'frames were dropped' the fault of a new DVDR? at DVinfo.net

David J. Payne · February 17th, 2006, 01:18 PM

hi,
this problem has been annoying me for a couple of hours now and I've researched a lot but cannot find the answer. My canon xl1s has worked fine on my pc through premiere however now it just will not capture. Firstly the capture window (when i change capture settings to DV1394) stayed blank as the footage was playing on my camcorder. Now I seem to be able to capture but only for a second or two. Then the 'frames captured' number remains the same as the footage continues playing back in the camcorder.
I have recently installed a new DVDRW and I have read up about some conflicts that this can cause. I tried disabling this DVDRW in device manager and then opening up the pc and unpluggng the power but neither worked. I have also re-installed premiere but I still only get the second of capture time. The hard disk I am capturing to has 40 GB spare so it cannot be this.
I am desperate to solve this problem so if anyone has any help I'd be most greatful.
David

David J. Payne · February 17th, 2006, 03:13 PM

I have just tried using Vegas, Pinacle and even windows movie maker to capture and none of these even allow me to see a preview as I'm capturing. Like in premiere, when I press stop capturing in any of these programs they all say nothing has been captured so its clearly a PC based problem. Is there anything that can be done short of a full format?
thanks
David

Miguel Lombana · February 17th, 2006, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Payne

hi,
this problem has been annoying me for a couple of hours now and I've researched a lot but cannot find the answer. My canon xl1s has worked fine on my pc through premiere however now it just will not capture. Firstly the capture window (when i change capture settings to DV1394) stayed blank as the footage was playing on my camcorder. Now I seem to be able to capture but only for a second or two. Then the 'frames captured' number remains the same as the footage continues playing back in the camcorder.
I have recently installed a new DVDRW and I have read up about some conflicts that this can cause. I tried disabling this DVDRW in device manager and then opening up the pc and unpluggng the power but neither worked. I have also re-installed premiere but I still only get the second of capture time. The hard disk I am capturing to has 40 GB spare so it cannot be this.
I am desperate to solve this problem so if anyone has any help I'd be most greatful.
David

Premier does this to me sometimes as well, that's why I use Scenealyzer to capture, however in the past I found the booting with the equipment off and then turning it on once the machine was ready and configured to capture seems to have fixed it. All I can say is experiment with turning off and on the gear, eventually you will get it to work. Typically for me the only time this happened was when I tried to capture live video or VHS from my JVC MiniDV/VHS combo deck. Don't re-format, it's not the OS.

Paul Cuoco · February 17th, 2006, 06:59 PM

Something got screwed up on your 1394 bus. Is your DVDR 1394 or IDE? Is there anything else on your 1394 connections? ipod? Anything?

I had a similar problem and I found I was overloading the 1394 on my motherboard. The only way to fix it was to remove the other peripherals on my USB and 1394 bus until I could install a dedicated 1394 card.

You shouldn't have to reformat your whole system. Have you tried a system restore to a point before you installed the DVDR and see if you still have the problem?

David J. Payne · February 18th, 2006, 09:01 PM

i havent tried restoring but I have removed my ipod and DVD drive and still nothing. The DVDR is IDE. I'm going to try some more tomorrow but I need to get this sorted quickly! Hopefully the restore will do it.
thanks for everyones help so far

David J. Payne · February 19th, 2006, 04:05 PM

ok i have tried EVERYTHING. I have uninstalled anything 1394 related and rebooted.. nothing. I also restored to before the DVD drive was installed and still nothing. I'm still either getting nothing when I try to capture or the picture freezes after a second and no frames are captured.
please help me!

Nick Weeks · February 19th, 2006, 04:08 PM

Just a shot in the dark but have you tried new and/or updated video drivers?

David J. Payne · February 19th, 2006, 04:27 PM

do u mean graphics card drivers? I don't see how this would effect it if it was capturing fine before... I'll try this anyway. thanks.

Miguel Lombana · February 19th, 2006, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Payne

do u mean graphics card drivers? I don't see how this would effect it if it was capturing fine before... I'll try this anyway. thanks.

Good suggestion, you'd be surprized!!!

David J. Payne · February 21st, 2006, 06:44 AM

removed the old geforce drivers and installed updated ones.. still have the same problem.
Any other ideas before I format this mother?
Does anyone know if a dedicated firewire card would solve the problem as the firewire I use now is on board.
Thanks

Miguel Lombana · February 21st, 2006, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Payne

removed the old geforce drivers and installed updated ones.. still have the same problem.
Any other ideas before I format this mother?
Does anyone know if a dedicated firewire card would solve the problem as the firewire I use now is on board.
Thanks

Dave I have a Sound Blaster Augigy with 1394 onboard as well as an on board 1394 in my Dell and that's not an issue. Hate to say it but you might be at that point.

Dionyssios Chalkias · February 21st, 2006, 10:23 AM

You did try with a different cable, didn't you?

