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Sanjin Svajger · September 22nd, 2011, 03:41 AM

Hi all,

does anybody know why everything from Adobe cost less then half in US then it does in EU?
On Amazon for example the Production Premium costs 826 dollars but on EU sites of Amazon the Production Premium cost around 2.000 €. That's more than 2.500 dollars! On the Italy Amazon.it the Suite goes for 2.300€!

Anybody? Is there a reason why I shouldn't buy from the US Amazon or any other US store for that matter? Or directly from Adobe?

Thx
Br
S

Ann Bens · September 22nd, 2011, 05:45 AM

50% off is worldwide.
discount software | Adobe special offers

Erwin van Dijck · September 22nd, 2011, 05:48 AM

But only production premium, not for example the master collection.

Sanjin Svajger · September 22nd, 2011, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann Bens

50% off is worldwide.
discount software | Adobe special offers

Only if switching from Avid or Final Cut.

Amazon price doesn't say anything about switching...

Andrew Smith · September 22nd, 2011, 06:44 AM

With regular pricing, the USA Adobe store is about half what we would pay in Australia for the exact same product. I whole-heartedly recommend buying direct from the USA store.

Have the physical package delivered to a friend / forwarding company in the USA and then onwards to yourself.

Andrew

Sanjin Svajger · September 22nd, 2011, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith

Have the physical package delivered to a friend / forwarding company in the USA and then onwards to yourself.

And there won't be any problems regarding registration? I need the software to be registered to my company. And I would also like my company to buy the suite. If not I can't put it on the expense account of the firm...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Smith

With regular pricing, the USA Adobe store is about half what we would pay in Australia for the exact same product.

Yes. This is just outrageous.

Harm Millaard · September 22nd, 2011, 11:07 AM

The only problem with buying from the US for non-US residents is that foreign credit cards are automatically refused by the Adobe store. I tried to order the MC CS5.5 from the US store and my credit card was refused. I had to get a US based company charge my credit card, order the MC from Adobe US, ship it to a friend, who then shipped it overseas.

Ridiculous and indeed the price difference (at least in my case) was about 100%. I spoke to one of the Adobe people at the IBC about this practice and he told me he knew and would take it up internally.

I wonder if it is even legal to discriminate legitimate buyers based on their country of origin?

Robert Young · September 22nd, 2011, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harm Millaard

I wonder if it is even legal to discriminate legitimate buyers based on their country of origin?

Pharmacutical companies do it all of the time...

Sanjin Svajger · September 22nd, 2011, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harm Millaard

Ridiculous and indeed the price difference (at least in my case) was about 100%.

Even more then 100% price difference here! Production premium 820 dollars from Amazon and 2000€ from my local resellers!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harm Millaard

I wonder if it is even legal to discriminate legitimate buyers based on their country of origin?

Apparently it is... I don't get it. US folks have a much better life standard then we do, and get all the equipment alot cheaper. I guess that's the thing that raises the standard...

It's really hard to start or even keep going a business here. And this prices aren't helping at all...

Ann Bens · September 22nd, 2011, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanjin Svajger

Only if switching from Avid or Final Cut.

Amazon price doesn't say anything about switching...

Looks to me Amazon already put in the discount

When upgrading an Adobe product you get the same discount from Adobe.
This special offer ends october 31.

I bought a copy in the USA, registrating is not a problem.

Gregory Gesch · September 22nd, 2011, 05:09 PM

A word of warning, be aware of your own countries import and custom laws. For example in Australia anything with a value over $1,000 is liable to a GST (government sales tax) of 10% and customs duty (0% on Software when I did it). Your parcel will be held by the Customs Department. To get it released you need to fill in numerous forms, have to chase up all the relevent Customs information and code numbers for yourself, supply reciepts and cash conversion as at the time of the purchase. The customs help personnel give no support for any of this and in my case the code number was left out of their official on-line catalogue (which after many phone calls - hours of punching in numbers and being on hold - I finally begged someone to check and was told just to put in the first couple of numbers, which was then refused by the next person up the food chain, and of course you never talk to the same person twice). The other complication is that you have to register as an importer (for yourself) and also register the supplier which includes getting information from them including contact names and phone numbers of their head staff, numerous addresses etc. You also then have to verify your identity and supply relevent documents. As this is all going through a Government Department..., need I say more. Having gone through this once it would have to be a gigantic saving for me to go through it again. Here, under $1,000 you're fine, over that get ready for the frustrations and headaches.

