Vob to Mpeg2 extraction help at DVinfo.net

Jake Sawyer · January 6th, 2005, 10:51 PM

I'm trying to extract a .VOB file into a mpeg2 file, so I can put it in premiere and make a master copy on a miniDV tape.

I've tryed simply renaming the vob file to .mpeg or .m2v, but it gives me audio distortion when I do that. What program could I use or do to beable to extract it to a mpeg2 file without the audio distortion?

Also, when I render my files in premiere to be exported on a miniDV the image on the dv tape is jittery, like the image is overlapping it's self. Anybody know how to solve that? Any help appreciated!

Viktor Carlquist · January 7th, 2005, 02:38 AM

Its because of the copy protection of DVDs. Its not meant to be copied.

However I suppose you are allowed to do it if its your own footage.
Try this page http://www.riphelp.com/

Jake Sawyer · January 7th, 2005, 11:59 AM

Yes, it's my own footage. I looked at the site, but I haven't really found a tool yet that can do what I'm looking for. Do you have any suggestions?

Rob Lohman · January 9th, 2005, 06:18 AM

As you found out the file is already MPEG-2. However, it is an
MPEG-2 transport/program stream which most programs do not
know how to handle.

The audio can be in PCM, AC3 (Dolby Digital) or in MPEG audio.

As you found out some programs like (Premiere) might not work
with this. What you need to do is de-mux the files into their
elementery streams or convert the file.

What you might try is get www.virtualdub.org and see
if it can load the file. Then save it out as an uncompressed AVI.

If that doesn't work you need a tool like bbTools:

www.doom9.net, go to download and then vob tools.
You see bbTools there.

Do you know in what format the audio stream is? If it is in AC3
(Dolby Digital) you need to decode it first. Look for a program
called BeSweet.

Nick Medrano · January 17th, 2005, 10:55 AM

I just went to www.mainconcept.com and bought the MPEG Pro editor plugin for Adobe Premiere Pro and was able to import VOB files into the Premiere timeline and edit AND export to minidv tape.

http://www.mainconcept.com/mpeg_encoder.shtml

For a limited time, you can get it for $49.

Keith Loh · January 17th, 2005, 11:46 AM

I use VirtualDubMod all the time to change a VOB to uncompressed avi.

Nick Medrano · January 17th, 2005, 12:48 PM

Keith,
Don't you get some video artifacting when you do that?

Keith Loh · January 17th, 2005, 12:56 PM

Well, I only use it so that I have usable source to further compress.

I do usually have to deinterlace which is a pretty big change from any 'original' you have.

John Britt · January 17th, 2005, 02:50 PM

This may be of no help to you, but I just finished an ad where the footage I needed was supplied on DVD. All I had to do was change the VOB file extension to MPG -- then I imported the file into Windows Movie Maker and exported it as a DV AVI file (finally found a use for Windows Movie Maker!). The DV AVI file was then imported into Premiere for editing.

Trying to import the renamed VOB/MPG into Premiere Pro directly caused Premiere to crash. But once I converted it to AVI in WMM, it worked fine (and looked/sounded fine, as far as I can tell). I know you said that the audio sounded all wrong, but maybe putting it in WMM will help...

Jake Sawyer · January 18th, 2005, 08:07 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Nick Medrano : I just went to www.mainconcept.com and bought the MPEG Pro editor plugin for Adobe Premiere Pro and was able to import VOB files into the Premiere timeline and edit AND export to minidv tape.

http://www.mainconcept.com/mpeg_encoder.shtml

For a limited time, you can get it for $49. -->>>

Hey, I'm considering doing this, but I want to make sure I won't blow my money on it. Does it work fine? It doesn't make any modifications to the VOB file right? Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm still trying to solve this one.

Nick Medrano · January 18th, 2005, 09:48 PM

Get the demo and find out:)

http://downloads.mainconcept.com/fdl...gprov1.0.5.exe

Btw, works great for me. Just used it this morning to rip a 37minute DVD into the Premiere timeline. No need to mess with all those other crappy little "VOB programs" like virtual dub, etc. What a waste of time.

Just import the VOB to Premiere and Voila!

Rob Lohman · January 19th, 2005, 05:50 AM

Funny you mention VirualDUB. That actually isn't a VOB program
at all. It allows you to work with it with the RIGHT MPEG-2 filters
and codecs installed on your system. VirtualDUB is more a swiss
knife for digital video offering ways to convert and process
footage in all sorts of ways (including frameserving).

Jake Sawyer · January 20th, 2005, 09:32 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Nick Medrano : Get the demo and find out:)

http://downloads.mainconcept.com/fdl...gprov1.0.5.exe

Btw, works great for me. Just used it this morning to rip a 37minute DVD into the Premiere timeline. No need to mess with all those other crappy little "VOB programs" like virtual dub, etc. What a waste of time.

Just import the VOB to Premiere and Voila! -->>>

Whoops, how did I miss that! Well, I got it and it works! Though when I export it to mini DV and play it back on the t.v. theres areas that are slightly more pixelated/jaggy compared to the DVD.

Nick Medrano · January 20th, 2005, 10:25 PM

Glad to see that you got it working.

Oh, I used to live in Austin for 4 years from 2001- 2004. How's my favorite city doing?

Jake Sawyer · January 21st, 2005, 08:47 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Nick Medrano : Glad to see that you got it working.

Oh, I used to live in Austin for 4 years from 2001- 2004. How's my favorite city doing? -->>>

Doing great. Austin is really booming into the movie and music production world. Thanks again! You saved me a headache worth of trouble.

