How to make Premiere CS5 work with GTX 295 and possibly all 200 GPUs

Justin Chen · June 7th, 2010, 10:43 PM

Lars,

Typically reviews show power consumption of the entire test bed and not the graphics card itself. The review does say that it's system power draw. Though you can always look at the change in power usage from idle and full load.

I have a gtx 260, made the edit, and premiere runs accelerated. Great! but I haven't actually used premiere too much but it seems it's pretty quick at using the accelerated effects. Source video from my canon t1i h264 mov
My comp specs:
Gigabyte 790fxt-ud5p AM3
Phenom II X2 550BE @ 3.7ghz
8 GB DDR3 @ 1333 7-7-7-30 1T
EVGA gtx 260 core 216 896 MB
jbod 2x250gb, 500gb, 1tb

Ozan Biron · June 15th, 2010, 09:44 PM

Is anyone using the 257.21 driver yet? Issues with the current update?

Is the 197.x driver still better to use? Where can i download the older driver from?

Hannu Korpinen · June 15th, 2010, 10:12 PM

I am still using 197.75 for my GTX 480 and Vista 64.

download from Guru3D.com

Brant Gajda · June 16th, 2010, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozan Biron

Is anyone using the 257.21 driver yet? Issues with the current update?

Is the 197.x driver still better to use? Where can i download the older driver from?

Downloaded it yesterday, but haven't had a chance to work with it.

Nick Schulz · June 16th, 2010, 12:17 PM

What about After Effects CS5? Does this method activate the CUDA-cards for it, too?

Harm Millaard · June 16th, 2010, 12:26 PM

NO, AE does not use MPE.

David Knarr · June 16th, 2010, 06:54 PM

Hi Ozan,

You asked about the new NVIDIA drivers 257.21 WHQL.

I had been running the 197.45 WHQL drivers on 8 different systems. Premiere CS5 worked perfectly on all the computers.

I installed the 257.21 WHQL drivers on all 8 systems, then the problems began. Two of the systems are crashing on bootup, BSOD. A third system is having problems with Premiere CS5 with the 257.21 WHQL driver. It randomly crashes while using Premiere CS5. The other 5 computers are running fine.

All computers are running Windows 7 64 bit and have 6 gigs of memory. I am running several different models of video cards from NVIDIA in the computers. I went so far as to swap cards around and reinstalled the 257.21 driver several times and the systems that are having problems, still have the problems.

I have restored all the systems back to the 197.45 WHQL driver and ALL systems are back to running perfectly.

Dave
Studio 1 Productions

Maryus Ionel · June 17th, 2010, 02:13 AM

I updated my hackintosh to 10.6.4 now my GTX 275 1792 MB works just find. I guess nvidia release a x64 CUDA driver in the new update ( x86 is some how missing) but Premiere CS5 works fine, i have around 90-95% GPU usage and around 50% CPU usage (Q6600@2,4) when i export something or when i play something. I have a 7 min screen capture at 1680x1050 and i tried to export it H.264 HDTV 1080p. Without GPU-acceleration it estimated around 60 min, i wait more than 15 sec and not even 1% done, when i change to GPU it estimated around 9-10 min and in a few second it has 5% progress :D. I'm a premiere beginner, i don't know much about it. Hope this help the people who want OSX. I recommend 10.6.4 it works just great.

Randall Leong · June 17th, 2010, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Knarr

You asked about the new NVIDIA drivers 257.21 WHQL.

I had been running the 197.45 WHQL drivers on 8 different systems. Premiere CS5 worked perfectly on all the computers.

I installed the 257.21 WHQL drivers on all 8 systems, then the problems began. Two of the systems are crashing on bootup, BSOD. A third system is having problems with Premiere CS5 with the 257.21 WHQL driver. It randomly crashes while using Premiere CS5. The other 5 computers are running fine.

All computers are running Windows 7 64 bit and have 6 gigs of memory. I am running several different models of video cards from NVIDIA in the computers. I went so far as to swap cards around and reinstalled the 257.21 driver several times and the systems that are having problems, still have the problems.

I have restored all the systems back to the 197.45 WHQL driver and ALL systems are back to running perfectly.

This means that unless one performs the tweak to enable GPU acceleration I cannot recommend any of the GTX 4xx series GPUs for Premiere CS5 until Adobe certifies those cards. You see, at least with the 197.45 driver the GTX 4xx cards perform abnormally sluggish in software-only mode compared to older NVIDIA cards or ATi cards.*

*However, my finding is inconclusive because it is based on the single result in the PPBM4 table on an i7 system with a GTX 470 and MPE in software-only mode. The other results for the GTX 470 and GTX 480 all have MPE set to the GPU acceleration mode.

