Adobe Premiere discussions from 2003

John Britt · December 17th, 2003, 12:52 PM

Mark--

But track mattes are stationary, are they not? If the hands are moving, can he still use a track matte effectively?

(not trying to be contradictory -- just curious if there is a way to animate track mattes in Premiere)

Jason Heck · December 17th, 2003, 04:04 PM

32 bit will have it's good uses but I feel that it should be an option. Convert everything to 16 bit as a standard (if you were importing a 12 bit mp3 or the like) if you want but only do 32 if the editor chooses so and is going to need it.

Johnny Cheung · December 18th, 2003, 03:30 AM

i have problem with the sound too, but i think my problem is quite different, and i need help...thanks

the thing is, my computer reboot automatically when i was dealing with a 2 mins footage on premiere pro, then when i went back to premiere pro after the reboot, i continued with my work, but there is no sound anymore (it works fine in every other programs, even my premier6.5), then i tried to rendered the short clip to wmv, and it reboot again in the middle of the rendering, then after it reboot, i tried to render the wmv again and it worked, and i checked the wmv, the sound is there, but i dunno why, i am just no longer able to play sound on premiere pro anymore. i checked the setting u mentioned here above, but didnt seem to help much... anyone?

thanks

Johnny Cheung · December 19th, 2003, 05:37 PM

fixed.

Al Chapman · December 20th, 2003, 11:18 AM

Much to my surprise after installing the downloadable demo version of Main Concepts Main Actor edit programme I found I was able to import TS files into premiere pro simply by renaming them as .mpg. While I cannot play the files smoothly (I am running dual Athalon MPs at 2.6ghz) it is handy to be able to export and convert files via premiere. Have not tried after effects yet.

Paul St. Denis · December 22nd, 2003, 08:26 PM

Interesting, my guess is that any directshow compatable mpeg2 decoder that recognizes transport streams would make it possible to bring mpeg2 into Premiere, has anyone tried Al's rename method after installing the $20 Elecard player? http://www.moonlight.co.il/down_eval.htm How about with Vegas and Premiere on the same machine?
How much does Main Actor cost?

Rob Lohman · December 23rd, 2003, 09:25 AM

With what equipment was the file captured? If I'm not mistaken
analog captures can have a different resolution then a DV "capture".
Also, Premiere is probably seeing the footage at the wrong aspect
ratio, unless it was captured at another resolution.

Some number might help us cracking your problem.

Rob Lohman · December 23rd, 2003, 09:41 AM

Sounds like the audio encoder for the file format you have chosen
is responsible for this, please tell us:

1) the audio encoder you are using when exporting

2) the settings (bitrate, frequency, bits etc. etc.)

John Perkins · December 23rd, 2003, 05:53 PM

Thanks, i'll try to be as detailed as possible.
First, I did find a solution, but it is not ideal. If I output the timeline as an uncompressed file and then drop that file into Procoder, it works fine. But i don't want the extra step.

I also had interlacing problems with Premiere 6.5 outputting to the Procoder plugin. It looked more like a field order problem. No setting would have a effect. If i output to DV or Uncompressed first, no problem. This wierd artifacting only shows up when the clip is a DV quicktime from Final Cut.

The clips in question this time around were most likely captured either from cable tv directly onto a dv deck or from VHS through a Canopus analog->DV box.
If i drop the quicktime clip into Procoder it works fine. It's only going directly from Premiere to Mpeg2 that it screws up. I've tried what seems like every setting that would have an effect in Premiere pro and Premiere 6.5.

thanks

Rob Lohman · December 23rd, 2003, 06:12 PM

I've had similar problems with Premiere in the past and simply
worked around them and now switched to Vegas. Can you tell
me what the resolution is of the analog file? (NOT the DV files).

For example. Analog PAL is often captured at 768 x 576 instead
of the standard DV PAL resolution of 720 x 576.

But it sounds like you've found the "only" solution...

Heath McKnight · December 23rd, 2003, 07:11 PM

I was into Linux earlier this year, and my roommate and I tried out Suze Linux with some success. It came with Main Actor, but I think it was a "junior" edition.

Try this out.

heath

John Perkins · December 24th, 2003, 02:41 AM

The projects were NTSC DV 720x480.
I never really had analog capture files. All the footage was brought to the computer world with some form of DV hardware.

It was a television show originally shot on film. I guess it is possible it could have something to do with the 24 to 29.97 pulldown. It works fine unless i export to an encoder.
It's still a Premiere problem.
I guess i should try Vegas.

thanks

December 17th, 2003, 04:04 PM	#872
Jason Heck New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 14	Conforming 32 bit will have it's good uses but I feel that it should be an option. Convert everything to 16 bit as a standard (if you were importing a 12 bit mp3 or the like) if you want but only do 32 if the editor chooses so and is going to need it.

