Panasonic P2HD and Premiere Pro

Dick Campbell · January 4th, 2007, 12:01 PM

Do you have a link? Is it for the bootcamp side or the Mac side?

Ben Bixby · January 4th, 2007, 12:54 PM

They are bringing it back for Mac OSX Intel Machines only.

Wade Spencer · January 4th, 2007, 01:18 PM

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01...php?lsrc=mcrss

Robert Lane · January 4th, 2007, 02:09 PM

You can download a Beta copy of Soundbooth for Intel-Macs on the Adobe labs site: http://labs.adobe.com. There is no Beta available for the Mac-Premeire but who knows, maybe they'll release one someday.

I've tried Soundbooth Beta and found it overly simplified; no sound shaping controls available (curves, time etc) but apparently that's not within the mission profile for Soundbooths' intended market.

Andzei Matsukevits · February 10th, 2007, 07:15 AM

Raylight came up with a great update, no more conversion between MXF and AVI is needed.
"New with release 2.02: plug-ins for both Adobe PremiereTM and Sony VegasTM to allow you to drag MXF files directly into the project!"

www.dvfilm.com

Robert Lane · February 10th, 2007, 07:28 AM

Although not confirmed it's almost 95% sure that the upcoming versions of FCP, Avid and others will also be able to use MXF natively by NAB or at least announce the launch of such updates. In the meantime Raylight works for PC's, HD Log and P2 Log are my preferred trans-code converters for the Mac.

Vince Curtis · February 11th, 2007, 03:41 PM

Great news for Premiere users !

Pablo Lozano · October 10th, 2007, 05:02 AM

hI,
I know that most of the people edit with finnal cut, but I have been working with Premier for years I now we are buying a HVX and we are thinking who will work premier and which level of PC we will need to work properly.
Thank you very much
Pablo

Brad Neal · October 10th, 2007, 06:12 AM

Hi Pablo,

There is an update coming to CS3 that makes PPro (CS3 only) P2 compatible.

It's not out yet, but it will be very soon.

-Brad

David Saraceno · October 10th, 2007, 11:50 AM

This was announced several weeks ago at IBC.

I don't know whether it will be out "very soon" inasmuch as it was announced and hasn't shipped.

But it was announced.

Denis Danatzko · October 10th, 2007, 07:24 PM

for more than a year. As I understand it, the biggest difference between Adobe and other NLEs is that Adobe thus far does not like P2/mxf file format, so I use CineForm Aspect HD (and HDLink, when necessary). Aspect HD works as a plug-in to PPro2, while HDLink is a standalone program.

I shoot to P2, offload to a hard drive, then use HDLink to "Convert" the footage. I destine the converted footage to a separate folder, and I'm then ready to bring it in to PPro2. The conversion does add a few additional minutes to the time it takes to ingest, but is still impressively shorter than capturing tape.

Be aware there is other software named Raylight (Raylite?) that is either free or considerably less expensive than Aspect HD. I know that's used by lots of folks on this forum, and I've heard/read it does everything (or nearly so) that Aspect HD does.

Until whatever P2/mxf update to CS3 comes along, Raylight would probably be the least expensive option.

Once you get a good grip on the workflow, you may find yourself thinking you'll never go back to tape again.

Good luck...and enjoy.

Gary Bettan · October 11th, 2007, 09:24 AM

DAV’s TechTable by Dave HelmlyPrem Pro & P2

What’s New?

With the new Premiere Pro CS3 and the 3.1 update, you can now natively Ingest, Edit, and Export the Panasonic P2 format. All you need to do is to shoot your video and simply drag ,drop , and edit – it’s that easy. There is no need to transcode your video with an intermediate codec in order to use them on the timeline, and there are no AVI or Quicktime wrappers – just native P2 format.

Premiere Pro CS3 will actually allow you to edit directly on the P2 card. This means you can shoot your video and start making a quick rough cut on your laptop while going to your next shoot. Once you get back to your desktop Premiere Pro workstation, you can copy the P2 clips onto your desktop workstation and continue editing. For those of you with a Matrox Axio, you’ve been asking for a laptop based solution to use with your Axio and it’s finally here.

If you use or plan to buy any of the AJA or BlackMagic products, you’ll be pleasantly surprised with their support for Premiere Pro CS3 (v3.1) as well.
http://blogs.adobe.com/davtechtable/...and_p2_su.html

Gary

Pablo Lozano · October 15th, 2007, 04:38 AM

Thank you very much to all of you for your information.
Another question is what I need to move properly the 100 Mbs in my computer?
We are going to do a docu that will be 55 minutes, so we are worry how we can move of that data.
Thanks in advanced
Pablo

Mark Williams · October 15th, 2007, 05:32 AM

Just viewed the video "how to" over at Dave's site. Excellent integration by Adobe of P2.

Gary Bettan · October 15th, 2007, 08:59 AM

If you need additional performance beyond what Premiere Pro 3.1 will give you woth P2, you should check out Matrox RT.X2.

