Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2006

Adam Grunseth · July 6th, 2006, 12:51 PM

I have been working on a length project and it was near completion. However, just recently I moved to a new city and upon hooking up my editing system I realized one of my hard drives had died. Luckily this hard drive did not have any of my original media on it. However, it did have all of my rendered media. Once I fixed my system recovering the video wasn't really a problem, all I had to do was re-render it. However, I did the final audio mix in Audition, and those wave files produced by audition are gone. So now I have a projected with all the video there, but no audio.

Is there anyway I can have adobe just restore the orignal raw audio associated with the video clip? For example can I take Clip1 on the video track and have adobe automatically put the audio from clip one down on the audio track? The only other way I can see to fix it is to go through my timeline clip by clip, record the in and out timecodes on the video, open up the raw clip, set the same in and out, then drop just the audio down on the timeline. Doing this for every single edit in my project though could get very tedious.

Flemming Lovenhardt · July 7th, 2006, 03:08 AM

I have heard that there are problems with Premiere Pro 2.0 combined with Cineform Aspect HD and MPEG export/import – Can any confirm this?

I was told that you should have install Premiere Pro 1.5 at the same time to make it work.
Kind regards
Flemming Loevenhardt

Graham Hickling · July 7th, 2006, 09:35 AM

The problem is a licencing issue, rather than a software bug.

http://supportcenteronline.com/ics/s...asp?deptID=614

Pete Bauer · July 7th, 2006, 11:19 AM

Yup, and while I can't be 100% sure it is due to AspectHD, I have also found that in a system with PPro 2.0 but not 1.5, Adobe Media Encoder cannot export QT7 files either. Worse, even if you use the new Adobe presets and capture/edit in MPG without making use of Cineform technology, I still am unable to export to DVD, other standard MPEG, or QT (v7.1 free version installed). I haven't done RealPlayer exports, so can't speak to that.

Many months ago, Cineform posted that they expected to have the PPro 2.0 export issue resolved by the time AspectHD 4.0 came out. Obviously, that didn't happen...David T. and David N., any updated ETA on this problem?

Ruben Mendez · July 7th, 2006, 03:49 PM

I will have someone sweeten and master my sound (Acid , Soundforge) for me on a short, which I edited on 1.5. I dont know much about cleaning and know nothing about mastering sound, so my question is. How can I save the audio so that they are seperate tracks that are synced? I exported 6min of footage (with 5 audio tracks) and burned them as a audio cd. When my friend brought it into soundforge it was as one track. I am trying to avoid having to give him the tracks individualy and then having to resync them in premiere after he is done. Is this possible, to give him the entire 43 min (with up to 5 audio tracks synced up), so I can just drop it back on the time line when it is done?

Bart Walczak · July 7th, 2006, 05:50 PM

I'm affraid there is no simple way to do it, but there is a keyboard shortcut that might help you - when you have a video track selected and your timeline window is active, press T to open in the source monitor the clip which is under you cursor. It will open at the exact place that your cursor is positioned at, so it might help you establish the inpoint and outpoint.

Plus you can adjust the length of audio manually on the timeline using the edit tool, so you don't need to be very careful about the outpoints, just turn your snapping on (S key).

Hope this helps.

Best regards
Bart Walczak

Ron Evans · July 7th, 2006, 06:00 PM

Do you have the Audition project? What were the source files for Audition and are they still around? let Audition re-render the output just like Premiere did?
Ron Evans

Matt Vanecek · July 10th, 2006, 08:29 AM

I have a project, and recently had to redo some of my hard drives. This resulted in the project being on a different drive letter. The project has some mono audio generated via "Breakout to Mono", so there aren't any actual files backing those up, except the original stereo. Everything else has relinked fine, but the mono-clips don't. Is there a way to get "Breakout to Mono" clips to relink? There are some cuts that will be quite a pain to recreate if I cannot relink...

Thanks,
Matt

Bill Hamell · July 11th, 2006, 10:33 AM

I am trying to sync up audio and video clips in PP 1.5.
With the mouse it is hit and miss if I get it correct.
Is there a way to select a clip (Audio or Video) and bump it ahead or back one frame at a time?

Thank you,
Bill

Bill Hamell · July 11th, 2006, 11:07 AM

Found it, I could not find it in the help file so I started playing with the keys.
Alt-Left or Right arrow bumps the clip one frame in either direction.

