Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2004

Rob Lohman · April 1st, 2004, 04:24 AM

Any chance you are converting between 48 khz and 44.1 for
example? Which version of Premiere are you using?

John Britt · April 1st, 2004, 08:28 AM

Yeah, finally one day I noticed that a "Title" option had appeared in the menu bar (next to "Help"), which led me to realize that the "File" funtions like "Save As" worked as well (Which was great, because my copy of 6.5 defaults all title saves to my Capture folder). It isn't very intuitive because titling opens up in a new window, just like Motion, Transperancy, and other options.

Ed -- I skipped Premiere 6 (I went from 5.1 to 6.5), but I'm thinking that 6.5's titling engine was different from 6's? I have absolutely no proof of this, except the old chestnut, "I think I read it in a review when 6.5 was released." I could be thinking of a different app altogether...

Ed Smith · April 1st, 2004, 08:41 AM

Hi John, Yes the titling function was different in 6 it was version 6.5 that saw major improvements to the titling engine, thats why I wondered whether they had done the same way back then - It seemed to be a pain trying to save titles if I remember ?-)

Any how thanks for the tip.

Agus Casse · April 1st, 2004, 12:14 PM

Using premiere pro, i select the 48khz template, but seens like i am capturing in 41khz, i will check on that.

Also, the problem seens mainly when importing songs in mp3 to my proyects.

Jeff Klein · April 1st, 2004, 09:37 PM

I finally got my DV500 card working with my computer, used to have very jerky avi playback (AVI Problem in Windows XP), moving the card to a non-IRQ sharing slot fixed it. Now I'm trying to export in MPEG2 and it's giving me a System Could Not Be Initialized error. When I hit OK, it says File Or Path Not Found, but the file path it shows below the error message does exist.

Anybody seen this problem before? I'm running the bundled Premiere 6.0 with the 6.0.1 patch.

Thanks,
Jeff K

Ed Smith · April 2nd, 2004, 02:47 AM

Hi Jeff,

Glad to hear you managed to sort out your jerky playback problem, with out having to spend money on a new motherboard etc.

Can you please give us a bit more information?

What option are you using to export MPEG2?

Does the error happen as its about to do the export, or just before its finishing?

What MPEG2 settings are you using?

Thanks,

Ed

Rob Lohman · April 2nd, 2004, 03:11 AM

41khz? DV is 48 khz so that shouldn't be an issue. It might be
better to decode the MP3's to WAV first (decode them to 48 khz
since that is what your project is using) so that it all matches
perfectly. MP3's are 44.1 khz (mostly).

Jeff Klein · April 2nd, 2004, 05:42 AM

Beginner's mistake: I didn't know to load the Pinnacle DVD settings from the Export Movie settings window, I thought I only had to set up the various general/video/audio, etc options. After I figured that out from a similar thread it started recording fine, but I haven't had a chance to check the results (stupid day job <G>). So hopefully this is solved....but I may be back.

Thanks,
Jeff

p.s. I'm glad I didn't have to change the motherboard, too. ABS wasn't budging on not replacing the wrong one they sent me since they claim I ordered it.

Jeff Klein · April 2nd, 2004, 03:29 PM

Well, I'm back. I listened to the wave file that Premiere created with the mp2 file, and some of the mixed in audio clips are really quiet. Also, the added in bits that I timed to match it are off time a little now. Actually, I've seen that happen after closing the project and coming back to it.

So anyone dealt with audio timing issues within Premiere and/or losses of selected audio byte levels after mpeg export?

Thanks,
Jeff

Ed Smith · April 3rd, 2004, 11:06 AM

Hi Jeff,

Never come across that sort of problem before.

Does it play Ok from the timeline?

You can export just audio as a WAV file on its own. Select your work area and choose export audio from the export movie option. Make sure the settings are set to 48000KHz and you are exporting a PCM wav file. Give it a name, and place and then export it.

I'm guessing that the audio and vidio were not multiplexed? i.e. you got 2 files, 1 audio and 1 video. So in order to see whether they are in sync you will have to import them into your authoring package.

What DVD authoring package are you using?

Hope this helps,

Ed

Barry Gribble · April 3rd, 2004, 11:10 AM

All,

Is there any way to use a Photoshop plug-in in premiere? I saw reference to that here once, but I don't think the full instructions were there....

I would love to be able to use things like smart blur and defuse glow for video... any way to make that happen?

Thanks in advance.

