Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2006

Jon Jaschob · December 11th, 2006, 02:54 AM

Have you tried just importing the m2t file into PPro2. I use the hd100 and Aspect HD, so I capture from within PPro2. I import with FW and edit, that's it.
Also, I know there is a flip switch in Aspect HD.
Jon

John Miller · December 11th, 2006, 08:53 AM

The usual cause of upside-down images in the Windows world is that one of the pieces of software somewhere in the chain doesn't know how to handle RGB-format images - specifically RGB "Windows Device Independent Bitmaps" or DIBs.

For historical reasons, there are "upside-down" and software handling them and/or passing them on down the chain should flag them as such (usually by indicating the height as a negative number - e.g., for a 720x480 image, an RGB DIB should be handled as 720 x -480.

The usual culprit is a codec not respecting the information passed to it by the OS.

I hate to say it but Adobe are notorious for breaking these kinds of rules. I have had to often modify my own code to detect whether it is an Adobe product using it or not.

Mike Horrigan · December 11th, 2006, 09:11 AM

My frame gets squished (the opposite of the 1.2 widescreen setting) and the image is very washed out.

What am I doing wrong?

When I export using .wmv everything is fine. I really want to learn how to use H.264

Quicktime Planar RGB also seems to work fine?

Any ideas?

Are there any updates for 1.5?

Mike Horrigan · December 11th, 2006, 09:38 AM

Thanks to the forum search engine (which I should have used in the first place) I got it to work.

I exported it as interlaced and downloaded the latest version of Quicktime. The scale and image was much better... but..., I have to say that .wmv looks better when played back. The dark scenes are dark in the .wmv, not grainy like what the Quicktime version shows.

I'm using Windows Media Player 11

Any suggestions on why that might be?

Mike

Christopher Lefchik · December 11th, 2006, 10:39 AM

See this thread: H.264 Brightness / Contrast issue

Mike Horrigan · December 11th, 2006, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher Lefchik

See this thread: H.264 Brightness / Contrast issue

Well... glad to know that it isn't a problem on my end.

Thanks,

Mike

Thomas Lundberg · December 11th, 2006, 12:33 PM

Thank you, Steven. I guess then there is no way to extract one part of a captured HDV clip and store it in a file which is (nearly) an exact copy of the corresponding part of the capture file.

I like my method because I can have a quickly accessible, easily searched, on-disk archive with my footage without wasting HDD and backup space with scenes that will never be used in any project.

I will have a closer look at Cineform Aspect HD. Thanks.

/Thomas

Christopher Watson · December 11th, 2006, 12:47 PM

Good to know on both accounts, thanks guys.

Daniel Cegla · December 11th, 2006, 05:35 PM

Ok I know there are a few threads dealing with this but I didn't want to thread hijack.

I have a 70 minute video I just finished. Shot in SD. It looks great on my comp screen, but when I export through Premiere Pro and get it to DVD, it looks bit grainy and not so great.

I used DVD encore, and I told it to build DVD. There was not an option on that screen to select how to compress it, so I assumed it set it automatically at the highest quality it could fit on a disc (I am using single layer discs). I checked the bitrate afterwards and it was between 7-10.

Yet I'm not satisfied with the image quality. Actually, when I used to work with Ulead tools, the DVD workshop gave me better quality.

I've heard some talk of using a better compressor etc. I'd really like to achieve maximum image quality on this disc.

Any tips on what I can do (preferrably for FREE, and before tomorrow evening so I can have the disc built Wed morning) to improve image quality? Whether it just be messing with the options in Encore, or using a different mpeg compressor....

please help! thanks!

Miguel Lombana · December 11th, 2006, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Cegla

Ok I know there are a few threads dealing with this but I didn't want to thread hijack.

I have a 70 minute video I just finished. Shot in SD. It looks great on my comp screen, but when I export through Premiere Pro and get it to DVD, it looks bit grainy and not so great.

I used DVD encore, and I told it to build DVD. There was not an option on that screen to select how to compress it, so I assumed it set it automatically at the highest quality it could fit on a disc (I am using single layer discs). I checked the bitrate afterwards and it was between 7-10.

Yet I'm not satisfied with the image quality. Actually, when I used to work with Ulead tools, the DVD workshop gave me better quality.

I've heard some talk of using a better compressor etc. I'd really like to achieve maximum image quality on this disc.

Any tips on what I can do (preferrably for FREE, and before tomorrow evening so I can have the disc built Wed morning) to improve image quality? Whether it just be messing with the options in Encore, or using a different mpeg compressor....

please help! thanks!

Not free but cheap, output AVI and MPG2 it via TMPGenc then burn it .. you'll be quite pleased.

Daniel Cegla · December 11th, 2006, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miguel Lombana

Not free but cheap, output AVI and MPG2 it via TMPGenc then burn it .. you'll be quite pleased.

I will look into that... anyone else have any suggestions as well?

Question: in DVD encore, will I be able to select the compression engine to use as TMPGenc instead of Mainconcepts encoder? Or will I have to launch this program?

Michael Sweeney · December 12th, 2006, 12:58 AM

okay i will start off with how i have things set up. i have my dv camera connected to my computer through firewire. then i have a RCA cable(audio video analog) connected from my camera to a tv.

my problem is, the tv is out of sync with the computer when doing playback in adobe premiere. how can i fix this or can i? is there a different way to set it up. my audio is also out of sync.

thanks,
mike

Harm Millaard · December 12th, 2006, 03:52 AM

You could also try CinemaCraft Basic encoder for encoding from Premiere Pro, using a bitrate calculator to find optimal settings.
http://dvd-hq.info/Calculator.html?P...f57#Calculator

Bart Walczak · December 12th, 2006, 04:20 AM

You could just use EDL...

