Adobe Premiere discussions from 2003

James Emory · November 11th, 2003, 05:42 PM

The only way I know how to do this is to zoom out the time line until you can see the entire project length at once and then you can see the edit line anywhere as it plays.

Nawaf Alali · November 11th, 2003, 06:43 PM

Rob,
I have Premiere 6.5, and I tried holding the space bar. doesn't work (the clip keeps play/pause/play/pause).

James,
yeah i know. but sometimes I need to zoom in all the way, to monitor the waves (for audio).
the best way to do it now (while zoomed in) is to follow the edit line by moving the scroll at the bottom. the down side about it is that you can't do anything else with the mouse while scrolling.

Ed Smith · November 12th, 2003, 05:23 AM

As far as I am aware of this cannot be done.

The only way that I can get something similar is if I keep my finger on the 'right' navigation key on the keyboard (frame right). This go's slightly slower than realtime.

all the best,

Ed

Corey Sturmer · November 12th, 2003, 02:35 PM

Don't fade, my pretty thread!! Please, how do I change the render codec???

Leo Espinosa · November 12th, 2003, 11:34 PM

yeah, with no luck.... I finnaly resorted to using the standalone version of WM9 encoder instead of exporting it from Premiere...

Thanks

David Cervenka · November 13th, 2003, 12:03 PM

Corey -

I see the light at the end of the tunnel........... j/k

Found this on the Adobe site, let us know if it solves your problem?

Video for Windows Compressors
To view Video for Windows compressors, you must first choose Video for Windows from the Editing Mode pop-up menu in the General Project Settings dialog box, or from the File Type pop-up menu in the General Export Movie Settings dialog box. To view the Microsoft DV (NTSC) or Microsoft DV (PAL) compressors, choose DV Playback from the File Type pop-up menu in the General Export Movie Settings dialog box.

Most Video for Windows compressors are better suited for multimedia than for broadcast video (with the exception of Microsoft DV [NTSC] and Microsoft DV [PAL]). The following software compressors are included with Video for Windows.

Cinepak
See "Cinepak" in the QuickTime Compressors section of this document for a complete description.

Intel Indeo 5.10
This codec is useful for video distributed over the Internet for computers with MMX or Pentium II processors. Intel Indeo 5.10 includes features such as a quick compression option, flexible keyframe control, chroma keying (transparency), playback effects, and on-the-fly cropping that reduces data load. This codec also employs a progressive download feature that adapts to different network bandwidths. Full use of these features requires utility software from Intel. The codec is designed to work together with the Intel Audio Software codec.

Intel Indeo Video R3.2
This codec is useful for compressing 24-bit video for playback from CD-ROMs. This codec attains higher compression ratios, better image quality, and faster playback than the Microsoft Video 1 codec. For best results, use the Indeo Video codec on raw source data that hasn't been previously compressed with a highly lossy codec. When used with a data rate for playback, this codec produces movies that are comparable in quality to those compressed with the Cinepak codec.

JPEG
JPEG, which uses the Joint Photographic Experts Group algorithm for image compression, is an international standard for compressing still images. The software-based JPEG compressor is normally used where quality must be maintained rather than real-time playback. When using JPEG, compression ratios are dependent on image content, but can range from 5:1 to 100:1. You can normally expect a compression ratio of 10:1. Ideal picture quality comes from compression ratios between 10:1 and 20:1.

Microsoft DV (NTSC) and Microsoft DV (PAL)
Microsoft's DV (NTSC) and DV (PAL) codecs are used to compress video transferred to and from a DV camera and an OHCI device on computers running Windows 98SE and later. Microsoft DV (NTSC) and Microsoft DV (PAL) have a fixed data rate (3.6 MB/second) and frame size (720 x 480). Microsoft DV (NTSC) is used with DV cameras manufactured in North America and Japan; Microsoft DV (PAL) is used with DV cameras manufactured in Europe.

Microsoft RLE
This codec is useful for compressing frames that contain large areas of flat color, such as cartoon-style animation. This codec uses a spatial 8-bit run-length encoding (RLE) compressor and is lossless at the 100% quality setting.

Microsoft Video 1
This lossy, spatial codec is useful for compressing analog video. It supports pixel depths of 8 or 16 bits.

Joel Ruggiero · November 13th, 2003, 02:19 PM

OK I just got P.P. last week and I am just trying to learn everything. I just made like a little snowboard video just to see what I could do. After I exported into an avi file and watch it, when someone likes grinds a rail or falls or something the audio gets like statickey or something?? I no its something I am doing wrong, any suggestions?? One other thing, this is a stupid question probably but how do I compress the footage to email it to someone ??

Corey Sturmer · November 13th, 2003, 03:54 PM

Thanks, but no that does not really answer my question...I'm not having a problem with rendering my final video, I'm having trouble with the real-time processing...It's going slow and it didn't go slow before, and I'm wondering if this is because my hardware is outdated (Shouldn't be, look above), or something isn't set right...Thanks again.

