Which Graphics card? at DVinfo.net

Arve Hansen · January 14th, 2014, 05:02 PM

I have a Radeon 4850 card. But it have not OpenCL in premiere PRO. So I need a new one. What Is best of Cuda or Open CL best?

Which of these would you pick.?Is there a big different in performance?

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 2GB

KFA2 GeForce GTX 660 Ti EX OC HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 3GB

Asus GTX660 Ti 3GB PCI-E OC GTX660 TI-DC2OC-3GD5
Gainward GeForce GTX 760 HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 2GB

Randall Leong · January 14th, 2014, 05:50 PM

There are a few questions that you need to answer before we can give you a definitive answer:

1) What is your workflow (source material, source resolution, output format, output resolution)?

2) Which hardware do you have in your PC?

If you have a six-year-old dual-core CPU in your main PC, then I cannot recommend any of the GPUs that you mentioned for that PC since they are all overkill for that old CPU. Same thing if you have an AMD CPU: They have incomplete or poorly implemented SSE 4.x support.

On the other hand, if your workflow involves greater-than-2K video resolution using complex codecs, only the GTX 760 (of those listed) comes anywhere close to handling such material comfortably. However, you will need a very powerful, new- or current-model CPU and motherboard in order to balance out the performance; otherwise, the CPU and/or system RAM might become the bottleneck.

Arve Hansen · January 15th, 2014, 02:20 AM

I have Intel i7-920 with 12GB DDR3 ram. 2X WD Black 2TB in Raid0 and 2X WD Red 3TB in Raid0
Windows 7 64 bit on a SSD 120GB. Mainboard gigabyte ex58-ud5.

I use Canon 5DmkIII 1080P and Gopro Hero 3+ Black Edition. Will output at best quality. (H264 1080P)

Hope this helps.

Harm Millaard · January 15th, 2014, 05:03 AM

Arve,

The i7-920 is an older quad core @ 2.67 GHz and you have only 12 GB RAM.

If you had only the 5DmkIII, the GTX 660 with 2 GB VRAM would be more than enough. But you also mention the GoPro Hero 3+. What resolution and framerate will you use? Are you on CS6 and do you use Cineform as an intermediate, or are you on the latest CC?

Do you have plans to upgrade your PC in the foreseeable future to an i7 hexa core and increasing memory to 24 GB on your current system or 32+ GB on a new system?

Arve Hansen · January 15th, 2014, 06:06 AM

Hello.

I use Premiere CC, Photoshop CC and Lightroom 5.
Gopro Hero 3+ I have used 1080P Wide and 48 frame (PAL) and 720P 100 frame for slow motion.

Will a CUDA card give me some benefits? I now use a older card without openCL or Cuda.

Maybe next year I will get a new PC and then i would buy a new graphics card. Therefore, I think buying a cheaper which might give me a little better performance than my four years old Radeon 4850.
Or maybe use a little more Money and buy a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 Windforce 3X Rev2 HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 2GB and use it in a new PC next year? But maybe GTX 760 is not good enough for a i7 hexa core and 32GB memory?

I do most photos and the PC is fast in Lightroom 5.

Photoshop CC, Can it handle CUDA or only OPENCL? If only OPENCL I have to use a Radeon card than ??

Randall Leong · January 15th, 2014, 01:45 PM

Arve,

To reply to the question of OpenCL:

Photoshop CC supports OpenCL but not CUDA. However, OpenCL is not limited to AMD Radeon/Fire GPUs. NVIDIA GeForce/Quadro GPUs and some of Intel's newest IGPs also support OpenCL. It's that the Windows version of Premiere CC has disabled OpenCL GPU acceleration support in favor of CUDA with an NVIDIA GPU installed in your PC.

January 14th, 2014, 05:02 PM	#1
Arve Hansen Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 49	Which Graphics card? I have a Radeon 4850 card. But it have not OpenCL in premiere PRO. So I need a new one. What Is best of Cuda or Open CL best? Which of these would you pick.?Is there a big different in performance? Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 OC HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 2GB KFA2 GeForce GTX 660 Ti EX OC HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 3GB Asus GTX660 Ti 3GB PCI-E OC GTX660 TI-DC2OC-3GD5 Gainward GeForce GTX 760 HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 2GB __________________ Canon 5DmkIII, Canon 7D, EF85 1.8, EF 100 2.8LIS macro, EF135 2.0, EF 17-40 4L, EF 24-105 4L, EF 70-200 2.8LIS II, EF 70-200 4LIS, Tamron 24-70 2.8, Sigma 50 1.4, Sigma Art 35 1.4