Andrew Smith · September 22nd, 2011, 07:49 PM

In my experience the credit card was accepted, no problems.

I was able to do my video Production Premium upgrade for $800 USD instead of $1440+ AUD, and being under the $1000 mark I had no issues with GST duty upon import.

I did note at the time that for a couple of hundred dollars more than the Aussie upgrade price I can purchase the full new suite at the American price. That's how obscene it really is when you consider that it's the exact same product.

With my Matrox MXO2 which I purchased through VideoGuys.com (tip of hat to Gary), there was GST payable on it which was calculated / lodged / handled automatically by the UPS freight people. Kind of miffed that customs charges the GST on the value of the purchase and the value of the freight and insurance.

I'd definitely keep my purchases under $1000 wherever possible. :-)

Andrew

Michael Wisniewski · September 22nd, 2011, 08:46 PM

The problem is usually import taxes that are levied by countries on a goods brought in from another country, even software sold over the internet but using a company registered to do business locally. Just ask the British, so close to B&H and yet sometimes it feels so far. Another example, in the Philippines, any new hardware you buy is generally 25% higher in price because of import taxes. Just trying shipping something there legally or simply ship it across the border from New York to Canada and watch what happens.

Countries with competitive practices like Hong Kong, Singapore, and yes even the United States, all have nearly similar pricing. But the sheer volume of sales in the U.S. really makes it one of best places to shop bar none.

Andrew Smith · September 22nd, 2011, 09:01 PM

Whilst there is a comparatively minor tariff on software imports in Australia, I think the biggest issue is that Adobe feels the need to retain their traditional sales channel through Apple dealers and other software retail stores which need to have a 30% profit margin on what they sell. Hence the cost of Adobe software in Australia is higher in order to cover this.

Well, that's my theory on it. :-)

Andrew

Sanjin Svajger · September 23rd, 2011, 04:44 AM

Now I'm really confused...is the promotional price only when switching or is it a general discount?

September 22nd, 2011, 03:41 AM	#1
Sanjin Svajger Major Player Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Slovenia Posts: 356	Adobe Suite PRICING Hi all, does anybody know why everything from Adobe cost less then half in US then it does in EU? On Amazon for example the Production Premium costs 826 dollars but on EU sites of Amazon the Production Premium cost around 2.000 €. That's more than 2.500 dollars! On the Italy Amazon.it the Suite goes for 2.300€! Anybody? Is there a reason why I shouldn't buy from the US Amazon or any other US store for that matter? Or directly from Adobe? Thx Br S

September 22nd, 2011, 05:45 AM	#2
Ann Bens Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 710	Re: Adobe Suite PRICING 50% off is worldwide. discount software \| Adobe special offers

September 22nd, 2011, 05:48 AM	#3
Erwin van Dijck Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Hoofddorp, The Netherlands Posts: 75	Re: Adobe Suite PRICING But only production premium, not for example the master collection.

September 22nd, 2011, 06:44 AM	#5
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,065	Re: Adobe Suite PRICING With regular pricing, the USA Adobe store is about half what we would pay in Australia for the exact same product. I whole-heartedly recommend buying direct from the USA store. Have the physical package delivered to a friend / forwarding company in the USA and then onwards to yourself. Andrew

September 22nd, 2011, 11:07 AM	#7
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	Re: Adobe Suite PRICING The only problem with buying from the US for non-US residents is that foreign credit cards are automatically refused by the Adobe store. I tried to order the MC CS5.5 from the US store and my credit card was refused. I had to get a US based company charge my credit card, order the MC from Adobe US, ship it to a friend, who then shipped it overseas. Ridiculous and indeed the price difference (at least in my case) was about 100%. I spoke to one of the Adobe people at the IBC about this practice and he told me he knew and would take it up internally. I wonder if it is even legal to discriminate legitimate buyers based on their country of origin?

