Panasonic P2HD and Premiere Pro

Mark Williams · October 15th, 2007, 09:06 AM

Gary,

Shouldn't we be able to get "real-time" viewing with the BM-Intesity card to a preview monitor without using the Matrox RT card....

Gary Bettan · October 15th, 2007, 09:19 AM

Not sure if you'll get real-time output of P2 footage w/ Intensity. It should work, but we never tried it. Intensity & Intensity Pro are amazing cards that give you fantastic HDMI I/O.

Just to clarify. The RT.X2 doesn't give you real-time previews, it gives you real-time video editing. Many of us have forgotten how valuable this added performance can be. With DV computers have gotten do fast that real-time hardware isn't needed. With compressed HD formats (HDV, DVCProHD etc.) the RT.X2 adds a level of real-time features that can have a significant impact on your workflow.

Gary

David Saraceno · October 15th, 2007, 10:12 AM

My understanding is that the Intensity card is not compatible with 24pNative footage.

Not certain, but that's what I recall being told in response to a question.

Dan Eschenfelder · October 22nd, 2007, 09:13 AM

I noticed in Dav's video that he was importing 1080i video from the P2. While he was importing the footage I looked and did not see the option to import 1080p. Does Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 work with 1080p?

Carl Middleton · October 22nd, 2007, 09:33 AM

Also, Cineform might be worth considering for your workflow with Premiere & P2... I'm honestly not sure how it works with P2 as I've never played with one, but it could make for a nice workflow for ya!

C

David Saraceno · October 22nd, 2007, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Eschenfelder

I noticed in Dav's video that he was importing 1080i video from the P2. While he was importing the footage I looked and did not see the option to import 1080p. Does Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 work with 1080p?

There is a DVCProHD 1080i 24p preset.

Brad Neal · October 22nd, 2007, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Bettan

If you need additional performance beyond what Premiere Pro 3.1 will give you woth P2, you should check out Matrox RT.X2.

It will add a level of real-time editing to your workflow.
http://www.videoguys.com/Emails/rtx2-bun.html

Gary

This is true for 1080 HDV, but not DVCPRO HD 1080. The RT.X2 only goes as far as 720P with DVCPRO HD.

From the Matrox website:
• Native HDV 1080i, HDV 1080p, HDV 720p (JVC ProHD), Panasonic P2 MXF 720p, and MPEG-2 4:2:2 I-frame HD editing

Alan Waters · November 4th, 2007, 10:21 AM

What would rendering times be like with the RTx2?
Rendering is the bain of the adage...time is money...arrrrgghhhhhh

TingSern Wong · November 7th, 2007, 09:38 AM

What about Glass Valley's (Canopus) EDIUS? I have been using it with great success to edit P2 / MXF files. It is totally seemless - just import the clips directly (no conversion, no rendering) into EDIUS BIN and everything is there, ready to be dragged to timeline.

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Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 758	Not sure if you'll get real-time output of P2 footage w/ Intensity. It should work, but we never tried it. Intensity & Intensity Pro are amazing cards that give you fantastic HDMI I/O. Just to clarify. The RT.X2 doesn't give you real-time previews, it gives you real-time video editing. Many of us have forgotten how valuable this added performance can be. With DV computers have gotten do fast that real-time hardware isn't needed. With compressed HD formats (HDV, DVCProHD etc.) the RT.X2 adds a level of real-time features that can have a significant impact on your workflow. Gary __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

October 15th, 2007, 10:12 AM	#93
David Saraceno Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inland Northwest Posts: 490	My understanding is that the Intensity card is not compatible with 24pNative footage. Not certain, but that's what I recall being told in response to a question.

October 22nd, 2007, 09:13 AM	#94
Dan Eschenfelder New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 20	I noticed in Dav's video that he was importing 1080i video from the P2. While he was importing the footage I looked and did not see the option to import 1080p. Does Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 work with 1080p?

October 22nd, 2007, 09:33 AM	#95
Carl Middleton Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 562	Also, Cineform might be worth considering for your workflow with Premiere & P2... I'm honestly not sure how it works with P2 as I've never played with one, but it could make for a nice workflow for ya! C

November 4th, 2007, 10:21 AM	#98
Alan Waters Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 36	What would rendering times be like with the RTx2? Rendering is the bain of the adage...time is money...arrrrgghhhhhh

November 7th, 2007, 09:38 AM	#99
TingSern Wong Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore, Rep of SINGAPORE Posts: 749	What about Glass Valley's (Canopus) EDIUS? I have been using it with great success to edit P2 / MXF files. It is totally seemless - just import the clips directly (no conversion, no rendering) into EDIUS BIN and everything is there, ready to be dragged to timeline.