: sounthern maine Posts: 344	well maybe i'm wrong but to my thinking, unless your camera is capable of shooting in 24 frames, and you actually shot the footage in the 24 frame mode, what is the point of trying to make it output at 24 frames? my panasonic dvx-100a will shoot in 60i, 24p that is written to the tape in 60i, or true 24 frames progressive. matthew

June 23rd, 2004, 04:56 AM	#651
Matthew de Jongh Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: sounthern maine Posts: 344	yeah i knew that. as far as a i know the dvx-100(a) is one of the very few that does 24p and the others are very high end cameras. matthew

June 23rd, 2004, 04:39 PM	#654
Sola Osofisan Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 31	Will try it. Thanks.

June 24th, 2004, 02:59 AM	#656
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	So that would be why!!! That makes sense, I guess it would be using the 1.0 drivers currently which is why it is doing wired things... __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

June 25th, 2004, 09:34 AM	#657
Ross Williams Posts: n/a	Compatibility with DVD Cam I saw that the sony dvd101 is not a supported camera for premire pro on the adobe web site. This camera uses DVD and records in mpeg2 format, or whatever is the norm for dvds. Does this mean that video taken with this camera cannot be taken into premire to be edited etc. Also, if there is soem plug-in to support it, would my video look really crappy since DV is 17Gb per hour, and theis is 3 gb per hour?

June 25th, 2004, 02:24 PM	#658
Aharon Judovin Tourist Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2	depends on your audience Hi there. I guess the answer depends upon whether your audience will be watching in wide screen? If a person doesn’t have a wide screen TV would he/she be happy with your widescreen DVD? Internet is another matter. My last film combines widescreen and regular 4x3 footage. 4x3 inside of 16x9 leaves enough space for moving titles on both sides. Please visit my WEB site if you care to watch an example: http://www.videoclassified.com/. An icon on the front page with a lady in a red dress will show a wide screen movie. __________________ Regards, Aharon. VIDEO: http://www.videoclassified.com/pres1/ E-Mail: advertiser@videoclassified.com Phone: 416-418-5127 WEB: http://www.videoclassified.com/

June 26th, 2004, 02:12 AM	#659
Gary Wilson Posts: n/a	i had a premiere pro project with a few files that i burned onto a dvd rom to move to a new computer. I was surpsied when premiere found all the files itself (they were all in one folder this time, but were not when i took the files off the computer for burning onto dvd). must be a new feature.

June 26th, 2004, 09:05 AM	#660
Ming Dong Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 92	DVD101 records in mpeg2 (DVD format). I know of no software that can edit mpeg2. The review I read said video quality is on par with other 1-ccd cameras.