Bill

Kevin Janisch · July 11th, 2006, 01:16 PM

Try breaking out just one of the original stereo audio clips as a test and see if it automatically relinks. If not, then it's putting the mono clips in a different location on your drive. Try to manually link the clip on startup (or right clicking the unlinked mono file) when the callout appears, find whereever PrPro put the mono clips.

Vedran Rupic · July 13th, 2006, 05:21 PM

I have tried to set the comp but I can't get it to be 16:9
I have tried all the diffrent aspect ratios there is to choose from for pal and widescreen (1.42, widescreen, squarepix)
and the thing is, not even the window looks 16:9, still looks 4:3,
in premiere, the footage looked 16:9 as i used a widescreen project.
when i try to set a manual comp, in order for it to be 16:9 i set it to 1024x576 and then my footage snaps in correctly...I dont even have that resolution...
what is wrong, why cannot i get a widescreen with SD resolution comp...

It is very frustrating and i have tried everyting that I've come across in old threads...any advice is welcome.

David Walding · July 13th, 2006, 07:33 PM

Can it be done thru firewire (one capture)?

Joel Davis · July 13th, 2006, 08:11 PM

I have Premiere pro but this is how I think you could do it,

Have your workbar over the entire 43 minutes then export audio for each of the five tracks seperately, you should be able to do this by muting out four of the tracks (click icon in timeline) and exporting one at a time as a wave file (file/export/wavefile?), hopefully premiere will just export the audio track which isn't muted.

As long as your friend doesn't change each wave files length you should be able to import them all back into premiere when he's finished.

sorry I don't know all the technical names for premiere.

Joel.

Henry Cho · July 13th, 2006, 08:14 PM

set up your comp as follows:

width x height: 720 x 480
pixel aspect ration: d1/dv ntsc widescreen (1.2)
frame rate: 23.976 (for 24p)

or simply drag your footage from the project bin to the "create a new composition" icon on the very bottom of the project bin. this will create a new composition with settings that match the footage.

in the preview window, make sure the "toggle pixel aspect ratio correction" is pressed.

July 6th, 2006, 12:51 PM	#256
Adam Grunseth Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 393	How do I do this with the Audio? I have been working on a length project and it was near completion. However, just recently I moved to a new city and upon hooking up my editing system I realized one of my hard drives had died. Luckily this hard drive did not have any of my original media on it. However, it did have all of my rendered media. Once I fixed my system recovering the video wasn't really a problem, all I had to do was re-render it. However, I did the final audio mix in Audition, and those wave files produced by audition are gone. So now I have a projected with all the video there, but no audio. Is there anyway I can have adobe just restore the orignal raw audio associated with the video clip? For example can I take Clip1 on the video track and have adobe automatically put the audio from clip one down on the audio track? The only other way I can see to fix it is to go through my timeline clip by clip, record the in and out timecodes on the video, open up the raw clip, set the same in and out, then drop just the audio down on the timeline. Doing this for every single edit in my project though could get very tedious.

July 7th, 2006, 03:08 AM	#257
Flemming Lovenhardt New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Copenhagen - Denmark Posts: 8	Premiere Pro 2.0 and MPEG - Problems? I have heard that there are problems with Premiere Pro 2.0 combined with Cineform Aspect HD and MPEG export/import – Can any confirm this? I was told that you should have install Premiere Pro 1.5 at the same time to make it work. Kind regards Flemming Loevenhardt

July 7th, 2006, 11:19 AM	#259
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Yup, and while I can't be 100% sure it is due to AspectHD, I have also found that in a system with PPro 2.0 but not 1.5, Adobe Media Encoder cannot export QT7 files either. Worse, even if you use the new Adobe presets and capture/edit in MPG without making use of Cineform technology, I still am unable to export to DVD, other standard MPEG, or QT (v7.1 free version installed). I haven't done RealPlayer exports, so can't speak to that. Many months ago, Cineform posted that they expected to have the PPro 2.0 export issue resolved by the time AspectHD 4.0 came out. Obviously, that didn't happen...David T. and David N., any updated ETA on this problem? __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

July 7th, 2006, 03:49 PM	#260
Ruben Mendez New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 16	sweetening, mastering sound I will have someone sweeten and master my sound (Acid , Soundforge) for me on a short, which I edited on 1.5. I dont know much about cleaning and know nothing about mastering sound, so my question is. How can I save the audio so that they are seperate tracks that are synced? I exported 6min of footage (with 5 audio tracks) and burned them as a audio cd. When my friend brought it into soundforge it was as one track. I am trying to avoid having to give him the tracks individualy and then having to resync them in premiere after he is done. Is this possible, to give him the entire 43 min (with up to 5 audio tracks synced up), so I can just drop it back on the time line when it is done?