January 6th, 2005, 10:51 PM	#1
Jake Sawyer Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 48	Vob to Mpeg2 extraction help I'm trying to extract a .VOB file into a mpeg2 file, so I can put it in premiere and make a master copy on a miniDV tape. I've tryed simply renaming the vob file to .mpeg or .m2v, but it gives me audio distortion when I do that. What program could I use or do to beable to extract it to a mpeg2 file without the audio distortion? Also, when I render my files in premiere to be exported on a miniDV the image on the dv tape is jittery, like the image is overlapping it's self. Anybody know how to solve that? Any help appreciated!

January 7th, 2005, 02:38 AM	#2
Viktor Carlquist Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Stockholm (Sweden) Posts: 30	Its because of the copy protection of DVDs. Its not meant to be copied. However I suppose you are allowed to do it if its your own footage. Try this page http://www.riphelp.com/ __________________ Canon EOS 7D, Canon XM2, MA-300, Azden SGM-1x

January 9th, 2005, 06:18 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	As you found out the file is already MPEG-2. However, it is an MPEG-2 transport/program stream which most programs do not know how to handle. The audio can be in PCM, AC3 (Dolby Digital) or in MPEG audio. As you found out some programs like (Premiere) might not work with this. What you need to do is de-mux the files into their elementery streams or convert the file. What you might try is get www.virtualdub.org and see if it can load the file. Then save it out as an uncompressed AVI. If that doesn't work you need a tool like bbTools: www.doom9.net, go to download and then vob tools. You see bbTools there. Do you know in what format the audio stream is? If it is in AC3 (Dolby Digital) you need to decode it first. Look for a program called BeSweet. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 17th, 2005, 11:46 AM	#6
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	I use VirtualDubMod all the time to change a VOB to uncompressed avi. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

January 17th, 2005, 12:56 PM	#8
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Well, I only use it so that I have usable source to further compress. I do usually have to deinterlace which is a pretty big change from any 'original' you have. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

January 7th, 2005, 11:59 AM	#3
Jake Sawyer Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 48	Yes, it's my own footage. I looked at the site, but I haven't really found a tool yet that can do what I'm looking for. Do you have any suggestions?

January 17th, 2005, 10:55 AM	#5
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	I just went to www.mainconcept.com and bought the MPEG Pro editor plugin for Adobe Premiere Pro and was able to import VOB files into the Premiere timeline and edit AND export to minidv tape. http://www.mainconcept.com/mpeg_encoder.shtml For a limited time, you can get it for $49.

January 17th, 2005, 12:48 PM	#7
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	Keith, Don't you get some video artifacting when you do that?

January 17th, 2005, 02:50 PM	#9
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	This may be of no help to you, but I just finished an ad where the footage I needed was supplied on DVD. All I had to do was change the VOB file extension to MPG -- then I imported the file into Windows Movie Maker and exported it as a DV AVI file (finally found a use for Windows Movie Maker!). The DV AVI file was then imported into Premiere for editing. Trying to import the renamed VOB/MPG into Premiere Pro directly caused Premiere to crash. But once I converted it to AVI in WMM, it worked fine (and looked/sounded fine, as far as I can tell). I know you said that the audio sounded all wrong, but maybe putting it in WMM will help...

January 18th, 2005, 08:07 PM	#10
Jake Sawyer Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 48	<<<-- Originally posted by Nick Medrano : I just went to www.mainconcept.com and bought the MPEG Pro editor plugin for Adobe Premiere Pro and was able to import VOB files into the Premiere timeline and edit AND export to minidv tape. http://www.mainconcept.com/mpeg_encoder.shtml For a limited time, you can get it for $49. -->>> Hey, I'm considering doing this, but I want to make sure I won't blow my money on it. Does it work fine? It doesn't make any modifications to the VOB file right? Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm still trying to solve this one.

January 18th, 2005, 09:48 PM	#11
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	Get the demo and find out:) http://downloads.mainconcept.com/fdl...gprov1.0.5.exe Btw, works great for me. Just used it this morning to rip a 37minute DVD into the Premiere timeline. No need to mess with all those other crappy little "VOB programs" like virtual dub, etc. What a waste of time. Just import the VOB to Premiere and Voila!

January 19th, 2005, 05:50 AM	#12
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Funny you mention VirualDUB. That actually isn't a VOB program at all. It allows you to work with it with the RIGHT MPEG-2 filters and codecs installed on your system. VirtualDUB is more a swiss knife for digital video offering ways to convert and process footage in all sorts of ways (including frameserving). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 20th, 2005, 09:32 PM	#13
Jake Sawyer Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 48	<<<-- Originally posted by Nick Medrano : Get the demo and find out:) http://downloads.mainconcept.com/fdl...gprov1.0.5.exe Btw, works great for me. Just used it this morning to rip a 37minute DVD into the Premiere timeline. No need to mess with all those other crappy little "VOB programs" like virtual dub, etc. What a waste of time. Just import the VOB to Premiere and Voila! -->>> Whoops, how did I miss that! Well, I got it and it works! Though when I export it to mini DV and play it back on the t.v. theres areas that are slightly more pixelated/jaggy compared to the DVD.

January 20th, 2005, 10:25 PM	#14
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	Glad to see that you got it working. Oh, I used to live in Austin for 4 years from 2001- 2004. How's my favorite city doing?

January 21st, 2005, 08:47 AM	#15
Jake Sawyer Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 48	<<<-- Originally posted by Nick Medrano : Glad to see that you got it working. Oh, I used to live in Austin for 4 years from 2001- 2004. How's my favorite city doing? -->>> Doing great. Austin is really booming into the movie and music production world. Thanks again! You saved me a headache worth of trouble.