December 20th, 2003, 11:18 AM	#875
Al Chapman New Boot Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bracknell, UK Posts: 15	Mpeg TS files in Premiere Pro Much to my surprise after installing the downloadable demo version of Main Concepts Main Actor edit programme I found I was able to import TS files into premiere pro simply by renaming them as .mpg. While I cannot play the files smoothly (I am running dual Athalon MPs at 2.6ghz) it is handy to be able to export and convert files via premiere. Have not tried after effects yet. __________________ FREELANCE CAMERA CREW www.tvcameraman.info CREWS, EDITING, STOCK FOOTAGE www.ingenioustv.co.uk

December 23rd, 2003, 09:25 AM	#877
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	With what equipment was the file captured? If I'm not mistaken analog captures can have a different resolution then a DV "capture". Also, Premiere is probably seeing the footage at the wrong aspect ratio, unless it was captured at another resolution. Some number might help us cracking your problem. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 23rd, 2003, 09:41 AM	#878
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Sounds like the audio encoder for the file format you have chosen is responsible for this, please tell us: 1) the audio encoder you are using when exporting 2) the settings (bitrate, frequency, bits etc. etc.) __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 23rd, 2003, 06:12 PM	#880
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I've had similar problems with Premiere in the past and simply worked around them and now switched to Vegas. Can you tell me what the resolution is of the analog file? (NOT the DV files). For example. Analog PAL is often captured at 768 x 576 instead of the standard DV PAL resolution of 720 x 576. But it sounds like you've found the "only" solution... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 17th, 2003, 12:52 PM	#871
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	Mark-- But track mattes are stationary, are they not? If the hands are moving, can he still use a track matte effectively? (not trying to be contradictory -- just curious if there is a way to animate track mattes in Premiere)

December 18th, 2003, 03:30 AM	#873
Johnny Cheung Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 38	i have problem with the sound too, but i think my problem is quite different, and i need help...thanks the thing is, my computer reboot automatically when i was dealing with a 2 mins footage on premiere pro, then when i went back to premiere pro after the reboot, i continued with my work, but there is no sound anymore (it works fine in every other programs, even my premier6.5), then i tried to rendered the short clip to wmv, and it reboot again in the middle of the rendering, then after it reboot, i tried to render the wmv again and it worked, and i checked the wmv, the sound is there, but i dunno why, i am just no longer able to play sound on premiere pro anymore. i checked the setting u mentioned here above, but didnt seem to help much... anyone? thanks

December 19th, 2003, 05:37 PM	#874
Johnny Cheung Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 38	fixed.

December 22nd, 2003, 08:26 PM	#876
Paul St. Denis Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Stony Brook NY Posts: 169	Interesting, my guess is that any directshow compatable mpeg2 decoder that recognizes transport streams would make it possible to bring mpeg2 into Premiere, has anyone tried Al's rename method after installing the $20 Elecard player? http://www.moonlight.co.il/down_eval.htm How about with Vegas and Premiere on the same machine? How much does Main Actor cost?

December 23rd, 2003, 05:53 PM	#879
John Perkins Tourist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3	Thanks, i'll try to be as detailed as possible. First, I did find a solution, but it is not ideal. If I output the timeline as an uncompressed file and then drop that file into Procoder, it works fine. But i don't want the extra step. I also had interlacing problems with Premiere 6.5 outputting to the Procoder plugin. It looked more like a field order problem. No setting would have a effect. If i output to DV or Uncompressed first, no problem. This wierd artifacting only shows up when the clip is a DV quicktime from Final Cut. The clips in question this time around were most likely captured either from cable tv directly onto a dv deck or from VHS through a Canopus analog->DV box. If i drop the quicktime clip into Procoder it works fine. It's only going directly from Premiere to Mpeg2 that it screws up. I've tried what seems like every setting that would have an effect in Premiere pro and Premiere 6.5. thanks

December 23rd, 2003, 07:11 PM	#881
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I was into Linux earlier this year, and my roommate and I tried out Suze Linux with some success. It came with Main Actor, but I think it was a "junior" edition. Try this out. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

December 24th, 2003, 02:41 AM	#882
John Perkins Tourist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3	The projects were NTSC DV 720x480. I never really had analog capture files. All the footage was brought to the computer world with some form of DV hardware. It was a television show originally shot on film. I guess it is possible it could have something to do with the 24 to 29.97 pulldown. It works fine unless i export to an encoder. It's still a Premiere problem. I guess i should try Vegas. thanks