Sony HDV and Premiere Pro

Alex Raskin · March 7th, 2006, 03:10 PM

I have somewhat limited experience with DVFilm Maker 2.2.

It seems to me that the 60i -> 24p converted files using Aspect HD codec via DVFilm exhibit some red tint and are slightly darker (comparing to normal 60i Aspect HD files as produced by Cineform's own HDLink m2t->avi utility.)

Frank Werner · March 8th, 2006, 11:23 AM

Hi,

again another newbie question. Ok I edited my first footage with Premiere Pro and now I am sitting there and thinking about which format to use as the output format. I will need a good master that I can use with Sorenson Squeeze to produce different formats and compressions for the Web.

I assume I should use Microsoft AVI as the container but which codec(I have the Permiere standard codecs and DIVX 6) should I use. Or do I have to get a special codec for the intermediate Files. Can't go uncompressed, though :-)

2. should I stay with anamorphic pictures and 1440x1080 or switch during output to 1920x1080 square pixels.... As I guess square pixels are more common... or do I loose quality there?

Thanks a lot.

Frank

Daniel Nunez · March 28th, 2006, 09:46 PM

I recently recorded my grandparents' 50th Anniversary. So since I don't get to do much personal color correction work I decided to take advantage of the opportunity. So here is a still for all to enjoy and pick at if you want. Give some input too! I've loaded onto my myspace. I was too lazy to put it up on the webpage... lol

http://www.myspace.com/64412665

Andrew Todd · March 28th, 2006, 10:57 PM

hey daniel... i noticed on your "myspace" that you have a "friend" named jim.. the guy giving the thumbs up. when i created my "myspace" account a few weeks ago to upload some audio that same guy was added in my friends list right as soon as the account was created.. weird... the guy must really like having lots of friends

Daniel Nunez · March 29th, 2006, 08:18 AM

His name is "Tom". He is the owner/operator of myspace. He started the craze. He is automatically added to everyone's friend list when you they sign up.

Joe Lumbroso · March 29th, 2006, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Nunez

His name is "Tom". He is the owner/operator of myspace. He started the craze. He is automatically added to everyone's friend list when you they sign up.

For the sake of factual accuracy, Tom does not own or operate MySpace (Fox does). Tom is not the founder either. I happen to know MySpace was founded by a larger more successful dot-com and designed to appear as if it were created by "Tom" and promoted via his viral marketing efforts. It should also be known that MySpace created it's initial userbase by spamming hundreds of thousands of users on usenets.

I will get off my pedestal now and go back to picking up chicks on mySpace.

Luca Coralli · February 11th, 2008, 12:57 PM

Hi!
Can you please tell me what are the best settings for the HDV export in Adobe Premiere Pro CS3? I know that I have to use Adobe Media Encoder with MPEG2, but there are a lot of settings for it. I only want the best ones.
Thank you so much for the help.

Victor Wilcox · February 11th, 2008, 05:18 PM

If you have After Effects CS3, that's the way to go.

1. Create a composition with you HD clip.
2. Create a DV clip with same lenth.
3. Drag your HD composition into the DV one.
4. Use transforation to scale to 45%.
5. Renger the DV composition to an MPG.

The "Attend the World Premiere" thread has more details.

I'm still experimenting to get the best MPG encoding settings, but AE is great for downconverting.

Luca Coralli · February 11th, 2008, 06:40 PM

Hi! Thank you very much for the reply.
Unfortunately I don't have AE.
Any other suggestions for me?

Daniel Browning · February 11th, 2008, 07:26 PM

"Best" means different things to different people. First explain what you want to do. Do you want to create a DVD? Uncompressed Master? Print to tape?

K.C. Luke · February 11th, 2008, 07:26 PM

You should look into this link :

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=62

I think some 1 had post before...

Luca Coralli · February 11th, 2008, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Browning

"Best" means different things to different people. First explain what you want to do. Do you want to create a DVD? Uncompressed Master? Print to tape?

You're right. Sorry, but I was in a hurry. Well, I would like to create a video for my hard disk. So with no size limits...
What do you think of this settings in the Premiere CS3 Media Encoder? MPEG2 with preset 1440x1080i 25 High quality.
Are they optimal for creating an HDV video on my hard disk?
Thanks for the answer.

Ervin Farkas · February 12th, 2008, 11:48 PM

That would be full HDV quality, so it should look just as good as your original footage. I have also experimented with Windows Media and it comes out wonderful but I resize in Virtualdub, and only then encode either with Windows Media Encoder or Procoder.

Luca Coralli · February 13th, 2008, 04:26 AM

Thanks for the answer. So that preset is perfect! Thank you.

I have another question: with my old great Sony DCR-VX2000 I was used to deinterlace the video when exporting it to give it a "cinema" style (you know what I mean)... Now, how can I deinterlace the HDV footage recorded with my FX1 in the Adobe Media Encoder? Do I have to use an external app, like DVFilm Maker?
Thanks for the answer. Bye!

