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Randy Johnson · April 29th, 2012, 10:45 PM

I am interested in this new adobe cloud but I have a question. I have 2 desktops and a laptop. I need it on all three although I never use more than one at a time. Do I need to buy 3 licenses? Or is it still $50 a month? all I need is Premiere/ Encore & Photoshop.

Alister Chapman · April 30th, 2012, 07:50 AM

From what I've read the licence covers 2 machines, so you would need two licences or have to keep one machine de-authorised.

Randy Johnson · April 30th, 2012, 06:21 PM

mmm... I could do that. Nice.$50 a month better than $1500

Steven Davis · April 30th, 2012, 07:11 PM

Isn't dropbox cheaper?

Pete Bauer · April 30th, 2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Davis

Isn't dropbox cheaper?

Absolutely...in the same way that a wheelbarrow is cheaper than a pickup truck. If you read up on what Adobe Cloud offers, it ain't just another Dropbox.

If you're an existing Adobe CS3 suite or later customer, the first year of Cloud is only $30/month. Not bad for Master Collection, new tablet apps, other new software like Muse and Edge and hopefully soon they'll add Lightroom, which would be a $149 upgrade on its own. Then there's the auto-synching and collaborative cloud environment, which by itself does things Dropbox doesn't.

Steven Davis · April 30th, 2012, 08:41 PM

Good point, I guess it comes down to cost/benefit. 2k in Adobe Software, it's kinda insulting that they don't at least include a year intro offer for free, especially for us Suite owners. Ofcourse, I'm a little jilted, both phone calls to Adobe support have been very unpleasant. lol

Pete Bauer · May 1st, 2012, 08:24 AM

Well, sure, "free" would be nice but after all, Adobe is a business with about 10,000 employees, so I don't think "free" is a reasonable expectation (well, except for products like Acrobat Reader). This is a major release, along with a whole new infrastructure to deliver a much-expanded set of products so I personally think the $30/month offer is a pretty great deal that would encourage folks to try Cloud.

Sorry you've had a bad experience with customer support. My only experience was very positive:
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/adobe-cr...ml#post1675504

Bart Walczak · May 2nd, 2012, 05:16 AM

$30 per month is less than you would be paying for an upgrade from CS5.5 ($360 in a year vs $399 for upgrade).

I believe it is a great offer for startups.

Ben Davies · May 3rd, 2012, 08:09 PM

Also do great deals for students! I live in the UK and I'm able to get it for £22/month ($29.99 on US adobe site).

Ed Henderson · May 4th, 2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bart Walczak

$30 per month is less than you would be paying for an upgrade from CS5.5 ($360 in a year vs $399 for upgrade).

I believe it is a great offer for startups.

The $30/month is a great deal, but it's temporary. After that, it goes to $50/mo which is $600/year. The only thing good about the deal is that you get more tools, but the problem is that adobe has a large number of tools that I don't use, and probably never will.. so, having access to a bunch of tools I don't need is not a great deal...

My take is, it's an "okay" deal.. not a great deal, not a bad deal.. and, what about the more casual users that might want to kick out an initial cost and just use it for a few years? I know people using very old versions of photoshop to do lightweight stuff.. not everyone needs the latest tools all the time.. this does not accomodate those that are not always seeking to be on the leading edge of every tool.

Pete Bauer · May 4th, 2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Henderson

...and, what about the more casual users that might want to kick out an initial cost and just use it for a few years? I know people using very old versions of photoshop to do lightweight stuff.. not everyone needs the latest tools all the time.. this does not accomodate those that are not always seeking to be on the leading edge of every tool.

I'd agree it doesn't economically accommodate those casual users; Master Collection and Cloud probably aren't the right solutions for them. Certainly, I wouldn't buy a pickup truck if what I needed was a wheelbarrow. If you just need Photoshop, well, just get Photoshop. If you're a Production Premium user and that is still the best fitting product for your needs, get a traditional upgrade of Production Premium. (Or not, if the version you already have does everything you need, but skipping versions has historically resulted in fairly small savings over time: A Spring Surprise from Adobe: CS5.5 at DVInfo.net ).

I don't use every single app in MC but do use most of them. For us MC users, we can lock in $30/mo for the next year for not only MC but the additional offerings in Cloud...$600 has been the ballpark annualized cost for MC upgrades. For us, it's an excellent offer.

Eric Olson · May 5th, 2012, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Davies

Also do great deals for students! I live in the UK and I'm able to get it for £22/month ($29.99 on US adobe site).

If the network goes down are you still able to edit using the applications locally?