July 10th, 2006, 08:29 AM	#263
Matt Vanecek Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 334	Relinking audio from "Breakout to Mono Clips" I have a project, and recently had to redo some of my hard drives. This resulted in the project being on a different drive letter. The project has some mono audio generated via "Breakout to Mono", so there aren't any actual files backing those up, except the original stereo. Everything else has relinked fine, but the mono-clips don't. Is there a way to get "Breakout to Mono" clips to relink? There are some cuts that will be quite a pain to recreate if I cannot relink... Thanks, Matt

July 7th, 2006, 09:35 AM	#258
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	The problem is a licencing issue, rather than a software bug. http://supportcenteronline.com/ics/s...asp?deptID=614

July 7th, 2006, 05:50 PM	#261
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	I'm affraid there is no simple way to do it, but there is a keyboard shortcut that might help you - when you have a video track selected and your timeline window is active, press T to open in the source monitor the clip which is under you cursor. It will open at the exact place that your cursor is positioned at, so it might help you establish the inpoint and outpoint. Plus you can adjust the length of audio manually on the timeline using the edit tool, so you don't need to be very careful about the outpoints, just turn your snapping on (S key). Hope this helps. Best regards Bart Walczak

July 7th, 2006, 06:00 PM	#262
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	Do you have the Audition project? What were the source files for Audition and are they still around? let Audition re-render the output just like Premiere did? Ron Evans

July 11th, 2006, 10:33 AM	#264
Bill Hamell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mystic Ct. Posts: 477	Moving clips without the mouse? I am trying to sync up audio and video clips in PP 1.5. With the mouse it is hit and miss if I get it correct. Is there a way to select a clip (Audio or Video) and bump it ahead or back one frame at a time? Thank you, Bill __________________ Cinematographers Bring Shadow To Light

July 11th, 2006, 11:07 AM	#265
Bill Hamell Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mystic Ct. Posts: 477	Found it, I could not find it in the help file so I started playing with the keys. Alt-Left or Right arrow bumps the clip one frame in either direction. Bill __________________ Cinematographers Bring Shadow To Light

July 11th, 2006, 01:16 PM	#266
Kevin Janisch Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 406	Try breaking out just one of the original stereo audio clips as a test and see if it automatically relinks. If not, then it's putting the mono clips in a different location on your drive. Try to manually link the clip on startup (or right clicking the unlinked mono file) when the callout appears, find whereever PrPro put the mono clips.

July 13th, 2006, 05:21 PM	#267
Vedran Rupic Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Örebro, Sweden Posts: 71	using premiere captured footage in AE from a XL2 I have tried to set the comp but I can't get it to be 16:9 I have tried all the diffrent aspect ratios there is to choose from for pal and widescreen (1.42, widescreen, squarepix) and the thing is, not even the window looks 16:9, still looks 4:3, in premiere, the footage looked 16:9 as i used a widescreen project. when i try to set a manual comp, in order for it to be 16:9 i set it to 1024x576 and then my footage snaps in correctly...I dont even have that resolution... what is wrong, why cannot i get a widescreen with SD resolution comp... It is very frustrating and i have tried everyting that I've come across in old threads...any advice is welcome.

July 13th, 2006, 07:33 PM	#268
David Walding Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Claremore Ok Posts: 44	How about 4 Channel Capturing in Premiere Pro 2? Can it be done thru firewire (one capture)?

July 13th, 2006, 08:11 PM	#269
Joel Davis New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 19	I have Premiere pro but this is how I think you could do it, Have your workbar over the entire 43 minutes then export audio for each of the five tracks seperately, you should be able to do this by muting out four of the tracks (click icon in timeline) and exporting one at a time as a wave file (file/export/wavefile?), hopefully premiere will just export the audio track which isn't muted. As long as your friend doesn't change each wave files length you should be able to import them all back into premiere when he's finished. sorry I don't know all the technical names for premiere. Joel.

July 13th, 2006, 08:14 PM	#270
Henry Cho Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 516	set up your comp as follows: width x height: 720 x 480 pixel aspect ration: d1/dv ntsc widescreen (1.2) frame rate: 23.976 (for 24p) or simply drag your footage from the project bin to the "create a new composition" icon on the very bottom of the project bin. this will create a new composition with settings that match the footage. in the preview window, make sure the "toggle pixel aspect ratio correction" is pressed.