Gary Gonsalves · December 12th, 2006, 06:05 AM

Michael,

I once encountered a similar problem then realized what an idiot I was for not figuring it out right away. During capture I encountered a similar problem. The audio had a 1 second delay difference from my computer monitor and my broadcast monitor. I corrected the problem by going up to the menu bar and choosing playback options. If I remember right you have to set the playback to either one or the other to avoid the delay.

I am heading in to the office and I will tell you where it is located in PP2.

December 11th, 2006, 09:11 AM	#648
Mike Horrigan Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ottawa Canada Posts: 755	Exporting with PPro 1.5 and Quicktime H.264 My frame gets squished (the opposite of the 1.2 widescreen setting) and the image is very washed out. What am I doing wrong? When I export using .wmv everything is fine. I really want to learn how to use H.264 Quicktime Planar RGB also seems to work fine? Any ideas? Are there any updates for 1.5? __________________ My short films... The Interview & Calls From The Führerbunker

December 11th, 2006, 09:38 AM	#649
Mike Horrigan Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ottawa Canada Posts: 755	Got it to work... Thanks to the forum search engine (which I should have used in the first place) I got it to work. I exported it as interlaced and downloaded the latest version of Quicktime. The scale and image was much better... but..., I have to say that .wmv looks better when played back. The dark scenes are dark in the .wmv, not grainy like what the Quicktime version shows. I'm using Windows Media Player 11 Any suggestions on why that might be? Mike __________________ My short films... The Interview & Calls From The Führerbunker

December 11th, 2006, 05:35 PM	#654
Daniel Cegla Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: N/A Posts: 57	DVD output quality Ok I know there are a few threads dealing with this but I didn't want to thread hijack. I have a 70 minute video I just finished. Shot in SD. It looks great on my comp screen, but when I export through Premiere Pro and get it to DVD, it looks bit grainy and not so great. I used DVD encore, and I told it to build DVD. There was not an option on that screen to select how to compress it, so I assumed it set it automatically at the highest quality it could fit on a disc (I am using single layer discs). I checked the bitrate afterwards and it was between 7-10. Yet I'm not satisfied with the image quality. Actually, when I used to work with Ulead tools, the DVD workshop gave me better quality. I've heard some talk of using a better compressor etc. I'd really like to achieve maximum image quality on this disc. Any tips on what I can do (preferrably for FREE, and before tomorrow evening so I can have the disc built Wed morning) to improve image quality? Whether it just be messing with the options in Encore, or using a different mpeg compressor.... please help! thanks!

December 12th, 2006, 12:58 AM	#657
Michael Sweeney Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 97	viewing monitor out of sync??? okay i will start off with how i have things set up. i have my dv camera connected to my computer through firewire. then i have a RCA cable(audio video analog) connected from my camera to a tv. my problem is, the tv is out of sync with the computer when doing playback in adobe premiere. how can i fix this or can i? is there a different way to set it up. my audio is also out of sync. thanks, mike

December 12th, 2006, 06:05 AM	#660
Gary Gonsalves Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 56	Michael, I once encountered a similar problem then realized what an idiot I was for not figuring it out right away. During capture I encountered a similar problem. The audio had a 1 second delay difference from my computer monitor and my broadcast monitor. I corrected the problem by going up to the menu bar and choosing playback options. If I remember right you have to set the playback to either one or the other to avoid the delay. I am heading in to the office and I will tell you where it is located in PP2. __________________ Currently using Panasonic AG AC160 Cameras. Editing with a custom built suite by http://www.videohardware.com running the latest Adobe Suite with Matrox.

December 11th, 2006, 02:54 AM	#646
Jon Jaschob Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 232	Have you tried just importing the m2t file into PPro2. I use the hd100 and Aspect HD, so I capture from within PPro2. I import with FW and edit, that's it. Also, I know there is a flip switch in Aspect HD. Jon

December 11th, 2006, 08:53 AM	#647
John Miller Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hillsborough, NC, USA Posts: 968	The usual cause of upside-down images in the Windows world is that one of the pieces of software somewhere in the chain doesn't know how to handle RGB-format images - specifically RGB "Windows Device Independent Bitmaps" or DIBs. For historical reasons, there are "upside-down" and software handling them and/or passing them on down the chain should flag them as such (usually by indicating the height as a negative number - e.g., for a 720x480 image, an RGB DIB should be handled as 720 x -480. The usual culprit is a codec not respecting the information passed to it by the OS. I hate to say it but Adobe are notorious for breaking these kinds of rules. I have had to often modify my own code to detect whether it is an Adobe product using it or not.

December 11th, 2006, 10:39 AM	#650
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	See this thread: H.264 Brightness / Contrast issue

December 11th, 2006, 12:33 PM	#652
Thomas Lundberg New Boot Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Posts: 11	Thank you, Steven. I guess then there is no way to extract one part of a captured HDV clip and store it in a file which is (nearly) an exact copy of the corresponding part of the capture file. I like my method because I can have a quickly accessible, easily searched, on-disk archive with my footage without wasting HDD and backup space with scenes that will never be used in any project. I will have a closer look at Cineform Aspect HD. Thanks. /Thomas

December 11th, 2006, 12:47 PM	#653
Christopher Watson New Boot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 12	Good to know on both accounts, thanks guys.

December 12th, 2006, 03:52 AM	#658
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	You could also try CinemaCraft Basic encoder for encoding from Premiere Pro, using a bitrate calculator to find optimal settings. http://dvd-hq.info/Calculator.html?P...f57#Calculator

December 12th, 2006, 04:20 AM	#659
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	You could just use EDL...