Luca Coralli · February 15th, 2008, 12:43 PM

No solutions?

March 8th, 2006, 11:23 AM	#17
Frank Werner Tourist Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 4	HDV, Premiere Pro, Intermediate Format for Sorenson Squeeze Hi, again another newbie question. Ok I edited my first footage with Premiere Pro and now I am sitting there and thinking about which format to use as the output format. I will need a good master that I can use with Sorenson Squeeze to produce different formats and compressions for the Web. I assume I should use Microsoft AVI as the container but which codec(I have the Permiere standard codecs and DIVX 6) should I use. Or do I have to get a special codec for the intermediate Files. Can't go uncompressed, though :-) 2. should I stay with anamorphic pictures and 1440x1080 or switch during output to 1920x1080 square pixels.... As I guess square pixels are more common... or do I loose quality there? Thanks a lot. Frank

March 28th, 2006, 09:46 PM	#18
Daniel Nunez New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 16	Color Corrected Downconverted Premiere Still I recently recorded my grandparents' 50th Anniversary. So since I don't get to do much personal color correction work I decided to take advantage of the opportunity. So here is a still for all to enjoy and pick at if you want. Give some input too! I've loaded onto my myspace. I was too lazy to put it up on the webpage... lol http://www.myspace.com/64412665 __________________ www.rocksteadycreations.com "we don't capture magic... we create it"

March 28th, 2006, 10:57 PM	#19
Andrew Todd Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Saint John, CANADA Posts: 633	hey daniel... i noticed on your "myspace" that you have a "friend" named jim.. the guy giving the thumbs up. when i created my "myspace" account a few weeks ago to upload some audio that same guy was added in my friends list right as soon as the account was created.. weird... the guy must really like having lots of friends __________________ video : xl2 / letus35xl / bogen 503 photo- canon 1dmkII - bronica etrsi

March 29th, 2006, 08:18 AM	#20
Daniel Nunez New Boot Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 16	His name is "Tom". He is the owner/operator of myspace. He started the craze. He is automatically added to everyone's friend list when you they sign up. __________________ www.rocksteadycreations.com "we don't capture magic... we create it"

February 11th, 2008, 12:57 PM	#22
Luca Coralli New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 22	Premiere CS3: best setting for HDV export Hi! Can you please tell me what are the best settings for the HDV export in Adobe Premiere Pro CS3? I know that I have to use Adobe Media Encoder with MPEG2, but there are a lot of settings for it. I only want the best ones. Thank you so much for the help.

March 7th, 2006, 03:10 PM	#16
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	I have somewhat limited experience with DVFilm Maker 2.2. It seems to me that the 60i -> 24p converted files using Aspect HD codec via DVFilm exhibit some red tint and are slightly darker (comparing to normal 60i Aspect HD files as produced by Cineform's own HDLink m2t->avi utility.)

February 11th, 2008, 05:18 PM	#23
Victor Wilcox Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Iron Horse Guest Ranch, Waller County, TX Posts: 340	If you have After Effects CS3, that's the way to go. 1. Create a composition with you HD clip. 2. Create a DV clip with same lenth. 3. Drag your HD composition into the DV one. 4. Use transforation to scale to 45%. 5. Renger the DV composition to an MPG. The "Attend the World Premiere" thread has more details. I'm still experimenting to get the best MPG encoding settings, but AE is great for downconverting. __________________ Vic Wilcox, http://wilcoxvideoproductions.com/Default.aspx Sony FDR-AX100, DJI Phantom 4 Pro, GoPro Hero 8 Blk, Vegas Pro 15, DaVinci Resolve 18

February 11th, 2008, 06:40 PM	#24
Luca Coralli New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 22	Hi! Thank you very much for the reply. Unfortunately I don't have AE. Any other suggestions for me?

February 11th, 2008, 07:26 PM	#25
Daniel Browning Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 949	"Best" means different things to different people. First explain what you want to do. Do you want to create a DVD? Uncompressed Master? Print to tape?

February 11th, 2008, 07:26 PM	#26
K.C. Luke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 173	You should look into this link : http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=62 I think some 1 had post before... __________________ Edit on Adobe Creative Suite Production Premium CS5 Mac 64BIT

February 12th, 2008, 11:48 PM	#28
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	That would be full HDV quality, so it should look just as good as your original footage. I have also experimented with Windows Media and it comes out wonderful but I resize in Virtualdub, and only then encode either with Windows Media Encoder or Procoder. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

February 13th, 2008, 04:26 AM	#29
Luca Coralli New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 22	Thanks for the answer. So that preset is perfect! Thank you. I have another question: with my old great Sony DCR-VX2000 I was used to deinterlace the video when exporting it to give it a "cinema" style (you know what I mean)... Now, how can I deinterlace the HDV footage recorded with my FX1 in the Adobe Media Encoder? Do I have to use an external app, like DVFilm Maker? Thanks for the answer. Bye!

February 15th, 2008, 12:43 PM	#30
Luca Coralli New Boot Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Italy Posts: 22	No solutions?