Premiere Pro 1.5.1 available at DVinfo.net

Steven Gotz · February 28th, 2005, 11:06 PM

The Premiere Pro 1.5.1 update is available for download.

And if you have Aspect HD, it will soon allow you to write back to tape. Watch for the Aspect HD upgrade to be released shortly.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...atform=Windows

Captures from, and exports back to tape. Finally.

David Newman · March 1st, 2005, 12:06 AM

The current version of Aspect HD (2.5b) is already configured to support PPro 1.5.1. So the new Premiere can be used directly from Aspect HD. To the new Premiere HDV capture tool can capture directly into an Aspect HD project, and export to tape functions today straight from an Aspect HD timeline. Finally. But more is to come Aspect HD 3.0 is very close will even more speed, more quality and control.

Andrew J Hall · March 1st, 2005, 01:14 AM

Is Aspect HD 3.0 going to be a free upgrade from 2.5 ie do I need to postpone my purchase of the Aspect / Premiere package :-) ?

Andrew Hall

Steven Gotz · March 1st, 2005, 08:25 AM

David,

I don't get the same Export to Tape option in a Cineform preset project as I do from the native Premiere Pro project. It is disabled.

Can you tell us how it is supposed to work?

David Newman · March 1st, 2005, 09:42 AM

Andrew,

Aspect HD 3.0 will be a free upgrade.

David.

David Newman · March 1st, 2005, 09:45 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Steven Gotz : David,

I don't get the same Export to Tape option in a Cineform preset project as I do from the native Premiere Pro project. It is disabled.

Can you tell us how it is supposed to work? -->>>

Go into preferences and set your device control to "HDV Device Control", plug in your HDV camera and the "Export to tape" option will be available.

David.

Greg Jacobson · March 1st, 2005, 09:39 PM

So no reason to buy Aspect HD now? I can just use the Premeire Pro 1.51 version and get the same features?

Steven Gotz · March 1st, 2005, 09:51 PM

Oh, sorry. No.

You get realtime editing with Aspect HD. You don't with just Premiere Pro. Aspect HD provides extra realtime effects and transitions. A much better deal.

You spent a lot on a camera, a lot on a NLE. You might as well spend the extra money to get the best editing solution available. I am a big Aspect HD fan. Check out my HDV page and you'll see!

Graham Hickling · March 2nd, 2005, 12:16 AM

Another missing feature that will be a bummer for some people is that the 1.5.1 update apparently only ships with the Cineform Directshow codec, and not the Video for Windows codec.

Consequently there will be a number of programs, including perhaps After Effects, that wouldn't be able to open the Cineform avi files that 1.5.1 plugin produces.

(I have no direct experience with this as yet - I'm just reading from the pdf file that comes with 1.5.1).

Kyle Edwards · March 2nd, 2005, 11:56 PM

It appears you can't use the codec in other programs besides 1.5.1. Shame, I do alot of work outside of Premiere with my footage, then bring it back into Premiere. Can't do that with this update. That is their way of getting you to pay $500 for their codec.

Greg Jacobson · March 3rd, 2005, 12:00 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Kyle Edwards : It appears you can't use the codec in other programs besides 1.5.1. Shame, I do alot of work outside of Premiere with my footage, then bring it back into Premiere. Can't do that with this update. That is their way of getting you to pay $500 for their codec. -->>>

What "other porgrams" would you expect their codec to be transferrable to? After Effects or other non-Adobe programs?

Christopher C. Murphy · March 3rd, 2005, 06:58 AM

Ok, so like every damn editor INCLUDING iMovie now edits HDV.....except the "industry standard" Final Cut Pro? My ex-wife (the PC) isn't looking to bad these days....

Graham Hickling · March 3rd, 2005, 07:34 AM

>>What "other porgrams" would you expect their codec to be transferrable to?

I tried the AspectHD demo, and the CFHD codec was available for in, for example, AfterEffects, Virtualdub, TMPGenc and Procoder .... making it very useful for general video tasks well beyond Premiere.

Kevin Shaw · March 3rd, 2005, 08:00 AM

Steven: can you give us a quick summary of what HDV editing tasks work in real time with Aspect HD? I've heard it may be a fairly short list of effects.

Greg Jacobson · March 3rd, 2005, 09:09 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Graham Hickling : >>What "other porgrams" would you expect their codec to be transferrable to?
I tried the AspectHD demo, and the CFHD codec was available for in, for example, AfterEffects, Virtualdub, TMPGenc and Procoder .... making it very useful for general video tasks well beyond Premiere. -->>>

Yeah, if you can't work on the file in AE then the included codec with Premeire Pro 1.5.1 is basically useless for a lot of people and we need to buy the $500 version from Cineform.