Ignacio Rodriguez · April 3rd, 2004, 11:17 AM

I used to do that when I used Premiere 5 (Mac) and discovered that Adobe had done something to PS plugs that wouldn't let me use them in Premiere. So I had to copy the plug's from a prevous version of Photoshop and then they worked. That was a long time ago and before OSX so it might be different now.

Barry Gribble · April 3rd, 2004, 11:35 AM

hmmmm... I believe.... maybe I should dig up an old version of photoshop?

Are the plug-ins cross-platform? I am on PC....

Thanks

Ignacio Rodriguez · April 3rd, 2004, 01:03 PM

> Are the plug-ins cross-platform? I am on PC....

I think not. However, this limitation I experienced might not exist on the PC. Try figuring out where Photoshop and Premiere store the plug-ins and then move the PS plugs to where Premiere expects it's own. Be carefull not to overwrite any of Premiere's plugs, some may have the same name. Late versions of Adobe programs support subfolders in the plug-in folders, perhaps on the PC it's also supported so you can try just copying all PS plugs into a subfolder and seeing if they show up inside Premiere's list. Hope this helps.

John Britt · April 3rd, 2004, 01:12 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Ignacio Rodriguez : Try figuring out where Photoshop and Premiere store the plug-ins -->>>

This one's easy (at least in the PC versions of Pshop and Premiere that I've owned) -- they store them in a folder named "Plug-ins" (C drive -> Program Files -> Adobe -> *App of Your Choice* -> Plug-ins)

I've tried putting P-Shop plugins into After Effects before with little luck. Some of the plugs AE simply wouldn't recognize; others appeared under "Effects" but trying to use them caused AE to crash. No permanent damage done, though. I think only one P-Shop plug-in -- Dust and Scratches, perhaps -- worked in After Effects.

Usually, the Plug-ins folder will also recognize any subfolders containing plugs as well -- so feel free to do some trial and error, creating a "Pshop-ins" subfolder in Premiere's Plug-ins folder and dropping PS plugs into it. Restart Premiere and see what happens. I doubt that many (if any) will work, but give it the old college try...

April 1st, 2004, 04:24 AM	#286
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Any chance you are converting between 48 khz and 44.1 for example? Which version of Premiere are you using? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 1st, 2004, 08:41 AM	#288
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Hi John, Yes the titling function was different in 6 it was version 6.5 that saw major improvements to the titling engine, thats why I wondered whether they had done the same way back then - It seemed to be a pain trying to save titles if I remember ?-) Any how thanks for the tip. __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

April 1st, 2004, 12:14 PM	#289
Agus Casse Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Guatemala Posts: 322	Using premiere pro, i select the 48khz template, but seens like i am capturing in 41khz, i will check on that. Also, the problem seens mainly when importing songs in mp3 to my proyects. __________________ Agus35 - the ultimate tool for indie DV filmakers -

April 1st, 2004, 09:37 PM	#290
Jeff Klein Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brooklyn Park, Maryland Posts: 60	Premiere 6.0 MPEG export error code. I finally got my DV500 card working with my computer, used to have very jerky avi playback (AVI Problem in Windows XP), moving the card to a non-IRQ sharing slot fixed it. Now I'm trying to export in MPEG2 and it's giving me a System Could Not Be Initialized error. When I hit OK, it says File Or Path Not Found, but the file path it shows below the error message does exist. Anybody seen this problem before? I'm running the bundled Premiere 6.0 with the 6.0.1 patch. Thanks, Jeff K __________________ Jeff K (If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.)

April 2nd, 2004, 02:47 AM	#291
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Hi Jeff, Glad to hear you managed to sort out your jerky playback problem, with out having to spend money on a new motherboard etc. Can you please give us a bit more information? What option are you using to export MPEG2? Does the error happen as its about to do the export, or just before its finishing? What MPEG2 settings are you using? Thanks, Ed __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

April 1st, 2004, 08:28 AM	#287
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	Yeah, finally one day I noticed that a "Title" option had appeared in the menu bar (next to "Help"), which led me to realize that the "File" funtions like "Save As" worked as well (Which was great, because my copy of 6.5 defaults all title saves to my Capture folder). It isn't very intuitive because titling opens up in a new window, just like Motion, Transperancy, and other options. Ed -- I skipped Premiere 6 (I went from 5.1 to 6.5), but I'm thinking that 6.5's titling engine was different from 6's? I have absolutely no proof of this, except the old chestnut, "I think I read it in a review when 6.5 was released." I could be thinking of a different app altogether...

