Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

Brian Handler · June 24th, 2005, 07:17 AM

I kinda remember someone telling me that they had no problem running premiere on a 64os. Did 1.5.1 address any of that?

Dan Euritt · June 24th, 2005, 10:00 AM

premiere pro 1.0 was full of bugs, yet adobe still charged it's customers for the "upgrade" to premiere pro 1.5... it should have been free, released as a bug fix.

not a good track record to be making any assumptions on.

Ed Smith · June 24th, 2005, 10:10 AM

Hi dan,

I'm a bit confused.

do you have a picture whihc you can post online somewhere of the problem?

Ed Smith · June 24th, 2005, 10:16 AM

Its something that I would [i[not[/i] generally recommend.

Main reason being:

Say for instance you are browsing the internet, or looking at some video clip through windows explorer. Explorer is pretty prone to hanging. As it hangs it eats up the CPU usage. This will then in turn cause Premiere to abort capture, or start dropping frames. This could happen with any other program.

Thats why you will find that most dealers of NLE products will advise you not to run anything in the background (including screensavers and Anti virus) while capturing, editing or exporting.

If it were me I would not do it. The last thing you need is a 1 hour long capture to become currupt...

Cheers,

Ed Smith · June 24th, 2005, 10:24 AM

Hello Saturnin,

The Radeon card you have is a Graphics Card! This is only used to display your windows interfaces, on a VGA/ DVI monitor. If you wish to see video on your TV monitor then you can:

1. If your camcorder supports it you can do DV>analogue passthough. Simply hook up your Dv camera to your firewire port and connect your tv to the RCA phono on your camcorder. Make sure Premiere is set to Firewire (DV) Preview in settings.

2. By a Capture card that has analogue out, which support Premiere Pro (Matrox RTX.10/ 100 etc)

This sort of question has appeared before.

Thanks,

Clarence Walker · June 24th, 2005, 10:30 AM

Well my test to add new fonts, downloaded from the internet, failed. The system couldn't read the fonts.

I'm looking for several "script" types of fonts. I'm shocked that Premiere only includes one lousy script font.

Is there a software CD where I can get fonts for Premiere?

Thanks

Chad Solo · June 24th, 2005, 10:43 AM

I have allot of old 8MM tapes I'm converting to DVD and I'm wondering what workflow you all use like adding contrast or another filter. I'm using Premiere 1.5 and just wondering what everyone uses when they convert their old 8MM tape's. Thank's for any input you all can give.

Chad

Adam Kampia · June 24th, 2005, 11:12 AM

While all advice to be cautious should be well heeded, a beefy enough system can handle it. This, again, is from personal experience. I've captured scores of tapes using all methods (batch, scene detect, straight through) and gone into other apps (like some heavy-duty Photoshop work) without a single dropped frame.
That's just me though. (Dual 2.8 Xeon, 2GB Ram, Matrox RTX.100 for capture, Raid 0 video storage--to capture to, WD Raptor for OS & apps). Maybe this would wreak havoc with some other systems. But I think I've given PPro 1.5's background cap feature an adequate torture test.

Ming Dong · June 24th, 2005, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Euritt

premiere pro 1.0 was full of bugs, yet adobe still charged it's customers for the "upgrade" to premiere pro 1.5... it should have been free, released as a bug fix.

not a good track record to be making any assumptions on.

What really angers me is that they pretty much stopped supporting 1.0, expecting everyone to upgrade to 1.5. For instance, they never released a "fix" for the XP SP2 compatability problems in 1.0, that were fixed in 1.5.

Not everyone needs the HD support in 1.5, so Adobe should continue to support the 1.0 users (with updates/bug fixes).

Pete Bauer · June 24th, 2005, 01:22 PM

This sentiment has been expressed before:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=34987

I'd half-agree with Dan: Adobe should have continued support of v1.0 at least for a while, since v1.5 wasn't free (although an inexpensive upgrade in relation to the cost of the software). But the feature enhancements in 1.5 were good value for dollar even if one doesn't want the HDV capability that was added in the free 1.5.1 update.

If you're unhappy enough with any product, you can always vote with your wallet. Consumer's choice! We shall see in due course what sort of upgrade Adobe offers us.

Saturnin Kondratiew · June 24th, 2005, 01:37 PM

wicked...yah i know my card isnt made for video capture only ...i use to work on a dp(something..cant rember the name) card back in the late 90's.
Ok i'll try to see if i can run it via the camera or my sony deck....
it runs great..thank you for your help....

Todd Kivimaki · June 24th, 2005, 02:35 PM

I have a quick question, I've messed with some setting, but I don't have a understanding of what they do so I can't get it to work.

When I apply a transition (cross dissolve) sometims the previous scene shows up. It's a quick shot of the previous scene then it jumps to the current scene. Then I have to go in and ripple edit the scene to shorten it, it's not a big deal, but if there's a way to tell premiere pro not to go back for a transition it would help me out a lot.

Also is there a way to do a batch render, more then 1 sequence at once?

Thanks,
Todd

David Yuen · June 24th, 2005, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Kivimaki

Also is there a way to do a batch render, more then 1 sequence at once?

No. Unfortuntately, that feature was "lost" when Premiere Pro came out and it has yet to return.

Christopher Lefchik · June 24th, 2005, 06:50 PM

Adobe usually releases new program versions on 18 month cycles, so we're due for a new Premiere Pro release sometime this fall. The free upgrade window extends back one month from when the new version is announced.

Adam Kampia · June 24th, 2005, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Kivimaki

I have a quick question, I've messed with some setting, but I don't have a understanding of what they do so I can't get it to work.

