Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2006

[David J. Payne]

Hi, I am after getting a Panasonic DVX100 as it does a 25p shooting mode (pal version). I think i have read somewhere it is possible to convert the footage I have shot on my canon xl1s to 25fps in premiere.. is this right.
Assuming it is I was wondering if this 25fps would still be interlaced and if there is anyway to make it progressive and would this give it exactly the same effect as would be achieved by shooting in 25p mode on the panasonic dvx100??

[Clint Grant]

Hey everyone,

I am very close to purchasing Adobe Premiere Pro 2, and I just reallzed something. On the adobe website, it gives a list of DV cameras the software is compatible with. The canon XL2 is on the list, but the Canon Xl1s (or XL1) is not. When I found a link to a list of compatible cameras for Pro 1.5, Canon XL1s was on the list.

Does this mean that the Canon XL1s is NOT compatible with Premiere Pro 2? I already tried emailing Adobe, but have not recieved a response after four days. Thank you very much for your help,

~Clint Grant~

[Jesper Johansen]

I may have made a major blunder. Recorded 8 tapes with a LOT of small clips on my XL1. But forgot to set date/time on camera... I had hoped PPro 1.5 could autodetect the clips individually, so I could edit it all together, but I get this error:

"Date/time not recorded and is required for scene detection."

On p54 in my manual for the XL1, I get the clear impression, that the code is recorded nevertheless (really doesnt matter if it says 12.34.13 or 00.00.00). Anyone have a workaround for this?

[Jesper Johansen]

I have the XL1 and have no problems with PPro whatsoever... not the s-version though, but in my PPro 1.5 the XL1S is in the device-controls and I dont think they have removed it for PPro 2...

[Kevin Drysdale]

Hey All,

I have shot some stuff with an Xl-H1 in 24f mode, and i'm now capturing it in in premiere 2.0 with their new HDV presets for the canon xl-h1 which were released on June 26. I'm not using an intermediate codec like cineform, just adobe's default HDV capture.

The video files are showing up as mpegs, but no other program other than premiere can open them up, not even After Effects. What's with that?

Does premiere capture the file in a format that can only be read by Premiere? If so what do I do when I need to comp in some CG in After Effects? Do I export those clips that need the CG added as some other file?

If so, what type of file would be the best to use, .MOV? .Avi?, something else?

Thanks,

-Kevin

[John Miller]

Without setting the date/time on the camcorder, it cannot embed the information into the DV data. It will record the timecode, though.

Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do other than go through the captured files and manually cut them at the right points.

Scene detection simply works by looking for discontinuities in the date/time.

It is possible to detect scenes based on the content of each frame but I don't know how good current programs are at that nor if your footage would work well that way. A few years ago, I developed a program to work with EditDV (R.I.P. - a great program) that detected scenes based on image content. Though I still have the original code (called Rough Cut) , it was based around Quicktime since that's what EditDV used.

[Graham Hickling]

Scenalyzer may be a solution for you, since it has image-change as one of its options for scene detection.

http://www.scenalyzer.com/main.html

Quote: "It splits the scenes based on the recording-time embedded in the DV-streams, or based on optical content."

[Clint Grant]

Thanks for letting me know, it's a bit reassuring.

~Clint Grant~

[Nick Posen]

Hi, i have premiere pro 2.0 and when i apply the screen key for example:

layer 1: picnic scene
layer 2: smoke

when i apply the screen key to layer two, it works great, but when i do anything to the layer 2 or 1 the screen key will just stop working, and i have to undo what ever i changed. its really weird. in after effects i never have any problems, but i dont have ae available right now. so please help me thanks -Nick

[Bill Hamell]

What settings are you using to set-up new projects for widescreen format?
Are you using 720 x 480 or 960 x 480 as Canon says is the native format size or something else?

Then when you are all done and you export what settings are you using?
.9, widescreen 1.2, another?

I am having trouble getting my 16:9 widescreen video to look correct.
So I must be doing some thing wrong and need some guidance.

Thank you,
Bill

[Jean-Francois Robichaud]

The way PPRO applies the screen key is kinda bad. In the effects window, make sure the screen key appears AFTER any other effects. But some effects just don't play nice with the screen key. Opacity changes and video transitions also cancel the effects of the screen key. You might want to use a nested composition to add effects to your top layer.

[Jon Pavli]

I am trying to have a piece of video playing over another piece of video (picture inside of another picture). The full size video is fine; it the smaller picture with the problems. My problem is that I have black lines on both sides of the small picture. Anyone know what is going on and how to fix this problem?

I am using Priemere Pro (1.0) and have captured the video from a Canon XL1 camera (minDV tape).

Cheers!

[Barry Oppenheim]

Is the small video 4:3 and the project 16:9? If so you could right click on the small video timeline and change the aspect ratio by clicking on Interpret Footage.

You could also the crop video effect on the small video timeline to crop out the black space.

Barry

[Ed Smith]

Hi Jon,

Its probably the blanking you are seeing.

Video cameras etc don't record all pixels In the video frame. This is normally not noticed when viewed on a Tv monitor - being it is outside the safe margin area. However when the video 'frame' is made smaller you will notice the blanking.

As mentioned by Barry, simply find the crop tool in the video effects bin and apply to the video.

Thanks,

[Jon Pavli]

Thanks for info and suggestions.

I tried the 'Crop' settings and it took care of the problem.
You guys are great!

Cheers, Jon