January 14th, 2014, 05:50 PM	#2
Randall Leong Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Melrose Park, Illinois, USA Posts: 936	Re: Which Graphics card? There are a few questions that you need to answer before we can give you a definitive answer: 1) What is your workflow (source material, source resolution, output format, output resolution)? 2) Which hardware do you have in your PC? If you have a six-year-old dual-core CPU in your main PC, then I cannot recommend any of the GPUs that you mentioned for that PC since they are all overkill for that old CPU. Same thing if you have an AMD CPU: They have incomplete or poorly implemented SSE 4.x support. On the other hand, if your workflow involves greater-than-2K video resolution using complex codecs, only the GTX 760 (of those listed) comes anywhere close to handling such material comfortably. However, you will need a very powerful, new- or current-model CPU and motherboard in order to balance out the performance; otherwise, the CPU and/or system RAM might become the bottleneck.

January 15th, 2014, 02:20 AM	#3
Arve Hansen Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 49	Re: Which Graphics card? I have Intel i7-920 with 12GB DDR3 ram. 2X WD Black 2TB in Raid0 and 2X WD Red 3TB in Raid0 Windows 7 64 bit on a SSD 120GB. Mainboard gigabyte ex58-ud5. I use Canon 5DmkIII 1080P and Gopro Hero 3+ Black Edition. Will output at best quality. (H264 1080P) Hope this helps. __________________ Canon 5DmkIII, Canon 7D, EF85 1.8, EF 100 2.8LIS macro, EF135 2.0, EF 17-40 4L, EF 24-105 4L, EF 70-200 2.8LIS II, EF 70-200 4LIS, Tamron 24-70 2.8, Sigma 50 1.4, Sigma Art 35 1.4

January 15th, 2014, 05:03 AM	#4
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	Re: Which Graphics card? Arve, The i7-920 is an older quad core @ 2.67 GHz and you have only 12 GB RAM. If you had only the 5DmkIII, the GTX 660 with 2 GB VRAM would be more than enough. But you also mention the GoPro Hero 3+. What resolution and framerate will you use? Are you on CS6 and do you use Cineform as an intermediate, or are you on the latest CC? Do you have plans to upgrade your PC in the foreseeable future to an i7 hexa core and increasing memory to 24 GB on your current system or 32+ GB on a new system?

January 15th, 2014, 06:06 AM	#5
Arve Hansen Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 49	Re: Which Graphics card? Hello. I use Premiere CC, Photoshop CC and Lightroom 5. Gopro Hero 3+ I have used 1080P Wide and 48 frame (PAL) and 720P 100 frame for slow motion. Will a CUDA card give me some benefits? I now use a older card without openCL or Cuda. Maybe next year I will get a new PC and then i would buy a new graphics card. Therefore, I think buying a cheaper which might give me a little better performance than my four years old Radeon 4850. Or maybe use a little more Money and buy a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 Windforce 3X Rev2 HDMI DisplayPort Dual-DVI 2GB and use it in a new PC next year? But maybe GTX 760 is not good enough for a i7 hexa core and 32GB memory? I do most photos and the PC is fast in Lightroom 5. Photoshop CC, Can it handle CUDA or only OPENCL? If only OPENCL I have to use a Radeon card than ?? __________________ Canon 5DmkIII, Canon 7D, EF85 1.8, EF 100 2.8LIS macro, EF135 2.0, EF 17-40 4L, EF 24-105 4L, EF 70-200 2.8LIS II, EF 70-200 4LIS, Tamron 24-70 2.8, Sigma 50 1.4, Sigma Art 35 1.4 Last edited by Arve Hansen; January 15th, 2014 at 12:12 PM.

January 15th, 2014, 01:45 PM	#6
Randall Leong Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Melrose Park, Illinois, USA Posts: 936	Re: Which Graphics card? Arve, To reply to the question of OpenCL: Photoshop CC supports OpenCL but not CUDA. However, OpenCL is not limited to AMD Radeon/Fire GPUs. NVIDIA GeForce/Quadro GPUs and some of Intel's newest IGPs also support OpenCL. It's that the Windows version of Premiere CC has disabled OpenCL GPU acceleration support in favor of CUDA with an NVIDIA GPU installed in your PC.