Does Premiere 6.0 Automatically Split Video Into Clips When Capturing? at DVinfo.net

Drew Meinecke · July 26th, 2005, 07:57 PM

I was capturing video into Premiere 6.0 and it put it into one long clip even though there were many clips in it. Is there a way to make it automatically put the video into clips or do you have to do it manually?

Jordan Mooney · July 27th, 2005, 03:13 AM

Wait, did you just do batch capture? or what did you do?

Drew Meinecke · July 27th, 2005, 05:55 AM

I did Movie Capture and then did these steps:
Clicked "Play"
Clicked "Record"
After everything was recorded I clicked "Stop"
And then a window popped up asking me to name the file, which I did

And then when I open up that file, it's one long clip.

Christopher Lefchik · July 27th, 2005, 07:57 AM

Are you using Premiere 6 by itself, or with a Pinnacle DV500? On it's own I don't recall Premiere 6 being able to batch capture to separate clips. However, the DV500 came with Pinnacle's own capture utility, which may have been able to do this. I also know that with the later version(s) of the DV500 drivers a utility was included for automatically separating one long clip into separate, scene-based clips inside Premiere 6.

Jeremy Davidson · July 27th, 2005, 09:46 AM

Premiere 6.0 has a batch capture feature, but it is based on tape timecode (i.e. you define a list of clips using start and end times before starting the capture). I use this extensively to get around the 4GB file size limit I have with a FAT32 hard drive.

As far as I know it does not have a way to automatically split clips based on scene changes. Maybe the Pinnacle system Christopher mentioned can do this -- I'm just using a basic OHCI Firewire card.

Drew Meinecke · July 27th, 2005, 11:34 AM

That's really weird. So Windows Movie Maker does that for you but Premiere doesn't?

Jeremy Davidson · July 27th, 2005, 11:52 AM

I couldn't say for sure as I have barely touched WMM, but I do recall that one of the Ulead programs (came with my firewire card I think) could do it too. Premiere of course beats it on all other features, but I was surprised that scene detection was not supported by the "better" of the two.

If you really want to you can probably capture using WMM and edit in Premiere.

Hugh DiMauro · July 27th, 2005, 01:22 PM

I know Premiere Pro 1.5 breaks up the different shots when you capture. Just capture the tape.

Marco Wagner · July 27th, 2005, 03:28 PM

I don't get it... "Capture to tape" Aren't we capturing FROM tape? I was thinking this same question.

Christopher Lefchik · July 27th, 2005, 04:07 PM

Hugh,

You're right, but he has Premiere 6. Separate clips by scene detection during capture were not introduced until Premiere Pro 1.5.

Hugh DiMauro · July 28th, 2005, 08:32 AM

Capture from tape... sorry, typo. And, I didn't know version 6.0 didn't separate clips.

George Odell · August 3rd, 2005, 10:18 AM

I'm in need of something as well. I found the Pinnacle DV-200 offers a capture utility that should do exactly what we need. It comes with a standard firewire card and Premiere 6 but the capture utility is the main feature. It is no longer offered by Pinnacle but they should still be around.

I was able to download the full install program from Pinnacle. I allows me to install and open DVtools, the capture utility, but it seems to want to see the DV-200 card. It will not connect to my Panasonic DV-2000 deck. The test utility also wants to see the card before it will do a test of the connected firewire device.

I will try and locate a card to test properly. If anyone has access to one, please post your results for all to read.

Christopher Lefchik · August 3rd, 2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by George Odell

I'm in need of something as well.

You could try Scenalyzer, a capture utility which has scene detection. It's $39; the company has an older version available for free in the download section of their website. I don't know if it has scene detection or not.

Website: www.scenalyzer.com

George Odell · August 3rd, 2005, 03:18 PM

I just tried Scenalyzer, the freeware version, and it does exacly what I need.

Basically, you capture the entire tape into your hard drive from start to finish as one file (operating system permitting... I'm using W2K w/NTFS so no problem for me). Then open that big file in Scenalyzer and click on "scan datestamps". It then goes through the file and creates scene markers for each new shot (camera restart) based on the new time/date of the clip.

Then you tell it to save the markers as new DV files. You will need to have twice as much space on your HD as it will need it to copy the tapes contents all over again. After that you can delete the original capture file.

It's very simple to use and it worked perfectly in my tests. Since each time you start your DV camera you will create a new date stamp you will have a new DV file and a new picture icon in Premiere to work with.

It's free. Check it out!

Kin Kwan · August 3rd, 2005, 03:20 PM

WinDV is a free program that captures from and to tape. It also has scene detection so it creates a separate file whenever there's a scene change on the tape.

You can download it here.

July 26th, 2005, 07:57 PM	#1
Drew Meinecke Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 53	Please Help. Does Premiere 6.0 Automatically Split Video Into Clips When Capturing? I was capturing video into Premiere 6.0 and it put it into one long clip even though there were many clips in it. Is there a way to make it automatically put the video into clips or do you have to do it manually? Last edited by Drew Meinecke; July 26th, 2005 at 09:04 PM.

