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Paul Curtis · June 14th, 2010, 03:21 PM

Anyone using the above combination? Is it working okay for you? I've noticed one or two places where MBL might be responsible for hanging PPro and also suddenly refusing to play. Is this just me or has anyone else noticed anything similar?

cheers
paul

Harm Millaard · June 14th, 2010, 04:10 PM

I haven't noticed this yet. What are your exact steps, so I can replicate them?

Brett Munoz · June 14th, 2010, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Curtis

Anyone using the above combination? Is it working okay for you? I've noticed one or two places where MBL might be responsible for hanging PPro and also suddenly refusing to play. Is this just me or has anyone else noticed anything similar?

cheers
paul

I would like to add, is anyone using the above with Cineform intermediate files with success? I am experiencing the same hanging issue.

Eric Addison · June 14th, 2010, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Curtis

Anyone using the above combination? Is it working okay for you? I've noticed one or two places where MBL might be responsible for hanging PPro and also suddenly refusing to play. Is this just me or has anyone else noticed anything similar?

cheers
paul

It has crashed CS5 a few times for me...not sure how to repilcate it yet, but I do save often when using it now.

Brett Munoz · June 14th, 2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Addison

It has crashed CS5 a few times for me...not sure how to repilcate it yet, but I do save often when using it now.

Does it happen when you are exporting?

Eric Addison · June 14th, 2010, 06:21 PM

No - while I'm working.

Brett Munoz · June 15th, 2010, 12:08 AM

After doing extensive testing and process of elimination, I have come to the conclusion that it is not the software combo but crossfades that are causing exports to crash. WHY?!?!?

Ann Bens · June 15th, 2010, 05:43 PM

Are these crossfades between two clips from the same instance?

Brett Munoz · June 15th, 2010, 05:53 PM

Nope. Different clips.

Xian Messerschmidt · June 15th, 2010, 08:32 PM

Are your source clips AVCHD? Sounds very similar to this known issue...

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/adobe-cr...-dissolve.html

Rich Perry · June 16th, 2010, 03:40 AM

I have been using Magic Bullet Looks, CS5 and Cineform. With a very well spec'd out PC + nVidia FX4800. I have found "Looks" to be quite slow and it appears not to be using Nvidia Cuda as the playback is often so choppy. Exports so far has been OK. Boris Continuum BCC7 effects are much faster and IMHO much better however I have stopped using these also because they just seem to constantly crash the application, hopefully these companies will provide updates to fix some of these bugs. While I love CS5, the honeymoon is over and unfortunately I have to say there are still bugs and glitches when playing with third party apps. The only real solution is to not use any at all or use AE.

Paul Curtis · June 16th, 2010, 04:51 AM

Rich,

MBL doesn't use CUDA i think all the code predates that and you're not going to see realtime playback with MBL (although a GTX285 is quite a bit faster than my old FireGL v5600)

What would be useful would be to globally turn off MBL for editing and pop it back on for grading. I'm not sure whether there's a way to do this. It would be cool if PPro could support scripting!

I had a look at a trial of boris and some do seem to be pretty fast but not real time either.

For real time you're going to be stock with adobe MPE enhanced plugins.

Ann/Xian

For my test case the clips are different sources.

Harm

I have a steps to reproduce in the cineform forum, it would be useful if you could spare the time to try if you have all the software bits.

thanks
paul

Harm Millaard · June 16th, 2010, 05:34 AM

Paul,

There are no plug-ins that can use CUDA/MPE.

I don't have Cineform, but I'll have a look at your steps and keep you informed.

June 14th, 2010, 03:21 PM	#1
Paul Curtis Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canterbury Posts: 411	Magic Bullet Looks and CS5 Anyone using the above combination? Is it working okay for you? I've noticed one or two places where MBL might be responsible for hanging PPro and also suddenly refusing to play. Is this just me or has anyone else noticed anything similar? cheers paul

June 15th, 2010, 12:08 AM	#7
Brett Munoz Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 30	Crossfades After doing extensive testing and process of elimination, I have come to the conclusion that it is not the software combo but crossfades that are causing exports to crash. WHY?!?!?

June 14th, 2010, 04:10 PM	#2
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	I haven't noticed this yet. What are your exact steps, so I can replicate them?

June 14th, 2010, 06:21 PM	#6
Eric Addison Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 74	No - while I'm working.

June 15th, 2010, 05:43 PM	#8
Ann Bens Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 710	Are these crossfades between two clips from the same instance?

June 15th, 2010, 05:53 PM	#9
Brett Munoz Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 30	Nope. Different clips.

June 15th, 2010, 08:32 PM	#10
Xian Messerschmidt Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Posts: 58	Are your source clips AVCHD? Sounds very similar to this known issue... http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/adobe-cr...-dissolve.html

June 16th, 2010, 03:40 AM	#11
Rich Perry Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nashua NH Posts: 278	I have been using Magic Bullet Looks, CS5 and Cineform. With a very well spec'd out PC + nVidia FX4800. I have found "Looks" to be quite slow and it appears not to be using Nvidia Cuda as the playback is often so choppy. Exports so far has been OK. Boris Continuum BCC7 effects are much faster and IMHO much better however I have stopped using these also because they just seem to constantly crash the application, hopefully these companies will provide updates to fix some of these bugs. While I love CS5, the honeymoon is over and unfortunately I have to say there are still bugs and glitches when playing with third party apps. The only real solution is to not use any at all or use AE.

June 16th, 2010, 04:51 AM	#12
Paul Curtis Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canterbury Posts: 411	Rich, MBL doesn't use CUDA i think all the code predates that and you're not going to see realtime playback with MBL (although a GTX285 is quite a bit faster than my old FireGL v5600) What would be useful would be to globally turn off MBL for editing and pop it back on for grading. I'm not sure whether there's a way to do this. It would be cool if PPro could support scripting! I had a look at a trial of boris and some do seem to be pretty fast but not real time either. For real time you're going to be stock with adobe MPE enhanced plugins. Ann/Xian For my test case the clips are different sources. Harm I have a steps to reproduce in the cineform forum, it would be useful if you could spare the time to try if you have all the software bits. thanks paul

June 16th, 2010, 05:34 AM	#13
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	Paul, There are no plug-ins that can use CUDA/MPE. I don't have Cineform, but I'll have a look at your steps and keep you informed.