David Cervenka · November 13th, 2003, 06:37 PM

my length response was to your "How do I go about changing that?" question.

Open the Task Manager (right-click the toolbar) and then click on the Performance tab. Try to render, what sort of CPU/memory usage are you seeing?

Then check this out:
Slow running machine using Adobe Premiere 7.0
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?50@197.4r4YbrowEDe.1@.2cce3b3e

If that still doesn't answer your question, roam around the Adode User Forum for Premiere Pro and you'll find it.
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?14@@.1de9c1bf

Dustin Cross · November 14th, 2003, 03:39 PM

Aloha,

I just downloaded an .m2t from this site. Changed the file extension to .mpg and imported it into Adobe Premiere 6.5 on Windows 2kpro and put it right on the timeline with no problems. I didn't think this would work? Are the .m2t files people have uploaded (Paul Mogg GGBridge) not really transport stream?

Dustin Cross · November 14th, 2003, 03:57 PM

There must be something special about that files, because other .m2t files lock up Premiere.

Paul Mogg · November 14th, 2003, 04:12 PM

The only difference is that they were edited in the KDDI editor that came with the camera to add the overlay text.

Don Berube · November 14th, 2003, 04:12 PM

Hi Dustin,

Which .m2t file are you referring to? Could you please provide the URL?

Thank you,

- don

Dustin Cross · November 14th, 2003, 06:25 PM

The files I downloaded are the ones at http://www.dvinfo.net/jvc/media/ The PaulMogg_GGBridge1.m2t files goes into Premiere just fine. The other ones lock up the system. Maybe I am not waiting long enough, but there is no response and no CPU usage.

Don Berube · November 14th, 2003, 08:08 PM

Thank you for responding so quickly Dustin.

I do hope that you are having some nice weather in Kaneohe. Certainly a very beautiful place to be!

So you know, it's quite c-o-o-o-l-d where I am here just outside of Harvard Square in Cambridge, MA.

- don

November 11th, 2003, 05:42 PM	#751
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Viewing the edit line while playing The only way I know how to do this is to zoom out the time line until you can see the entire project length at once and then you can see the edit line anywhere as it plays.

November 12th, 2003, 05:23 AM	#753
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	As far as I am aware of this cannot be done. The only way that I can get something similar is if I keep my finger on the 'right' navigation key on the keyboard (frame right). This go's slightly slower than realtime. all the best, Ed __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

November 12th, 2003, 02:35 PM	#754
Corey Sturmer Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 144	Don't fade, my pretty thread!! Please, how do I change the render codec??? __________________ Corey Sturmer Producer - Woffester Productions

November 13th, 2003, 02:19 PM	#757
Joel Ruggiero Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Buffalo,NY Posts: 167	Audio problem wiht P.P. OK I just got P.P. last week and I am just trying to learn everything. I just made like a little snowboard video just to see what I could do. After I exported into an avi file and watch it, when someone likes grinds a rail or falls or something the audio gets like statickey or something?? I no its something I am doing wrong, any suggestions?? One other thing, this is a stupid question probably but how do I compress the footage to email it to someone ??

November 13th, 2003, 03:54 PM	#758
Corey Sturmer Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 144	Thanks, but no that does not really answer my question...I'm not having a problem with rendering my final video, I'm having trouble with the real-time processing...It's going slow and it didn't go slow before, and I'm wondering if this is because my hardware is outdated (Shouldn't be, look above), or something isn't set right...Thanks again. __________________ Corey Sturmer Producer - Woffester Productions

November 11th, 2003, 06:43 PM	#752
Nawaf Alali Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Kuwait, Kuwait Posts: 100	Rob, I have Premiere 6.5, and I tried holding the space bar. doesn't work (the clip keeps play/pause/play/pause). James, yeah i know. but sometimes I need to zoom in all the way, to monitor the waves (for audio). the best way to do it now (while zoomed in) is to follow the edit line by moving the scroll at the bottom. the down side about it is that you can't do anything else with the mouse while scrolling.

November 12th, 2003, 11:34 PM	#755
Leo Espinosa New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 16	yeah, with no luck.... I finnaly resorted to using the standalone version of WM9 encoder instead of exporting it from Premiere... Thanks