It will add a level of real-time editing to your workflow.
http://www.videoguys.com/Emails/rtx2-bun.html

Gary

January 4th, 2007, 12:54 PM	#77
Ben Bixby Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 75	They are bringing it back for Mac OSX Intel Machines only. __________________ Ben Bixby benbixby@mac.com

February 10th, 2007, 07:15 AM	#80
Andzei Matsukevits Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 300	edit MXF natively in Premiere and Vegas! Raylight came up with a great update, no more conversion between MXF and AVI is needed. "New with release 2.02: plug-ins for both Adobe PremiereTM and Sony VegasTM to allow you to drag MXF files directly into the project!" www.dvfilm.com

October 10th, 2007, 05:02 AM	#83
Pablo Lozano New Boot Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 23	How does Premiere work with P2? hI, I know that most of the people edit with finnal cut, but I have been working with Premier for years I now we are buying a HVX and we are thinking who will work premier and which level of PC we will need to work properly. Thank you very much Pablo

October 10th, 2007, 07:24 PM	#86
Denis Danatzko Major Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC Metro area Posts: 579	I've used Adobe CS2 with HVX footage for more than a year. As I understand it, the biggest difference between Adobe and other NLEs is that Adobe thus far does not like P2/mxf file format, so I use CineForm Aspect HD (and HDLink, when necessary). Aspect HD works as a plug-in to PPro2, while HDLink is a standalone program. I shoot to P2, offload to a hard drive, then use HDLink to "Convert" the footage. I destine the converted footage to a separate folder, and I'm then ready to bring it in to PPro2. The conversion does add a few additional minutes to the time it takes to ingest, but is still impressively shorter than capturing tape. Be aware there is other software named Raylight (Raylite?) that is either free or considerably less expensive than Aspect HD. I know that's used by lots of folks on this forum, and I've heard/read it does everything (or nearly so) that Aspect HD does. Until whatever P2/mxf update to CS3 comes along, Raylight would probably be the least expensive option. Once you get a good grip on the workflow, you may find yourself thinking you'll never go back to tape again. Good luck...and enjoy. __________________ Denis ------------ Our actions are based on our own experience and knowledge. Thus, no one is ever totally right, nor totally wrong. We simply act from what we "know" to be true, based on that experience and knowledge. Beyond that, we pose questions to others.

October 11th, 2007, 09:24 AM	#87
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 758	DAV’s TechTable by Dave HelmlyPrem Pro & P2 What’s New? With the new Premiere Pro CS3 and the 3.1 update, you can now natively Ingest, Edit, and Export the Panasonic P2 format. All you need to do is to shoot your video and simply drag ,drop , and edit – it’s that easy. There is no need to transcode your video with an intermediate codec in order to use them on the timeline, and there are no AVI or Quicktime wrappers – just native P2 format. Premiere Pro CS3 will actually allow you to edit directly on the P2 card. This means you can shoot your video and start making a quick rough cut on your laptop while going to your next shoot. Once you get back to your desktop Premiere Pro workstation, you can copy the P2 clips onto your desktop workstation and continue editing. For those of you with a Matrox Axio, you’ve been asking for a laptop based solution to use with your Axio and it’s finally here. If you use or plan to buy any of the AJA or BlackMagic products, you’ll be pleasantly surprised with their support for Premiere Pro CS3 (v3.1) as well. http://blogs.adobe.com/davtechtable/...and_p2_su.html Gary __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

January 4th, 2007, 12:01 PM	#76
Dick Campbell Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 117	Do you have a link? Is it for the bootcamp side or the Mac side?

January 4th, 2007, 01:18 PM	#78
Wade Spencer Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wellsboro, Pa Posts: 285	http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/01...php?lsrc=mcrss

January 4th, 2007, 02:09 PM	#79
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,823 Images: 15	You can download a Beta copy of Soundbooth for Intel-Macs on the Adobe labs site: http://labs.adobe.com. There is no Beta available for the Mac-Premeire but who knows, maybe they'll release one someday. I've tried Soundbooth Beta and found it overly simplified; no sound shaping controls available (curves, time etc) but apparently that's not within the mission profile for Soundbooths' intended market.

February 10th, 2007, 07:28 AM	#81
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,823 Images: 15	Although not confirmed it's almost 95% sure that the upcoming versions of FCP, Avid and others will also be able to use MXF natively by NAB or at least announce the launch of such updates. In the meantime Raylight works for PC's, HD Log and P2 Log are my preferred trans-code converters for the Mac.

February 11th, 2007, 03:41 PM	#82
Vince Curtis Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 69	Great news for Premiere users !

October 10th, 2007, 06:12 AM	#84
Brad Neal Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 35	Hi Pablo, There is an update coming to CS3 that makes PPro (CS3 only) P2 compatible. It's not out yet, but it will be very soon. -Brad

October 10th, 2007, 11:50 AM	#85
David Saraceno Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inland Northwest Posts: 490	This was announced several weeks ago at IBC. I don't know whether it will be out "very soon" inasmuch as it was announced and hasn't shipped. But it was announced.

October 15th, 2007, 04:38 AM	#88
Pablo Lozano New Boot Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 23	What I need in my PC? Thank you very much to all of you for your information. Another question is what I need to move properly the 100 Mbs in my computer? We are going to do a docu that will be 55 minutes, so we are worry how we can move of that data. Thanks in advanced Pablo

October 15th, 2007, 05:32 AM	#89
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Just viewed the video "how to" over at Dave's site. Excellent integration by Adobe of P2. __________________ Mark videos: http://vimeo.com/channels/3523 Stock: http://www.pond5.com/artist/mark29

October 15th, 2007, 08:59 AM	#90
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 758	If you need additional performance beyond what Premiere Pro 3.1 will give you woth P2, you should check out Matrox RT.X2. It will add a level of real-time editing to your workflow. http://www.videoguys.com/Emails/rtx2-bun.html Gary __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF