How to make Premiere CS5 work with GTX 295 and possibly all 200 GPUs

Harm Millaard · January 6th, 2011, 10:49 AM

Right click on the file or even directory and go to security. You will see something like this for users and administrators. Change anything you need to change, but be aware you may need to go back to your Program Files directory, or even the root to gain full access to your disk.

Adam Gold · January 6th, 2011, 01:19 PM

...and if that doesn't work (and sometimes it doesn't), you might need to go to the Advanced tab shown at the bottom in the image above, and choose Owner and edit that to designate your user name as the Owner rather than System or Administrator (if I recall correctly).

Win 7 seems irrationally protective of directories it used to routinely give you access to in past OSes and this is the best way I've found around that.

Adam Gold · January 6th, 2011, 01:30 PM

Going back to the instructions in Post #1, has anyone really determined if anything other than step 3 is really necessary? The whole GPUsniffer routine is only to get your card name, which you might already know. And the settings in the NVidia control panel don't seem to have any effect, at least not on my system (and as noted elsewhere, it still thinks it's talking about CS4, even when you point to the CS5 exe).

So in my case, with a 480, I just go to the text file, find the line with "470" in it and change the 7 to an 8. Done.

John Gerard · January 14th, 2011, 03:45 PM

hi,
i dont know if my previous post got posted so i will place it again here.
i thought i would post some JPGs i captured while viewing the performance results in Windows 7. at the point of capture i am running both Premiere Pro CS5 and Encore CS5. i am editting my menus in Encore while i imported the timeline from Premiere. This is a nice feature. :-) i am converting 1440x1080i 1.333 anomorphic to 720x480 widescreen. As you can see CPU usage is high but not 100% it averages 91%-97% usage. Menory usage is very high at about 22GB. Premiere is using the full 20GB RAM installed plus a small swap file. As you can also see E: drive is my Media cache drive and F: is my RAID 0 3 drive AVI files drive/ progect drive. E drive shows high usage 50%-100% usage. My thinking is at least with this process the computer is only as fast as the slowest component. Yes a better CPU would help but I think a RAID 0 media cache drive would help also and much cheeper. $80USD compared to a new CPU $800 USD +. Before I upgraded to CS5 I was pegging the CPU at 100% usage.
My 3rd JPG shows my second try at encoding the progect. This shows that Premiere Pro CS5 is only using 15.7GB of RAM and CPU usage is 100%. The only thing i changed is moving the Media Cache file location from the single HDD E to my RAID 0 3 HDD F. Could this have made the difference?
What do you think?

Harm Millaard · January 15th, 2011, 05:01 AM

John,

You are correct in that the location of the media cache influences these results.

With the media cache and media cache database on a single disk, the CPU is waiting for the disk to deliver its data, hence the lower CPU usage. When located on a fast raid0, the CPU is no longer waiting for these data and can then hand over data to the GPU for scaling at a higher rate. Possibly due to the better syncing between CPU and GPU, there is a lesser burden on memory, so less memory is used.

Marc Brackhahn · March 26th, 2012, 02:38 PM

Never mind

January 6th, 2011, 10:49 AM	#241
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	Right click on the file or even directory and go to security. You will see something like this for users and administrators. Change anything you need to change, but be aware you may need to go back to your Program Files directory, or even the root to gain full access to your disk. Attached Thumbnails

January 6th, 2011, 01:19 PM	#242
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	...and if that doesn't work (and sometimes it doesn't), you might need to go to the Advanced tab shown at the bottom in the image above, and choose Owner and edit that to designate your user name as the Owner rather than System or Administrator (if I recall correctly). Win 7 seems irrationally protective of directories it used to routinely give you access to in past OSes and this is the best way I've found around that. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."

January 6th, 2011, 01:30 PM	#243
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Going back to the instructions in Post #1, has anyone really determined if anything other than step 3 is really necessary? The whole GPUsniffer routine is only to get your card name, which you might already know. And the settings in the NVidia control panel don't seem to have any effect, at least not on my system (and as noted elsewhere, it still thinks it's talking about CS4, even when you point to the CS5 exe). So in my case, with a 480, I just go to the text file, find the line with "470" in it and change the 7 to an 8. Done. __________________ "It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."

January 14th, 2011, 03:45 PM	#244
John Gerard Major Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Berkeley, CA, USA Posts: 227	performance Premiere Pro CS5 hi, i dont know if my previous post got posted so i will place it again here. i thought i would post some JPGs i captured while viewing the performance results in Windows 7. at the point of capture i am running both Premiere Pro CS5 and Encore CS5. i am editting my menus in Encore while i imported the timeline from Premiere. This is a nice feature. :-) i am converting 1440x1080i 1.333 anomorphic to 720x480 widescreen. As you can see CPU usage is high but not 100% it averages 91%-97% usage. Menory usage is very high at about 22GB. Premiere is using the full 20GB RAM installed plus a small swap file. As you can also see E: drive is my Media cache drive and F: is my RAID 0 3 drive AVI files drive/ progect drive. E drive shows high usage 50%-100% usage. My thinking is at least with this process the computer is only as fast as the slowest component. Yes a better CPU would help but I think a RAID 0 media cache drive would help also and much cheeper. $80USD compared to a new CPU $800 USD +. Before I upgraded to CS5 I was pegging the CPU at 100% usage. My 3rd JPG shows my second try at encoding the progect. This shows that Premiere Pro CS5 is only using 15.7GB of RAM and CPU usage is 100%. The only thing i changed is moving the Media Cache file location from the single HDD E to my RAID 0 3 HDD F. Could this have made the difference? What do you think? Attached Thumbnails

March 26th, 2012, 02:38 PM	#246
Marc Brackhahn Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 85	Re: How to make Premiere CS5 work with GTX 295 and possibly all 200 GPUs Never mind Last edited by Marc Brackhahn; March 26th, 2012 at 02:49 PM. Reason: problem solved

January 15th, 2011, 05:01 AM	#245
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	John, You are correct in that the location of the media cache influences these results. With the media cache and media cache database on a single disk, the CPU is waiting for the disk to deliver its data, hence the lower CPU usage. When located on a fast raid0, the CPU is no longer waiting for these data and can then hand over data to the GPU for scaling at a higher rate. Possibly due to the better syncing between CPU and GPU, there is a lesser burden on memory, so less memory is used.