Adobe Premiere discussions from 2003

Brian Wood · August 31st, 2003, 06:43 PM

Thanks, Do you know if this bug is fixed in Premiere Pro?

Brian

Ed Smith · September 1st, 2003, 02:52 AM

Hi Andy,

Thanks for the detailed reply.

It might be worth upgrading Premiere to 6.02 or other wwise buy Premiere Pro or 6.5.

Your machine is a bit slow now, how ever that does not look like the problem, Unless its casheing into the memory.

HD space does not seem to be the problem.

There should not be a problem with audio muteing affecting video tracks (you might need to render audio), however if you mute a video track you will have to re-render.

It might be worth reseting to default. As you open up Premiere press I think Ctrl+Shift. This will reset everything in Premiere.

Peter Moore · September 1st, 2003, 08:02 AM

Don't know, but they said Premier Pro is built from the ground up, so I would certainly hope so!

Waco Oguin · September 2nd, 2003, 07:15 PM

I'm editing a project that was shot in frame mode on a canon xl1.The video looks perfect untill I add an effect or add a title, then the colors are slighted muted and it's a little jagged and blury. If I export a video file straight from premiere, it looks fine, but if I export it from after effects, it has the same jagged/blury look.

The people at Adobe tell me it's because of the frame mode.

I've tried using "no fields" with the same effect.

Thanks,

Waco

Dan Lahav · September 2nd, 2003, 10:37 PM

I tried to run Adobe Premiere Pro on my computer and as it starts loading up, i get the error message "Adobe Premiere Pro cannot run on this computer because the processor does not support the SSE instruction set."

My computer specs are:
1.4ghz AMD T-bird
512MB RAM
Geforce 3
etc etc...

Charles King · September 3rd, 2003, 01:14 AM

I don't know if this helps but I think the problem is Premiere pro is optimize for Pentium 4 processors. I could be wrong altogether.

Hans Henrik Bang · September 3rd, 2003, 02:21 AM

That is a nasty wall to hit... The problem is already described in Adobes knowledge database. Look it up here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/31a06.htm

Basically support of SSE instruction set is a requirement and older AMD processors do not support this. I believe that the Palomino core was the first AMD processor to support SSE.

Basically the way I see it, you are out of luck until you buy a new CPU.

Hans Henrik

Waco Oguin · September 3rd, 2003, 08:55 AM

I'm editing a project in premiere that was shot in frame mode on a canon xl1.The video looks perfect untill I add an effect or add a title, then the colors are slighted muted and it's a little jagged and blury. If I export a video file straight from premiere, it looks fine, but if I export it from after effects, it has the same jagged/blury look.

The people at Adobe tell me it's because of the frame mode.

I've tried using "no fields" with the same effect.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Waco

Glen Elliott · September 3rd, 2003, 09:05 AM

*Vegas fans around the world snicker*

Ed Smith · September 3rd, 2003, 09:51 AM

How does it look on a picture monitor (TV) is still blurry?

Are you using Mac or PC?

What version of Premiere?

Are all your settings the same? Use the settings viewer to find out in Premiere?

Thanks,

Ed

Waco Oguin · September 3rd, 2003, 11:11 AM

Yes, it's still blurry on my tv.

I'm usuing a PC, running win 2000.

I'm using Premiere 6.02

All the settings are the same.

The only thing I haven't been able to try as far as the fields go is using "no fields" when capturing. I'm not sure if it's possible.

Anthony Williams · September 3rd, 2003, 12:51 PM

i can assist here as i had the same problem but mine was due to another reason altogether as i have an Athlon XP 1700.

anyway here is the info on different processors I came across when I ran into the problem.:

Here's some info that might clear it up for you:
Here's what the different CPUs contain:

Pentium III. - MMX, SSE
Pentium 4.. - MMX, SSE, SSE2
Athlon …... - MMX, ...................3DNow!
Athlon MP. - MMX, SSE, ...........3DNow!
Athlon XP.. - MMX, SSE, ...........3DNow!, Extended-3DNow!

So plain Athlon's do NOT have the SSE instructions but the Athlon MP and XP's do. Since PPro does not use any 3DNow! instructions, there should not be a difference between the MP or XP CPUs for running PPro.

So the T-Bird does not support SSE so an upgrade will be needed.

Dan Lahav · September 3rd, 2003, 03:21 PM

Bummer... Thanks for all the info guys. Better go upgrade..GRrrrrr >:(

Nick Medrano · September 3rd, 2003, 03:25 PM

Have been playing with it and so far I've been very pleased. The MOVIE LOOKS presets are very good. You can also buy 45 additional presets called SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, TRAFFIC, AMELIE, etc for a total of $45. Not bad.

So far so good. Now only if I had a 24p plugin...

Peter Higginbottom · September 4th, 2003, 02:59 PM

Hi
I`m still considering going to Premiere pro, but as an aside.
I am using a so called "cheapo" motherboard, K7S5A, with a RT.X100, 2400xp thorobred. SSE was enabled by using WPCUID(sic) to enable Xtools to be installed, then bios flashed to enable SSE permanently.
It looks to me that its mainly processor "speed" causes more problems than lack of SSE, if SSE can be enabled with a thorobred on Your particular motherboard.

So reading the previous posts, would Prem Pro be runnable without upgrading?, it looks so to me. But as the wife says "Your not often right, but Your wrong again"

Best Wishes.

Peter...