When I apply a transition (cross dissolve) sometims the previous scene shows up. It's a quick shot of the previous scene then it jumps to the current scene. Then I have to go in and ripple edit the scene to shorten it, it's not a big deal, but if there's a way to tell premiere pro not to go back for a transition it would help me out a lot.

Also is there a way to do a batch render, more then 1 sequence at once?

Thanks,
Todd

There is no way to tell Premiere Pro to handle transitions differently. It is simply no longer an A/B editing environment.

Once you get used to this, an easy way to avoid having to go back and ripple edit your clips is to:

1) set your in point/out point in the source or trim window
2) Determine your transition length. Let's assume the default 1 sec.
3) Shift+arrow 3 times (moves at 5 frames each click = 15 frames).
4) Insert clip

This ensures the perfect amount of "handle" footage for the transition.

June 24th, 2005, 07:17 AM	#1126
Brian Handler Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Muncie Indiana Posts: 118	I kinda remember someone telling me that they had no problem running premiere on a 64os. Did 1.5.1 address any of that? __________________ Email me for projects in Ohio or Indiana. Lighting > Everything.

June 24th, 2005, 10:10 AM	#1128
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Hi dan, I'm a bit confused. do you have a picture whihc you can post online somewhere of the problem? __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

June 24th, 2005, 10:16 AM	#1129
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Its something that I would [i[not[/i] generally recommend. Main reason being: Say for instance you are browsing the internet, or looking at some video clip through windows explorer. Explorer is pretty prone to hanging. As it hangs it eats up the CPU usage. This will then in turn cause Premiere to abort capture, or start dropping frames. This could happen with any other program. Thats why you will find that most dealers of NLE products will advise you not to run anything in the background (including screensavers and Anti virus) while capturing, editing or exporting. If it were me I would not do it. The last thing you need is a 1 hour long capture to become currupt... Cheers, __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

June 24th, 2005, 10:24 AM	#1130
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Hello Saturnin, The Radeon card you have is a Graphics Card! This is only used to display your windows interfaces, on a VGA/ DVI monitor. If you wish to see video on your TV monitor then you can: 1. If your camcorder supports it you can do DV>analogue passthough. Simply hook up your Dv camera to your firewire port and connect your tv to the RCA phono on your camcorder. Make sure Premiere is set to Firewire (DV) Preview in settings. 2. By a Capture card that has analogue out, which support Premiere Pro (Matrox RTX.10/ 100 etc) This sort of question has appeared before. Thanks, __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

June 24th, 2005, 10:30 AM	#1131
Clarence Walker Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 31	Font Test Well my test to add new fonts, downloaded from the internet, failed. The system couldn't read the fonts. I'm looking for several "script" types of fonts. I'm shocked that Premiere only includes one lousy script font. Is there a software CD where I can get fonts for Premiere? Thanks

June 24th, 2005, 10:00 AM	#1127
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	premiere pro 1.0 was full of bugs, yet adobe still charged it's customers for the "upgrade" to premiere pro 1.5... it should have been free, released as a bug fix. not a good track record to be making any assumptions on.

June 24th, 2005, 10:43 AM	#1132
Chad Solo Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: St.Petersburg,Fla Posts: 162	Old 8MM Tape To DVD workflow I have allot of old 8MM tapes I'm converting to DVD and I'm wondering what workflow you all use like adding contrast or another filter. I'm using Premiere 1.5 and just wondering what everyone uses when they convert their old 8MM tape's. Thank's for any input you all can give. Chad

June 24th, 2005, 11:12 AM	#1133
Adam Kampia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 58	While all advice to be cautious should be well heeded, a beefy enough system can handle it. This, again, is from personal experience. I've captured scores of tapes using all methods (batch, scene detect, straight through) and gone into other apps (like some heavy-duty Photoshop work) without a single dropped frame. That's just me though. (Dual 2.8 Xeon, 2GB Ram, Matrox RTX.100 for capture, Raid 0 video storage--to capture to, WD Raptor for OS & apps). Maybe this would wreak havoc with some other systems. But I think I've given PPro 1.5's background cap feature an adequate torture test.

June 24th, 2005, 01:22 PM	#1135
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	This sentiment has been expressed before: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=34987 I'd half-agree with Dan: Adobe should have continued support of v1.0 at least for a while, since v1.5 wasn't free (although an inexpensive upgrade in relation to the cost of the software). But the feature enhancements in 1.5 were good value for dollar even if one doesn't want the HDV capability that was added in the free 1.5.1 update. If you're unhappy enough with any product, you can always vote with your wallet. Consumer's choice! We shall see in due course what sort of upgrade Adobe offers us. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

June 24th, 2005, 01:37 PM	#1136
Saturnin Kondratiew Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: vancouver Posts: 310	thanx wicked...yah i know my card isnt made for video capture only ...i use to work on a dp(something..cant rember the name) card back in the late 90's. Ok i'll try to see if i can run it via the camera or my sony deck.... it runs great..thank you for your help.... __________________ My documentaries - http://www.asphaltjunkiez.com

June 24th, 2005, 02:35 PM	#1137
Todd Kivimaki Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Elida Ohio Posts: 217	Transition Settings I have a quick question, I've messed with some setting, but I don't have a understanding of what they do so I can't get it to work. When I apply a transition (cross dissolve) sometims the previous scene shows up. It's a quick shot of the previous scene then it jumps to the current scene. Then I have to go in and ripple edit the scene to shorten it, it's not a big deal, but if there's a way to tell premiere pro not to go back for a transition it would help me out a lot. Also is there a way to do a batch render, more then 1 sequence at once? Thanks, Todd

June 24th, 2005, 06:50 PM	#1139
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	Adobe usually releases new program versions on 18 month cycles, so we're due for a new Premiere Pro release sometime this fall. The free upgrade window extends back one month from when the new version is announced.