April 2nd, 2004, 03:11 AM	#292
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	41khz? DV is 48 khz so that shouldn't be an issue. It might be better to decode the MP3's to WAV first (decode them to 48 khz since that is what your project is using) so that it all matches perfectly. MP3's are 44.1 khz (mostly). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 2nd, 2004, 05:42 AM	#293
Jeff Klein Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brooklyn Park, Maryland Posts: 60	Beginner's mistake: I didn't know to load the Pinnacle DVD settings from the Export Movie settings window, I thought I only had to set up the various general/video/audio, etc options. After I figured that out from a similar thread it started recording fine, but I haven't had a chance to check the results (stupid day job <G>). So hopefully this is solved....but I may be back. Thanks, Jeff p.s. I'm glad I didn't have to change the motherboard, too. ABS wasn't budging on not replacing the wrong one they sent me since they claim I ordered it. __________________ Jeff K (If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.)

April 2nd, 2004, 03:29 PM	#294
Jeff Klein Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brooklyn Park, Maryland Posts: 60	Well, I'm back. I listened to the wave file that Premiere created with the mp2 file, and some of the mixed in audio clips are really quiet. Also, the added in bits that I timed to match it are off time a little now. Actually, I've seen that happen after closing the project and coming back to it. So anyone dealt with audio timing issues within Premiere and/or losses of selected audio byte levels after mpeg export? Thanks, Jeff __________________ Jeff K (If God brings you to it, He will bring you through it.)

April 3rd, 2004, 11:06 AM	#295
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Hi Jeff, Never come across that sort of problem before. Does it play Ok from the timeline? You can export just audio as a WAV file on its own. Select your work area and choose export audio from the export movie option. Make sure the settings are set to 48000KHz and you are exporting a PCM wav file. Give it a name, and place and then export it. I'm guessing that the audio and vidio were not multiplexed? i.e. you got 2 files, 1 audio and 1 video. So in order to see whether they are in sync you will have to import them into your authoring package. What DVD authoring package are you using? Hope this helps, Ed __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

April 3rd, 2004, 11:10 AM	#296
Barry Gribble Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 817	Photoshop Plug-ins in Premiere All, Is there any way to use a Photoshop plug-in in premiere? I saw reference to that here once, but I don't think the full instructions were there.... I would love to be able to use things like smart blur and defuse glow for video... any way to make that happen? Thanks in advance. __________________ Barry Gribble Integral Arts, IMDB

April 3rd, 2004, 11:17 AM	#297
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	I used to do that when I used Premiere 5 (Mac) and discovered that Adobe had done something to PS plugs that wouldn't let me use them in Premiere. So I had to copy the plug's from a prevous version of Photoshop and then they worked. That was a long time ago and before OSX so it might be different now. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

April 3rd, 2004, 11:35 AM	#298
Barry Gribble Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 817	hmmmm... I believe.... maybe I should dig up an old version of photoshop? Are the plug-ins cross-platform? I am on PC.... Thanks __________________ Barry Gribble Integral Arts, IMDB

April 3rd, 2004, 01:03 PM	#299
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	> Are the plug-ins cross-platform? I am on PC.... I think not. However, this limitation I experienced might not exist on the PC. Try figuring out where Photoshop and Premiere store the plug-ins and then move the PS plugs to where Premiere expects it's own. Be carefull not to overwrite any of Premiere's plugs, some may have the same name. Late versions of Adobe programs support subfolders in the plug-in folders, perhaps on the PC it's also supported so you can try just copying all PS plugs into a subfolder and seeing if they show up inside Premiere's list. Hope this helps. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

April 3rd, 2004, 01:12 PM	#300
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	<<<-- Originally posted by Ignacio Rodriguez : Try figuring out where Photoshop and Premiere store the plug-ins -->>> This one's easy (at least in the PC versions of Pshop and Premiere that I've owned) -- they store them in a folder named "Plug-ins" (C drive -> Program Files -> Adobe -> App of Your Choice -> Plug-ins) I've tried putting P-Shop plugins into After Effects before with little luck. Some of the plugs AE simply wouldn't recognize; others appeared under "Effects" but trying to use them caused AE to crash. No permanent damage done, though. I think only one P-Shop plug-in -- Dust and Scratches, perhaps -- worked in After Effects. Usually, the Plug-ins folder will also recognize any subfolders containing plugs as well -- so feel free to do some trial and error, creating a "Pshop-ins" subfolder in Premiere's Plug-ins folder and dropping PS plugs into it. Restart Premiere and see what happens. I doubt that many (if any) will work, but give it the old college try...