Adobe Premiere discussions from 2003

[Glenn Chan]

I got better results using QT than Windows Media Player 8. http://www.foraychallenge.ca/daytwo.html

That was just with quicktime pro. I believe squeeze just lets you encode faster- which is a god send if your project is an hour long and takes a day to encode.

Pixel aspect ratios I don't find to be a problem. DV for a computer format should be a multiple of 640X480 like 320X240 (I highly suggest 320X240 and lower to avoid interlacing issues). DV if I remember correctly is not a 0.9 aspect ratio but close to it.

Settings I find work are:
quality should be a low number around 20
keyframes should be 7 or higher- doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
limit data rate to... leave this unchecked
frames per second- up to you. If 15fps looks ok then go ahead (it probably shouldn't be 15fps on the dot but rather 29.97fps divided by 2).

encode only video first till you get something acceptable, audio usually takes very little space using a decent codec like mp3, mp4, and maybe qdesign music (qdesign sounds crappy to me with my own material, but not with the trailers on apple.com's quicktime section).

The program I was using was outputting direct from Final Cut Pro 3. Quicktime Pro on the PC should have the exact same settings for you to fiddle with. Adobe Premiere should have QT Pro built into it or something, but the interface is different and confusing.

DivX is the best though. :) My friend says that real player 9 is as good (takes longer to encode) but the realOne player is evil incarnate.

[Michael Botkin]

I've got a 2 min short shot on DV. I never encode to post on the web, but I've got a new website going with a friend. I'm trying to get the audio on this damn thing to not sound like it was shot in a tin can. Shot on a GL2, the audio is 16bit stereo 48khz 1 second interleave. That matches the project settings as well. Now what setting can I use to compress this audio? I tried to match what quicktime uses on the website for trailers, and they are using Qdesign Music 2, 22,5khz 16bit stereo and the sound on mine is completely awful and theirs is clear as day. Anyone have good audio settings that they use on a regular basis? For reference their file size is 7.12MB and mine uncompressed is 31.2mb. Any suggestions for decent audio?

[Michael Botkin]

I've changed it to 16bit mono in qdesign, and i've got my file size down to 8.62mb and it still sounds like crap, but now at the end of the file, there is this huge feedback noise (which about blew my speakers out) where there is no audio in the track. I'm honestly confused. There is no audio at this point in the timeline.

[Rob Lohman]

We are using IMU 4:1 on Lady X at 22.050 hz 16 bit stereo. When
I made it 8 bit it didn't sound that good either.

One thing to note is that Premiere has some very very bad
audio algorithms in the package. I once converted sound from
44.1 khz to 48 or the other way around and it was just
too bad to listen to with also cracks and plops that hurt my
speakers.

I exported the WAV in the original format, loaded it up into an
audio package, did the resampling there and then loaded that
back into premiere for final output. Presto! No more problems.

I'd bet that the problems are coming from the Premiere conversion
and not the QuickTime encoding.

[Glenn Chan]

qdesign sounds awful to my ears and not because of sample rate conversion (although this can be bad for your audio). The trailers sound wonderful though, it just might be how they mixed the soundtrack. Anyways, I would use mp3 audio (most compatible) or else MPEG4 audio (needs Quicktime 6 and is better compression than mp3). MPEG4 audio sounds great.

[Ted Springer]

I agree with others that qdesign sounds bad. What is interesting is that's what Apple uses to encode the sound on their movie trailers for their website. But of course they are using a very professional encoder.

For my money, you can't beat IMA 4:1. Bump it down to 32Khz to save a bit more space, and/or convert to mono. It sounds pretty good at 32khz, surprisingly. It is also far more compatible then say MPEG 4.

[Ryan Krga]

When I render my project in Premire Pro, the image gets all screwed up. If I knew the term to describe what is happening right now, I would, but I can't because I've never seen it before.

When I render the project or export to Microsoft AVI the picture gets messed up, how it is here:

http://www.visital.com/random/stillframe.jpg

This doesn't happen when I use Adobe's Media Encoder, but since I need the file to be full quality AVI, this does no good for me.

If you know what's going on or how to fix it, please respond ASAP.

Thank you very much,
Ryan Krga

[Rob Lohman]

Well that is definitely something beyond repair, that's for sure.

I'd say this is a major bug in the new version of Premiere. BUT,
please tell us exactly what kind of input footage you are using
(file format, codecs, resolution, framerate etc.) and what your
EXACT export settings are (file format, codec, resolution, frame
rate, bitrates if applicable etc. etc.). Try to be as detailed as
possible.

[Ryan Krga]

Footage:

-AVI
-Full Uncompressed
-720 x 480
-29.97 FPS

Rendering:

-Avid AVI Codec 2.0d2
-NTSC
-Interlaced
-15:1s
-Millions of Colors
-Optimize Stills Checked

[Steve Withers]

Try reinstalling Premiere Pro?

[Chris Mueller]

Try changing the codec you're using to render.

[Ryan Krga]

I couldn't change the codec because it was greyed out, but I uninstalled the free copy of Avid and reinstalled Premiere after it. The picture looks fine, except when I play it, it doesn't play the rendered video, still plays real-time. Is there anyway I can make it playback rendered instead of real-time?

[Richard Austin]

Ive just recieved prem pro and im having a major problem with it.....it wont detect my capture card.......i have tried uninstalling the capture card, moving the capture card to another pci slot, uninstalling prem 6.0 and reinstalling prem pro with no results....I was looking on the adobe website and doesnt have the raptor-rt as a certified card, only the raptor-rt/2 .....

when i go to change the setting it only has dv/IEEE1394 capture device available......

I have the latest driver for my card downloaded just two days ago..........

Does anyone have any ideas?

thanks

rich

[Rob Lohman]

I'm pretty sure the problem is between Premiere and the AVID
codec somehow... Perhaps they need to update the codec to
be compatible with PPRO?

[Rob Lohman]

My guess would be that the raptors drivers aren't compatible
with Premiere Pro. Try the forums at pinnacle/canopus for
raptor info.