David Knarr · June 17th, 2010, 06:59 PM

Randall,

Are you having any problems with GTX4xx cards with the hack and CS5 MPE in hardware accelleration?
I haven't had a chance to test them yet. What drivers have you used?

I tried a GTX 285 card today with the 257.21 WHQL driver. Now the GTX 285 is a "certified" card from Adobe but I ran into several problems when adding effects and it caused the MPE to crash.

All of the problem disappeared as soon as I went back to the 197.45 WHQL. I am giving up on the 257.21 WHQL driver and will wait for NVIDIA to come out with the next version.

BTW, I have tried the GT 240, GTX 250, GTX 260, GTX 285, 9500 GT, 9600 GT and a 9800 GT cards with the 197.45 WHQL drive and Premiere CS5 using the hack and have had NO problems what so ever. I even tried a 9400 GT with 1 GB of memory on a dual core processor and it worked. It really wasn't much better than running the MPE in software mode, but it did work.

Randall Leong · June 17th, 2010, 11:40 PM

I have only judged that based on my view of the performance list in the PPBM4 site. I do not currently own any NVIDIA cards with more than 512MB of RAM, which cannot run MPE in GPU-accelerated mode at all. And I do not have a GTX 4xx series card at all due to its cost that's much higher than I can afford right now. Because of this, I can call my findings as "hearsay" or "inconclusive".

By the way, the 9400 GT is the exact same GPU as the 9500 GT but with half of the G96 GPU's 32 stream processors disabled internally at the manufacturing level.

Uwe Hansen · June 18th, 2010, 02:32 AM

No problems here with the new 257.21 driver (vista64, gtx275)...

David Knarr · June 18th, 2010, 07:38 PM

Randall, I should be getting my hands on a GTX470 this weekend to test it with the hack. I have talked to a few others who are using it with the hack and they said it running smooth and fast. They are using the 197.45 drivers. I plan on testing it with both version of the driver. I will post my results on Monday.

Uwe, have you had any problems with the CUDA enabled effects with the 257.21 driver? I had problems with a couple of them. Premiere would crash and give me an error pointing to the NVIDIA driver.

Uwe Hansen · June 19th, 2010, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Knarr

...
Uwe, have you had any problems with the CUDA enabled effects with the 257.21 driver?...

No, I just gave it a go again with the accelerated effects (3-way-color-corrector, RGB-Color-Correction, RGB-Curves, Sharpness, Gaussian Blur, Transitions...) - no freezing or crashing...

David Knarr · June 19th, 2010, 06:23 PM

Thanks for the info Uwe. I haven't had a chance to try the GTX275. Glad to hear you aren't having any problems with it, with the 257.21 driver.

I am playing around with a GTX470 with the hack right now and it is working flawlessly with the 197.45 drivers. Tomorrow, I will try it with the 257.21 drivers.

June 15th, 2010, 09:44 PM	#137
Ozan Biron Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 137	Is anyone using the 257.21 driver yet? Issues with the current update? Is the 197.x driver still better to use? Where can i download the older driver from? __________________ www.ozan.ca

June 17th, 2010, 02:13 AM	#143
Maryus Ionel New Boot Join Date: May 2010 Location: Romania\Busteni Posts: 13	Hackintosh I updated my hackintosh to 10.6.4 now my GTX 275 1792 MB works just find. I guess nvidia release a x64 CUDA driver in the new update ( x86 is some how missing) but Premiere CS5 works fine, i have around 90-95% GPU usage and around 50% CPU usage (Q6600@2,4) when i export something or when i play something. I have a 7 min screen capture at 1680x1050 and i tried to export it H.264 HDTV 1080p. Without GPU-acceleration it estimated around 60 min, i wait more than 15 sec and not even 1% done, when i change to GPU it estimated around 9-10 min and in a few second it has 5% progress :D. I'm a premiere beginner, i don't know much about it. Hope this help the people who want OSX. I recommend 10.6.4 it works just great.

June 17th, 2010, 11:40 PM	#146
Randall Leong Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Melrose Park, Illinois, USA Posts: 936	I have only judged that based on my view of the performance list in the PPBM4 site. I do not currently own any NVIDIA cards with more than 512MB of RAM, which cannot run MPE in GPU-accelerated mode at all. And I do not have a GTX 4xx series card at all due to its cost that's much higher than I can afford right now. Because of this, I can call my findings as "hearsay" or "inconclusive". By the way, the 9400 GT is the exact same GPU as the 9500 GT but with half of the G96 GPU's 32 stream processors disabled internally at the manufacturing level. Last edited by Randall Leong; June 18th, 2010 at 09:50 AM.