September 1st, 2003, 02:52 AM	#542
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Hi Andy, Thanks for the detailed reply. It might be worth upgrading Premiere to 6.02 or other wwise buy Premiere Pro or 6.5. Your machine is a bit slow now, how ever that does not look like the problem, Unless its casheing into the memory. HD space does not seem to be the problem. There should not be a problem with audio muteing affecting video tracks (you might need to render audio), however if you mute a video track you will have to re-render. It might be worth reseting to default. As you open up Premiere press I think Ctrl+Shift. This will reset everything in Premiere. __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

September 2nd, 2003, 07:15 PM	#544
Waco Oguin New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: athens ga Posts: 5	XL1 frame mode and premiere I'm editing a project that was shot in frame mode on a canon xl1.The video looks perfect untill I add an effect or add a title, then the colors are slighted muted and it's a little jagged and blury. If I export a video file straight from premiere, it looks fine, but if I export it from after effects, it has the same jagged/blury look. The people at Adobe tell me it's because of the frame mode. I've tried using "no fields" with the same effect. Thanks, Waco

September 2nd, 2003, 10:37 PM	#545
Dan Lahav Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 172	Premiere Pro SSE problem I tried to run Adobe Premiere Pro on my computer and as it starts loading up, i get the error message "Adobe Premiere Pro cannot run on this computer because the processor does not support the SSE instruction set." My computer specs are: 1.4ghz AMD T-bird 512MB RAM Geforce 3 etc etc...

September 3rd, 2003, 01:14 AM	#546
Charles King Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 795	I don't know if this helps but I think the problem is Premiere pro is optimize for Pentium 4 processors. I could be wrong altogether. __________________ Charles 'What we perceive to be may not be what we believe to be.'

September 3rd, 2003, 08:55 AM	#548
Waco Oguin New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: athens ga Posts: 5	Frame mode and premiere I'm editing a project in premiere that was shot in frame mode on a canon xl1.The video looks perfect untill I add an effect or add a title, then the colors are slighted muted and it's a little jagged and blury. If I export a video file straight from premiere, it looks fine, but if I export it from after effects, it has the same jagged/blury look. The people at Adobe tell me it's because of the frame mode. I've tried using "no fields" with the same effect. Any ideas? Thanks, Waco

August 31st, 2003, 06:43 PM	#541
Brian Wood Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: East Lansing, Michigan Posts: 77	Thanks, Do you know if this bug is fixed in Premiere Pro? Brian

September 1st, 2003, 08:02 AM	#543
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	Don't know, but they said Premier Pro is built from the ground up, so I would certainly hope so!

September 3rd, 2003, 02:21 AM	#547
Hans Henrik Bang Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Frederiksberg, Denmark Posts: 133	That is a nasty wall to hit... The problem is already described in Adobes knowledge database. Look it up here: http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/31a06.htm Basically support of SSE instruction set is a requirement and older AMD processors do not support this. I believe that the Palomino core was the first AMD processor to support SSE. Basically the way I see it, you are out of luck until you buy a new CPU. Hans Henrik

September 3rd, 2003, 09:05 AM	#549
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Vegas fans around the world snicker

September 3rd, 2003, 09:51 AM	#550
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	How does it look on a picture monitor (TV) is still blurry? Are you using Mac or PC? What version of Premiere? Are all your settings the same? Use the settings viewer to find out in Premiere? Thanks, Ed __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

September 3rd, 2003, 11:11 AM	#551
Waco Oguin New Boot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: athens ga Posts: 5	Yes, it's still blurry on my tv. I'm usuing a PC, running win 2000. I'm using Premiere 6.02 All the settings are the same. The only thing I haven't been able to try as far as the fields go is using "no fields" when capturing. I'm not sure if it's possible.

September 3rd, 2003, 12:51 PM	#552
Anthony Williams Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 26	i can assist here as i had the same problem but mine was due to another reason altogether as i have an Athlon XP 1700. anyway here is the info on different processors I came across when I ran into the problem.: Here's some info that might clear it up for you: Here's what the different CPUs contain: Pentium III. - MMX, SSE Pentium 4.. - MMX, SSE, SSE2 Athlon …... - MMX, ...................3DNow! Athlon MP. - MMX, SSE, ...........3DNow! Athlon XP.. - MMX, SSE, ...........3DNow!, Extended-3DNow! So plain Athlon's do NOT have the SSE instructions but the Athlon MP and XP's do. Since PPro does not use any 3DNow! instructions, there should not be a difference between the MP or XP CPUs for running PPro. So the T-Bird does not support SSE so an upgrade will be needed.

September 3rd, 2003, 03:21 PM	#553
Dan Lahav Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: CA Posts: 172	Bummer... Thanks for all the info guys. Better go upgrade..GRrrrrr >:(

September 3rd, 2003, 03:25 PM	#554
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	Have been playing with it and so far I've been very pleased. The MOVIE LOOKS presets are very good. You can also buy 45 additional presets called SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, TRAFFIC, AMELIE, etc for a total of $45. Not bad. So far so good. Now only if I had a 24p plugin...

September 4th, 2003, 02:59 PM	#555
Peter Higginbottom Regular Crew Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wakefield.West Yorkshire. Posts: 45	PREMIERE PRO Hi I`m still considering going to Premiere pro, but as an aside. I am using a so called "cheapo" motherboard, K7S5A, with a RT.X100, 2400xp thorobred. SSE was enabled by using WPCUID(sic) to enable Xtools to be installed, then bios flashed to enable SSE permanently. It looks to me that its mainly processor "speed" causes more problems than lack of SSE, if SSE can be enabled with a thorobred on Your particular motherboard. So reading the previous posts, would Prem Pro be runnable without upgrading?, it looks so to me. But as the wife says "Your not often right, but Your wrong again" Best Wishes. Peter...