David J. Payne · February 21st, 2006, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dionyssios Chalkias

You did try with a different cable, didn't you?

surely this wouldnt be the issue if it starts capturing and freezes after one or two seconds? I will buy another cable now anyway.
Ive been told by a small hobbit man that I have a driver or an IRQ issue? particularly as this started since i installed my latest DVD drive. any views on that?it has just occured to me that when I unplugged the DVD drive I unplugged my old drive that I'd made slave instead of the new drive that I'd made master. I will try this also tonight.
headache time...

David J. Payne · February 24th, 2006, 03:15 PM

well... nothing worked so i formatted.
now I have another problem here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...081#post437081

:: on the verge of giving up for life!! ::

Patrick King · February 24th, 2006, 03:26 PM

David,

Are you aware of the Microsoft admitted problem with the 1394b performance being decreased after installation of SP2?

Here is the Knowledgebase article. I've been told to read the article carefully before deciding if their "fix" is sutiable for your system.

That's all I can help you with, so as Microsoft says..."Good Luck with that!"

February 17th, 2006, 01:18 PM	#1
David J. Payne Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southend-On-Sea, England Posts: 368	'frames were dropped' the fault of a new DVDR? hi, this problem has been annoying me for a couple of hours now and I've researched a lot but cannot find the answer. My canon xl1s has worked fine on my pc through premiere however now it just will not capture. Firstly the capture window (when i change capture settings to DV1394) stayed blank as the footage was playing on my camcorder. Now I seem to be able to capture but only for a second or two. Then the 'frames captured' number remains the same as the footage continues playing back in the camcorder. I have recently installed a new DVDRW and I have read up about some conflicts that this can cause. I tried disabling this DVDRW in device manager and then opening up the pc and unpluggng the power but neither worked. I have also re-installed premiere but I still only get the second of capture time. The hard disk I am capturing to has 40 GB spare so it cannot be this. I am desperate to solve this problem so if anyone has any help I'd be most greatful. David

February 17th, 2006, 06:59 PM	#4
Paul Cuoco Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 93	Something got screwed up on your 1394 bus. Is your DVDR 1394 or IDE? Is there anything else on your 1394 connections? ipod? Anything? I had a similar problem and I found I was overloading the 1394 on my motherboard. The only way to fix it was to remove the other peripherals on my USB and 1394 bus until I could install a dedicated 1394 card. You shouldn't have to reformat your whole system. Have you tried a system restore to a point before you installed the DVDR and see if you still have the problem? __________________ To live a creative life, we must first lose our fear of being wrong. - Joseph Chilton Pearce

February 24th, 2006, 03:26 PM	#15
Patrick King Major Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 857	David, Are you aware of the Microsoft admitted problem with the 1394b performance being decreased after installation of SP2? Here is the Knowledgebase article. I've been told to read the article carefully before deciding if their "fix" is sutiable for your system. That's all I can help you with, so as Microsoft says..."Good Luck with that!" __________________ Fear No Weevil!

February 17th, 2006, 03:13 PM	#2
David J. Payne Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southend-On-Sea, England Posts: 368	I have just tried using Vegas, Pinacle and even windows movie maker to capture and none of these even allow me to see a preview as I'm capturing. Like in premiere, when I press stop capturing in any of these programs they all say nothing has been captured so its clearly a PC based problem. Is there anything that can be done short of a full format? thanks David

February 18th, 2006, 09:01 PM	#5
David J. Payne Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southend-On-Sea, England Posts: 368	i havent tried restoring but I have removed my ipod and DVD drive and still nothing. The DVDR is IDE. I'm going to try some more tomorrow but I need to get this sorted quickly! Hopefully the restore will do it. thanks for everyones help so far

February 19th, 2006, 04:05 PM	#6
David J. Payne Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southend-On-Sea, England Posts: 368	ok i have tried EVERYTHING. I have uninstalled anything 1394 related and rebooted.. nothing. I also restored to before the DVD drive was installed and still nothing. I'm still either getting nothing when I try to capture or the picture freezes after a second and no frames are captured. please help me!

February 19th, 2006, 04:08 PM	#7
Nick Weeks Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL USA Posts: 722	Just a shot in the dark but have you tried new and/or updated video drivers?

February 19th, 2006, 04:27 PM	#8
David J. Payne Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southend-On-Sea, England Posts: 368	do u mean graphics card drivers? I don't see how this would effect it if it was capturing fine before... I'll try this anyway. thanks.

February 21st, 2006, 06:44 AM	#10
David J. Payne Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southend-On-Sea, England Posts: 368	removed the old geforce drivers and installed updated ones.. still have the same problem. Any other ideas before I format this mother? Does anyone know if a dedicated firewire card would solve the problem as the firewire I use now is on board. Thanks

February 21st, 2006, 10:23 AM	#12
Dionyssios Chalkias Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 64	You did try with a different cable, didn't you?

February 24th, 2006, 03:15 PM	#14
David J. Payne Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Southend-On-Sea, England Posts: 368	well... nothing worked so i formatted. now I have another problem here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...081#post437081 :: on the verge of giving up for life!! ::