Nesting Sequences in Adobe Premiere, Quality issue? at DVinfo.net

Marcello Mazzilli · October 14th, 2012, 04:35 AM

Hi,
I created a Sequence in XDCAM EX (by mistake) instead than XDCAM 422....
I then worked with this sequenze, nesting it in another, cutting, editing, then nesting the second into another etc.... Up to 4 levels.... After I realised I had the settings wrong (I want full 1920 not 1440)... What is the easiest and fastest way to go back?

1) If I nest all in a 1920 sequence will Premiere consider for the final rendering quality my last (highest) sequence (has After Effects does for compositions) or will I still get a 1440 render quality because all the nested sequences are 1440 even if the rendered one is 1920 ?

2) Is there a way to change the settings of a sequence (choosing SETTINGS will not let me change them)

3) If 1 and 2 are not possible... what do you suggest? Re-editing the second to lowest sequence (the one that contains all the cuts) is not possible.. would take ages to re-edit again copying the first edit

Any other ideas?

Scott Elkins · October 14th, 2012, 05:55 PM

I think this might work. Try this, Create a sequence with the correct settings. Copy the old sequence to the new sequence. Select each clip and use “ Replace with clip” from bin. Assuming you have the clips in the bin. This might get tiresome if you have a lot of clips.

Marcello Mazzilli · October 15th, 2012, 12:38 AM

That is the point.. Is a 1h tv show eith cuts every 4-5 seconds.
And the cuts are on a multicamera track.

I assume if you offered a solution for 3 you think that 1 and 2 are not true... There is a quality loss

Kenyon Gerbrandt · October 15th, 2012, 07:42 AM

Would it be possible to export the XML of the original cuts then reimport to a new sequence with the correct settings?

Bruce Watson · October 15th, 2012, 07:54 AM

I'm certainly not an expert. I'm pretty sure you can't change the basic settings of a sequence after it has been created. But you can make a new sequence with the "correct" settings. Then, copy and paste from your old sequence to your new sequence. I've done this and know it works.

The question is, can you do it the second time (for the first level down nested sequence) and have it maintain it's ties to the top level sequence? IDK. What if you did something like this -- make the new second level sequence, then nest from the new top level sequence into this new second level sequence. Then, copy from the old second level sequence and paste over the top of the new second level sequence. This would perhaps establish the nesting between the top level and second level sequences, while maintaining the edits from the old second level sequence. Again, IDK. The only way to find out is to do some testing.

Also, ask on the Adobe Premiere Pro forums. There are some serious experts there.

Marcello Mazzilli · October 15th, 2012, 08:41 AM

Sure... creating a new sequence and copying works.. but you can only copy from what exists allready.. that is the old lowres sequenze. I've tried to think in various ways but I don't seem to find a way of avoiding doing copy-re-editing

October 14th, 2012, 04:35 AM	#1
Marcello Mazzilli Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ITALIA Posts: 416	Nesting Sequences in Adobe Premiere, Quality issue? Hi, I created a Sequence in XDCAM EX (by mistake) instead than XDCAM 422.... I then worked with this sequenze, nesting it in another, cutting, editing, then nesting the second into another etc.... Up to 4 levels.... After I realised I had the settings wrong (I want full 1920 not 1440)... What is the easiest and fastest way to go back? 1) If I nest all in a 1920 sequence will Premiere consider for the final rendering quality my last (highest) sequence (has After Effects does for compositions) or will I still get a 1440 render quality because all the nested sequences are 1440 even if the rendered one is 1920 ? 2) Is there a way to change the settings of a sequence (choosing SETTINGS will not let me change them) 3) If 1 and 2 are not possible... what do you suggest? Re-editing the second to lowest sequence (the one that contains all the cuts) is not possible.. would take ages to re-edit again copying the first edit Any other ideas?

October 14th, 2012, 05:55 PM	#2
Scott Elkins New Boot Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 15	Re: Nesting Sequences in Adobe Premiere, Quality issue? I think this might work. Try this, Create a sequence with the correct settings. Copy the old sequence to the new sequence. Select each clip and use “ Replace with clip” from bin. Assuming you have the clips in the bin. This might get tiresome if you have a lot of clips.

October 15th, 2012, 12:38 AM	#3
Marcello Mazzilli Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ITALIA Posts: 416	Re: Nesting Sequences in Adobe Premiere, Quality issue? That is the point.. Is a 1h tv show eith cuts every 4-5 seconds. And the cuts are on a multicamera track. I assume if you offered a solution for 3 you think that 1 and 2 are not true... There is a quality loss

October 15th, 2012, 07:42 AM	#4
Kenyon Gerbrandt New Boot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 22	Re: Nesting Sequences in Adobe Premiere, Quality issue? Would it be possible to export the XML of the original cuts then reimport to a new sequence with the correct settings?

October 15th, 2012, 07:54 AM	#5
Bruce Watson Major Player Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Raleigh, NC, USA Posts: 710	Re: Nesting Sequences in Adobe Premiere, Quality issue? I'm certainly not an expert. I'm pretty sure you can't change the basic settings of a sequence after it has been created. But you can make a new sequence with the "correct" settings. Then, copy and paste from your old sequence to your new sequence. I've done this and know it works. The question is, can you do it the second time (for the first level down nested sequence) and have it maintain it's ties to the top level sequence? IDK. What if you did something like this -- make the new second level sequence, then nest from the new top level sequence into this new second level sequence. Then, copy from the old second level sequence and paste over the top of the new second level sequence. This would perhaps establish the nesting between the top level and second level sequences, while maintaining the edits from the old second level sequence. Again, IDK. The only way to find out is to do some testing. Also, ask on the Adobe Premiere Pro forums. There are some serious experts there.

October 15th, 2012, 08:41 AM	#6
Marcello Mazzilli Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: ITALIA Posts: 416	Re: Nesting Sequences in Adobe Premiere, Quality issue? Sure... creating a new sequence and copying works.. but you can only copy from what exists allready.. that is the old lowres sequenze. I've tried to think in various ways but I don't seem to find a way of avoiding doing copy-re-editing