November 13th, 2003, 12:03 PM	#756
David Cervenka New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 16	Corey - I see the light at the end of the tunnel........... j/k Found this on the Adobe site, let us know if it solves your problem? Video for Windows Compressors To view Video for Windows compressors, you must first choose Video for Windows from the Editing Mode pop-up menu in the General Project Settings dialog box, or from the File Type pop-up menu in the General Export Movie Settings dialog box. To view the Microsoft DV (NTSC) or Microsoft DV (PAL) compressors, choose DV Playback from the File Type pop-up menu in the General Export Movie Settings dialog box. Most Video for Windows compressors are better suited for multimedia than for broadcast video (with the exception of Microsoft DV [NTSC] and Microsoft DV [PAL]). The following software compressors are included with Video for Windows. Cinepak See "Cinepak" in the QuickTime Compressors section of this document for a complete description. Intel Indeo 5.10 This codec is useful for video distributed over the Internet for computers with MMX or Pentium II processors. Intel Indeo 5.10 includes features such as a quick compression option, flexible keyframe control, chroma keying (transparency), playback effects, and on-the-fly cropping that reduces data load. This codec also employs a progressive download feature that adapts to different network bandwidths. Full use of these features requires utility software from Intel. The codec is designed to work together with the Intel Audio Software codec. Intel Indeo Video R3.2 This codec is useful for compressing 24-bit video for playback from CD-ROMs. This codec attains higher compression ratios, better image quality, and faster playback than the Microsoft Video 1 codec. For best results, use the Indeo Video codec on raw source data that hasn't been previously compressed with a highly lossy codec. When used with a data rate for playback, this codec produces movies that are comparable in quality to those compressed with the Cinepak codec. JPEG JPEG, which uses the Joint Photographic Experts Group algorithm for image compression, is an international standard for compressing still images. The software-based JPEG compressor is normally used where quality must be maintained rather than real-time playback. When using JPEG, compression ratios are dependent on image content, but can range from 5:1 to 100:1. You can normally expect a compression ratio of 10:1. Ideal picture quality comes from compression ratios between 10:1 and 20:1. Microsoft DV (NTSC) and Microsoft DV (PAL) Microsoft's DV (NTSC) and DV (PAL) codecs are used to compress video transferred to and from a DV camera and an OHCI device on computers running Windows 98SE and later. Microsoft DV (NTSC) and Microsoft DV (PAL) have a fixed data rate (3.6 MB/second) and frame size (720 x 480). Microsoft DV (NTSC) is used with DV cameras manufactured in North America and Japan; Microsoft DV (PAL) is used with DV cameras manufactured in Europe. Microsoft RLE This codec is useful for compressing frames that contain large areas of flat color, such as cartoon-style animation. This codec uses a spatial 8-bit run-length encoding (RLE) compressor and is lossless at the 100% quality setting. Microsoft Video 1 This lossy, spatial codec is useful for compressing analog video. It supports pixel depths of 8 or 16 bits.

November 13th, 2003, 06:37 PM	#759
David Cervenka New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 16	my length response was to your "How do I go about changing that?" question. Open the Task Manager (right-click the toolbar) and then click on the Performance tab. Try to render, what sort of CPU/memory usage are you seeing? Then check this out: Slow running machine using Adobe Premiere 7.0 http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?50@197.4r4YbrowEDe.1@.2cce3b3e If that still doesn't answer your question, roam around the Adode User Forum for Premiere Pro and you'll find it. http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?14@@.1de9c1bf

November 14th, 2003, 03:39 PM	#760
Dustin Cross Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 133	.m2t and Premiere 6.5 Aloha, I just downloaded an .m2t from this site. Changed the file extension to .mpg and imported it into Adobe Premiere 6.5 on Windows 2kpro and put it right on the timeline with no problems. I didn't think this would work? Are the .m2t files people have uploaded (Paul Mogg GGBridge) not really transport stream? __________________ Mahalo, Dusty

November 14th, 2003, 03:57 PM	#761
Dustin Cross Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 133	There must be something special about that files, because other .m2t files lock up Premiere. __________________ Mahalo, Dusty

November 14th, 2003, 04:12 PM	#762
Paul Mogg Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 386	The only difference is that they were edited in the KDDI editor that came with the camera to add the overlay text. __________________ Paul

November 14th, 2003, 04:12 PM	#763
Don Berube Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA (travel frequently) Posts: 837	Hi Dustin, Which .m2t file are you referring to? Could you please provide the URL? Thank you, - don __________________ DONALD BERUBE - noisybrain. Productions, LLC Director Of Photography/ Producer/ Consultant http://noisybrain.com/donbio.html CREATE and NETWORK with http://www.bosfcpug.org and also http://fcpugnetwork.org

November 14th, 2003, 06:25 PM	#764
Dustin Cross Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 133	The files I downloaded are the ones at http://www.dvinfo.net/jvc/media/ The PaulMogg_GGBridge1.m2t files goes into Premiere just fine. The other ones lock up the system. Maybe I am not waiting long enough, but there is no response and no CPU usage. __________________ Mahalo, Dusty

November 14th, 2003, 08:08 PM	#765
Don Berube Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Boston, MA (travel frequently) Posts: 837	Thank you for responding so quickly Dustin. I do hope that you are having some nice weather in Kaneohe. Certainly a very beautiful place to be! So you know, it's quite c-o-o-o-l-d where I am here just outside of Harvard Square in Cambridge, MA. - don __________________ DONALD BERUBE - noisybrain. Productions, LLC Director Of Photography/ Producer/ Consultant http://noisybrain.com/donbio.html CREATE and NETWORK with http://www.bosfcpug.org and also http://fcpugnetwork.org