June 7th, 2010, 10:43 PM	#136
Justin Chen Tourist Join Date: May 2010 Location: bethesda Posts: 4	Lars, Typically reviews show power consumption of the entire test bed and not the graphics card itself. The review does say that it's system power draw. Though you can always look at the change in power usage from idle and full load. I have a gtx 260, made the edit, and premiere runs accelerated. Great! but I haven't actually used premiere too much but it seems it's pretty quick at using the accelerated effects. Source video from my canon t1i h264 mov My comp specs: Gigabyte 790fxt-ud5p AM3 Phenom II X2 550BE @ 3.7ghz 8 GB DDR3 @ 1333 7-7-7-30 1T EVGA gtx 260 core 216 896 MB jbod 2x250gb, 500gb, 1tb

June 15th, 2010, 10:12 PM	#138
Hannu Korpinen Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Keuruu, Finland Posts: 67	I am still using 197.75 for my GTX 480 and Vista 64. download from Guru3D.com

June 16th, 2010, 12:17 PM	#140
Nick Schulz New Boot Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: mülheim/ruhr Posts: 6	What about After Effects CS5? Does this method activate the CUDA-cards for it, too?

June 16th, 2010, 12:26 PM	#141
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	NO, AE does not use MPE.

June 16th, 2010, 06:54 PM	#142
David Knarr Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Port Orange, FL Posts: 59	Hi Ozan, You asked about the new NVIDIA drivers 257.21 WHQL. I had been running the 197.45 WHQL drivers on 8 different systems. Premiere CS5 worked perfectly on all the computers. I installed the 257.21 WHQL drivers on all 8 systems, then the problems began. Two of the systems are crashing on bootup, BSOD. A third system is having problems with Premiere CS5 with the 257.21 WHQL driver. It randomly crashes while using Premiere CS5. The other 5 computers are running fine. All computers are running Windows 7 64 bit and have 6 gigs of memory. I am running several different models of video cards from NVIDIA in the computers. I went so far as to swap cards around and reinstalled the 257.21 driver several times and the systems that are having problems, still have the problems. I have restored all the systems back to the 197.45 WHQL driver and ALL systems are back to running perfectly. Dave Studio 1 Productions

June 17th, 2010, 06:59 PM	#145
David Knarr Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Port Orange, FL Posts: 59	Randall, Are you having any problems with GTX4xx cards with the hack and CS5 MPE in hardware accelleration? I haven't had a chance to test them yet. What drivers have you used? I tried a GTX 285 card today with the 257.21 WHQL driver. Now the GTX 285 is a "certified" card from Adobe but I ran into several problems when adding effects and it caused the MPE to crash. All of the problem disappeared as soon as I went back to the 197.45 WHQL. I am giving up on the 257.21 WHQL driver and will wait for NVIDIA to come out with the next version. BTW, I have tried the GT 240, GTX 250, GTX 260, GTX 285, 9500 GT, 9600 GT and a 9800 GT cards with the 197.45 WHQL drive and Premiere CS5 using the hack and have had NO problems what so ever. I even tried a 9400 GT with 1 GB of memory on a dual core processor and it worked. It really wasn't much better than running the MPE in software mode, but it did work.

June 18th, 2010, 02:32 AM	#147
Uwe Hansen New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hamburg Posts: 15	No problems here with the new 257.21 driver (vista64, gtx275)...

June 18th, 2010, 07:38 PM	#148
David Knarr Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Port Orange, FL Posts: 59	Randall, I should be getting my hands on a GTX470 this weekend to test it with the hack. I have talked to a few others who are using it with the hack and they said it running smooth and fast. They are using the 197.45 drivers. I plan on testing it with both version of the driver. I will post my results on Monday. Uwe, have you had any problems with the CUDA enabled effects with the 257.21 driver? I had problems with a couple of them. Premiere would crash and give me an error pointing to the NVIDIA driver.

June 19th, 2010, 06:23 PM	#150
David Knarr Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Port Orange, FL Posts: 59	Thanks for the info Uwe. I haven't had a chance to try the GTX275. Glad to hear you aren't having any problems with it, with the 257.21 driver. I am playing around with a GTX470 with the hack right now and it is working flawlessly with the 197.45 drivers. Tomorrow, I will try it with the 257.21 drivers.