Pete Bauer · May 5th, 2012, 06:01 AM

Obviously, you wouldn't have access to the Cloud if your network is down, but your local applications (PPro, etc) only need to touch your online Adobe account once a month to remain fully functional:

http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.html

(4th bullet on the FAQ page)

Bart Walczak · May 5th, 2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Henderson

The $30/month is a great deal, but it's temporary. After that, it goes to $50/mo which is $600/year. The only thing good about the deal is that you get more tools, but the problem is that adobe has a large number of tools that I don't use, and probably never will.. so, having access to a bunch of tools I don't need is not a great deal...

My take is, it's an "okay" deal.. not a great deal, not a bad deal.. and, what about the more casual users that might want to kick out an initial cost and just use it for a few years?

1. You need to factor in the lack of initial cost that you would have to cover if you bought the normal version. This cost, which in my opinion has been quite an entry barrier for many people, is mitigated. It's great if you want to start using the software and earn money immediately. Afterwards you can either buy the normal version or remain with the subscription. In my opinion this is a great offer to new users.

2. There used to be a subscription model for individual apps as well with CS5/CS5.5, and I'm not sure if it is no longer in effect.

Note, that you can still buy a normal version. You're not restricted to the subscription model.

Richard Cavell · May 6th, 2012, 12:25 AM

Honestly, I think this is a fantastic deal. Personally, I only intend to use Premiere and After Effects, but they alone are worth the deal. It's so cheap that I'll do it for my home computer so I can take my work home, and I might not even bother getting my workplace to cover the cost of doing it.

The only downsides that I can see are that you need to bookkeep your savings account to make sure you always have sufficient funds, and that you need an Internet connection. (My workplace won't allow my work computer to be connected to the Net).

There goes the only advantage that FCP X/Motion ever had over Premiere/After Effects, as far as I'm concerned (low cost of purchase).

Richard

April 29th, 2012, 10:45 PM	#1
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Adobe Cloud I am interested in this new adobe cloud but I have a question. I have 2 desktops and a laptop. I need it on all three although I never use more than one at a time. Do I need to buy 3 licenses? Or is it still $50 a month? all I need is Premiere/ Encore & Photoshop.

April 30th, 2012, 07:50 AM	#2
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	Re: Adobe Cloud From what I've read the licence covers 2 machines, so you would need two licences or have to keep one machine de-authorised. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

April 30th, 2012, 06:21 PM	#3
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Adobe Cloud mmm... I could do that. Nice.$50 a month better than $1500

April 30th, 2012, 07:11 PM	#4
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Re: Adobe Cloud Isn't dropbox cheaper? __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

April 30th, 2012, 08:41 PM	#6
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Re: Adobe Cloud Good point, I guess it comes down to cost/benefit. 2k in Adobe Software, it's kinda insulting that they don't at least include a year intro offer for free, especially for us Suite owners. Ofcourse, I'm a little jilted, both phone calls to Adobe support have been very unpleasant. lol __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

May 1st, 2012, 08:24 AM	#7
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Re: Adobe Cloud Well, sure, "free" would be nice but after all, Adobe is a business with about 10,000 employees, so I don't think "free" is a reasonable expectation (well, except for products like Acrobat Reader). This is a major release, along with a whole new infrastructure to deliver a much-expanded set of products so I personally think the $30/month offer is a pretty great deal that would encourage folks to try Cloud. Sorry you've had a bad experience with customer support. My only experience was very positive: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/adobe-cr...ml#post1675504 __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

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Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	Re: Adobe Cloud $30 per month is less than you would be paying for an upgrade from CS5.5 ($360 in a year vs $399 for upgrade). I believe it is a great offer for startups. __________________ Creative Impatience - The Solace of Simple Solutions. A few useful plugins for Adobe users, and my remarks on the tools and the craft in general.

May 3rd, 2012, 08:09 PM	#9
Ben Davies Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Birmingham, England. Posts: 61	Re: Adobe Cloud Also do great deals for students! I live in the UK and I'm able to get it for £22/month ($29.99 on US adobe site).

May 5th, 2012, 06:01 AM	#13
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Re: Adobe Cloud Obviously, you wouldn't have access to the Cloud if your network is down, but your local applications (PPro, etc) only need to touch your online Adobe account once a month to remain fully functional: http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.html (4th bullet on the FAQ page) __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

May 6th, 2012, 12:25 AM	#15
Richard Cavell Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Ipswich, Queensland, Australia Posts: 102	Re: Adobe Cloud Honestly, I think this is a fantastic deal. Personally, I only intend to use Premiere and After Effects, but they alone are worth the deal. It's so cheap that I'll do it for my home computer so I can take my work home, and I might not even bother getting my workplace to cover the cost of doing it. The only downsides that I can see are that you need to bookkeep your savings account to make sure you always have sufficient funds, and that you need an Internet connection. (My workplace won't allow my work computer to be connected to the Net). There goes the only advantage that FCP X/Motion ever had over Premiere/After Effects, as far as I'm concerned (low cost of purchase). Richard