September 22nd, 2011, 05:09 PM	#11
Gregory Gesch Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 114	Re: Adobe Suite PRICING A word of warning, be aware of your own countries import and custom laws. For example in Australia anything with a value over $1,000 is liable to a GST (government sales tax) of 10% and customs duty (0% on Software when I did it). Your parcel will be held by the Customs Department. To get it released you need to fill in numerous forms, have to chase up all the relevent Customs information and code numbers for yourself, supply reciepts and cash conversion as at the time of the purchase. The customs help personnel give no support for any of this and in my case the code number was left out of their official on-line catalogue (which after many phone calls - hours of punching in numbers and being on hold - I finally begged someone to check and was told just to put in the first couple of numbers, which was then refused by the next person up the food chain, and of course you never talk to the same person twice). The other complication is that you have to register as an importer (for yourself) and also register the supplier which includes getting information from them including contact names and phone numbers of their head staff, numerous addresses etc. You also then have to verify your identity and supply relevent documents. As this is all going through a Government Department..., need I say more. Having gone through this once it would have to be a gigantic saving for me to go through it again. Here, under $1,000 you're fine, over that get ready for the frustrations and headaches. Last edited by Gregory Gesch; September 22nd, 2011 at 05:18 PM. Reason: spellin'

September 22nd, 2011, 07:49 PM	#12
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,065	Re: Adobe Suite PRICING In my experience the credit card was accepted, no problems. I was able to do my video Production Premium upgrade for $800 USD instead of $1440+ AUD, and being under the $1000 mark I had no issues with GST duty upon import. I did note at the time that for a couple of hundred dollars more than the Aussie upgrade price I can purchase the full new suite at the American price. That's how obscene it really is when you consider that it's the exact same product. With my Matrox MXO2 which I purchased through VideoGuys.com (tip of hat to Gary), there was GST payable on it which was calculated / lodged / handled automatically by the UPS freight people. Kind of miffed that customs charges the GST on the value of the purchase and the value of the freight and insurance. I'd definitely keep my purchases under $1000 wherever possible. :-) Andrew

September 22nd, 2011, 08:46 PM	#13
Michael Wisniewski Wrangler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Makati, Metro Manila Posts: 2,706 Images: 32	Re: Adobe Suite PRICING The problem is usually import taxes that are levied by countries on a goods brought in from another country, even software sold over the internet but using a company registered to do business locally. Just ask the British, so close to B&H and yet sometimes it feels so far. Another example, in the Philippines, any new hardware you buy is generally 25% higher in price because of import taxes. Just trying shipping something there legally or simply ship it across the border from New York to Canada and watch what happens. Countries with competitive practices like Hong Kong, Singapore, and yes even the United States, all have nearly similar pricing. But the sheer volume of sales in the U.S. really makes it one of best places to shop bar none. __________________ "Ultimately, the most extraordinary thing, in a frame, is a human being." - Martin Scorsese

September 22nd, 2011, 09:01 PM	#14
Andrew Smith Equal Opportunity Offender Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,065	Re: Adobe Suite PRICING Whilst there is a comparatively minor tariff on software imports in Australia, I think the biggest issue is that Adobe feels the need to retain their traditional sales channel through Apple dealers and other software retail stores which need to have a 30% profit margin on what they sell. Hence the cost of Adobe software in Australia is higher in order to cover this. Well, that's my theory on it. :-) Andrew

September 23rd, 2011, 04:44 AM	#15
Sanjin Svajger Major Player Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Slovenia Posts: 356	Re: Adobe Suite PRICING Now I'm really confused...is the promotional price only when switching or is it a general discount?