July 27th, 2005, 03:13 AM	#2
Jordan Mooney New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 20	Wait, did you just do batch capture? or what did you do? __________________ laaaaaaaaaater -Jordan

July 27th, 2005, 09:46 AM	#5
Jeremy Davidson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 167	Premiere 6.0 has a batch capture feature, but it is based on tape timecode (i.e. you define a list of clips using start and end times before starting the capture). I use this extensively to get around the 4GB file size limit I have with a FAT32 hard drive. As far as I know it does not have a way to automatically split clips based on scene changes. Maybe the Pinnacle system Christopher mentioned can do this -- I'm just using a basic OHCI Firewire card. __________________ There's no way for you to know if what I'm saying is true unless you know what the truth is, and there's no way for you to know what the truth is unless there is a truth that you can know. -- Frank Peretti

July 27th, 2005, 11:52 AM	#7
Jeremy Davidson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 167	I couldn't say for sure as I have barely touched WMM, but I do recall that one of the Ulead programs (came with my firewire card I think) could do it too. Premiere of course beats it on all other features, but I was surprised that scene detection was not supported by the "better" of the two. If you really want to you can probably capture using WMM and edit in Premiere. __________________ There's no way for you to know if what I'm saying is true unless you know what the truth is, and there's no way for you to know what the truth is unless there is a truth that you can know. -- Frank Peretti

July 27th, 2005, 01:22 PM	#8
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,207	I know Premiere Pro 1.5 breaks up the different shots when you capture. Just capture the tape. __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

July 27th, 2005, 05:55 AM	#3
Drew Meinecke Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 53	I did Movie Capture and then did these steps: Clicked "Play" Clicked "Record" After everything was recorded I clicked "Stop" And then a window popped up asking me to name the file, which I did And then when I open up that file, it's one long clip.

July 27th, 2005, 07:57 AM	#4
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	Are you using Premiere 6 by itself, or with a Pinnacle DV500? On it's own I don't recall Premiere 6 being able to batch capture to separate clips. However, the DV500 came with Pinnacle's own capture utility, which may have been able to do this. I also know that with the later version(s) of the DV500 drivers a utility was included for automatically separating one long clip into separate, scene-based clips inside Premiere 6.

July 27th, 2005, 11:34 AM	#6
Drew Meinecke Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: USA Posts: 53	That's really weird. So Windows Movie Maker does that for you but Premiere doesn't?

July 27th, 2005, 03:28 PM	#9
Marco Wagner Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Saint Cloud, Florida Posts: 1,043	I don't get it... "Capture to tape" Aren't we capturing FROM tape? I was thinking this same question. __________________ www.facebook.com/projectspecto

July 27th, 2005, 04:07 PM	#10
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	Hugh, You're right, but he has Premiere 6. Separate clips by scene detection during capture were not introduced until Premiere Pro 1.5.

July 28th, 2005, 08:32 AM	#11
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,207	Capture from tape... sorry, typo. And, I didn't know version 6.0 didn't separate clips. __________________ Interesting, if true. And interesting anyway.

August 3rd, 2005, 10:18 AM	#12
George Odell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 270	I'm in need of something as well. I found the Pinnacle DV-200 offers a capture utility that should do exactly what we need. It comes with a standard firewire card and Premiere 6 but the capture utility is the main feature. It is no longer offered by Pinnacle but they should still be around. I was able to download the full install program from Pinnacle. I allows me to install and open DVtools, the capture utility, but it seems to want to see the DV-200 card. It will not connect to my Panasonic DV-2000 deck. The test utility also wants to see the card before it will do a test of the connected firewire device. I will try and locate a card to test properly. If anyone has access to one, please post your results for all to read. __________________ "the difference between an amateur photographer and a professional is the amateur shows you all his pictures" Last edited by George Odell; August 3rd, 2005 at 12:28 PM.

August 3rd, 2005, 03:18 PM	#14
George Odell Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 270	I just tried Scenalyzer, the freeware version, and it does exacly what I need. Basically, you capture the entire tape into your hard drive from start to finish as one file (operating system permitting... I'm using W2K w/NTFS so no problem for me). Then open that big file in Scenalyzer and click on "scan datestamps". It then goes through the file and creates scene markers for each new shot (camera restart) based on the new time/date of the clip. Then you tell it to save the markers as new DV files. You will need to have twice as much space on your HD as it will need it to copy the tapes contents all over again. After that you can delete the original capture file. It's very simple to use and it worked perfectly in my tests. Since each time you start your DV camera you will create a new date stamp you will have a new DV file and a new picture icon in Premiere to work with. It's free. Check it out! __________________ "the difference between an amateur photographer and a professional is the amateur shows you all his pictures"

August 3rd, 2005, 03:20 PM	#15
Kin Kwan Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 120	WinDV is a free program that captures from and to tape. It also has scene detection so it creates a separate file whenever there's a scene change on the tape. You can download it here.