February 28th, 2005, 11:06 PM	#1
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	Premiere Pro 1.5.1 available The Premiere Pro 1.5.1 update is available for download. And if you have Aspect HD, it will soon allow you to write back to tape. Watch for the Aspect HD upgrade to be released shortly. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...atform=Windows Captures from, and exports back to tape. Finally. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

March 1st, 2005, 12:06 AM	#2
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	The current version of Aspect HD (2.5b) is already configured to support PPro 1.5.1. So the new Premiere can be used directly from Aspect HD. To the new Premiere HDV capture tool can capture directly into an Aspect HD project, and export to tape functions today straight from an Aspect HD timeline. Finally. But more is to come Aspect HD 3.0 is very close will even more speed, more quality and control. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 1st, 2005, 01:14 AM	#3
Andrew J Hall Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 80	Is Aspect HD 3.0 going to be a free upgrade from 2.5 ie do I need to postpone my purchase of the Aspect / Premiere package :-) ? Andrew Hall __________________ http://www.ps-scripts.com/ Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz, 2x 2Gb Ram, ATI Radeon HD 3850

March 1st, 2005, 08:25 AM	#4
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	David, I don't get the same Export to Tape option in a Cineform preset project as I do from the native Premiere Pro project. It is disabled. Can you tell us how it is supposed to work? __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

March 1st, 2005, 09:42 AM	#5
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Andrew, Aspect HD 3.0 will be a free upgrade. David. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 1st, 2005, 09:45 AM	#6
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	<<<-- Originally posted by Steven Gotz : David, I don't get the same Export to Tape option in a Cineform preset project as I do from the native Premiere Pro project. It is disabled. Can you tell us how it is supposed to work? -->>> Go into preferences and set your device control to "HDV Device Control", plug in your HDV camera and the "Export to tape" option will be available. David. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

March 1st, 2005, 09:39 PM	#7
Greg Jacobson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 141	So no reason to buy Aspect HD now? I can just use the Premeire Pro 1.51 version and get the same features?

March 1st, 2005, 09:51 PM	#8
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	Oh, sorry. No. You get realtime editing with Aspect HD. You don't with just Premiere Pro. Aspect HD provides extra realtime effects and transitions. A much better deal. You spent a lot on a camera, a lot on a NLE. You might as well spend the extra money to get the best editing solution available. I am a big Aspect HD fan. Check out my HDV page and you'll see! __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

March 2nd, 2005, 12:16 AM	#9
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Another missing feature that will be a bummer for some people is that the 1.5.1 update apparently only ships with the Cineform Directshow codec, and not the Video for Windows codec. Consequently there will be a number of programs, including perhaps After Effects, that wouldn't be able to open the Cineform avi files that 1.5.1 plugin produces. (I have no direct experience with this as yet - I'm just reading from the pdf file that comes with 1.5.1).

March 2nd, 2005, 11:56 PM	#10
Kyle Edwards Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI, NY Posts: 274	It appears you can't use the codec in other programs besides 1.5.1. Shame, I do alot of work outside of Premiere with my footage, then bring it back into Premiere. Can't do that with this update. That is their way of getting you to pay $500 for their codec.

March 3rd, 2005, 12:00 AM	#11
Greg Jacobson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 141	<<<-- Originally posted by Kyle Edwards : It appears you can't use the codec in other programs besides 1.5.1. Shame, I do alot of work outside of Premiere with my footage, then bring it back into Premiere. Can't do that with this update. That is their way of getting you to pay $500 for their codec. -->>> What "other porgrams" would you expect their codec to be transferrable to? After Effects or other non-Adobe programs?

March 3rd, 2005, 06:58 AM	#12
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Ok, so like every damn editor INCLUDING iMovie now edits HDV.....except the "industry standard" Final Cut Pro? My ex-wife (the PC) isn't looking to bad these days.... __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

March 3rd, 2005, 07:34 AM	#13
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	>>What "other porgrams" would you expect their codec to be transferrable to? I tried the AspectHD demo, and the CFHD codec was available for in, for example, AfterEffects, Virtualdub, TMPGenc and Procoder .... making it very useful for general video tasks well beyond Premiere.

March 3rd, 2005, 08:00 AM	#14
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	Steven: can you give us a quick summary of what HDV editing tasks work in real time with Aspect HD? I've heard it may be a fairly short list of effects.

March 3rd, 2005, 09:09 AM	#15
Greg Jacobson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 141	<<<-- Originally posted by Graham Hickling : >>What "other porgrams" would you expect their codec to be transferrable to? I tried the AspectHD demo, and the CFHD codec was available for in, for example, AfterEffects, Virtualdub, TMPGenc and Procoder .... making it very useful for general video tasks well beyond Premiere. -->>> Yeah, if you can't work on the file in AE then the included codec with Premeire Pro 1.5.1 is basically useless for a lot of people and we need to buy the $500 version from Cineform.