Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

Xander Christ · May 17th, 2005, 12:45 AM

Premiere Pro 1.5.1 handles HDV footage just like regular DV footage. Editing techniques are exactly the same. Plug-ins work almost the same (some plug-ins don't handle HD resolution). Any Premiere Pro book will teach the software.

Adobe is using CineForm's HDV software to edit the software. www.cineform.com will show you why it thinks it's the best solution for Premiere Pro.

Frode Flobak · May 17th, 2005, 05:43 AM

Did I unawarely alter something in my Monitor window? In the Source view the scene/ picture is downscaled horisontally, with a black bar on each side, while in the Project view the picture is normally scaled. I can’t find the reason for this, and I cannot remember it was like this before. Maybe something I changed somewhere? Any suggestions or help?

Tim Kolb · May 18th, 2005, 10:41 PM

I don't know of any on 1.5.1.

Mine is focused on v1 with a pdf update on the Focal Press site for v1.5 and Jacob Rosenberg's book is based on v1.5...but 1.5.1 is pretty new in book years...

I suspect we'll all have a new crop of tree-killing instruction when the next version hits.

Chris J Martin · May 20th, 2005, 06:45 AM

Hello everyone,
I have what I assume to be a simple problem. Using premiere pro 7 and dragging a clip down onto the timeline, placing it over another clip in video 1, I assumed was an overlay edit which should replace the video footage with the drag and drop footage but keep the audio from the original footage on the timeline.

What I get is the original footage cut away and replaced with the drag and drop video and audio. How do I just overlay the new video IE: cut it in but still retain the original audio ?

Thankyou

Adam Kampia · May 20th, 2005, 07:05 AM

If you are dragging from the source monitor, the simplest way is to toggle the 3-way switch (has a film icon on it) at the bottom right from "video & Audio" to "video only". You can toggle it once mor if you just wanted the audio, for instance.

If working solely in the timeline, you want to Alt + click the video clip to slect it w/o slececting its audio. You can also Alt+click the audio and delet it if you wish.

Chris J Martin · May 20th, 2005, 12:30 PM

Thanks, that was easy ! as you can tell I am a complete beginner

Joe Mobic · May 20th, 2005, 08:41 PM

The scene is two people talking to each other side by side at a table with a white glossy chalkboard (but it uses eraseable markers to write on) behind them.

The light hits it in a way that it has this sunlike highlight right over the heads and behind the two people. Its a relatively small spot, however it needs to be taken out. Is there a way in Premiere 1.5 to eliminate this light spot?

Jeff dePascale · May 21st, 2005, 10:25 AM

Cleanly? maybe enough that you wont really notice it too much...what you could do, if it is a stationary shot, is duplicate the clip, put it again in layer two, use the crop tool to select only the highlight area, apply a luminosity key until only the highlight is selected with a feathered edge, then apply after that a level adjustment effect and play with that until it matches. Of course, if the shot moves it'll be really hard...just make sure you apply the luminosity key before the levels effect, or it wont work right. Once it is done you can also adjust the opacity of the video 2 track to look a little more natural. Hope that helps.

Glenn Chan · May 21st, 2005, 12:48 PM

if the spot moves, you can look into motion tracking with after effects to get rid of it.

Gustavo Godinho · May 21st, 2005, 05:43 PM

Hi guys,

I´m having a problem with my Premiere Pro 1.0. When I move a clip to another track, only the audio or the video goes up and down.

Ex: I place the clip called “my little brother.avi” on the track 1 of the timeline. I click the video of that clip and try to move it to the superior track (video 2). It moves, but the audio stays on audio track 1. The audio was supposed to move to audio track 2, but it didn´t.

What is it?

Adam Kampia · May 21st, 2005, 06:26 PM

That's actually the way Premiere is set up.
You can manually move the audio clip down to track 2 as well.

Often, folks don't want the audio clip to keep moving down, and thus farther away from its linked video. Often the video clips being inserted to video 1 are just jumpbacks or something with no audio anyway.

Tim Kolb · May 21st, 2005, 08:02 PM

There are numerous ways to deal with the situation, but the key is to use the video itself as the source as you can match action...

i might try putting the video directly over itself on a higher track and choosing "Invert" and creating a black spot where the white spot is...if you crank up the contrast, you may be able to isolate the area alone and use a "reverse" luminance key with some reduced opacity to take that area down a bit...

Henry Cho · May 22nd, 2005, 10:18 AM

if that doesn't generate the results you want, i have a suggestion.

in after effects (and photoshop), this should be relatively painless. grab a still of the video frame where the highlight is apparent. open the still in photoshop, and on a new layer, use the clone tool or healing brush to hide or bring down the highlight. make sure your clone brush is feathered to give you a little leeway. hide the layer with the still and export only the cloned area as an unmatted png or tiff (with alpha). import your video clip and cover up image into after effects, make sure everything looks ok, and re-export the video. as someone suggested earlier, if the spot is in motion, you can use the motion tracking tool in after effects to have the cover up image follow the highlight around.

in any case, good luck.

Chris Long · May 23rd, 2005, 07:21 AM

HI All
I'm doing a project where I have a jpeg as a background, with a second still moving over it. The background is a picture of a rusted surface; the still with the motion controls applied is a picture of my hand with a sanding block in it. I've applied motion controls to make it look like I'm sanding the rusted surface...

The problem is this: the picture of my hand has terrible jagged horizontal lines along its edges. This effect is more pronounced the more exaggerated the movement--the harder the hand sands, the more jaggedy the edges look. When it is briefly at rest in the sequence, the edges look normal. I've tried to apply all the options in the "Field Options" dropdown box, but they have no effect.

I've tried both .tiff and .psd versions of the hand picture, and the result is the same either way.

I didn't notice this when I was originally doing it because I had the monitor pretty small; when I made it bigger to see how the sequence looked, the jagged edges became apparent....

Why is this? How can I correct it?

Adam Kampia · May 23rd, 2005, 09:37 AM

Does the problem persist when you render/export? Can you view playback on an external monitor?

When you say you tried all field options, have you tried just "deinterlace"?

What is the resolution of the hand still image, and has it been scaled at all in Premiere?

If all else fails, try dropping a gaussian blur filter on the hand still, leave it set to zero, and see if thee is a difference.

May 17th, 2005, 05:43 AM	#917
Frode Flobak New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Namsos, Norway Posts: 12	a narrow Monitor view in PPro 1.5 Did I unawarely alter something in my Monitor window? In the Source view the scene/ picture is downscaled horisontally, with a black bar on each side, while in the Project view the picture is normally scaled. I can’t find the reason for this, and I cannot remember it was like this before. Maybe something I changed somewhere? Any suggestions or help?

May 20th, 2005, 06:45 AM	#919
Chris J Martin New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18	help with overlay edits please Hello everyone, I have what I assume to be a simple problem. Using premiere pro 7 and dragging a clip down onto the timeline, placing it over another clip in video 1, I assumed was an overlay edit which should replace the video footage with the drag and drop footage but keep the audio from the original footage on the timeline. What I get is the original footage cut away and replaced with the drag and drop video and audio. How do I just overlay the new video IE: cut it in but still retain the original audio ? Thankyou

May 20th, 2005, 08:41 PM	#922
Joe Mobic Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baltimore Posts: 31	eradicating a light spot The scene is two people talking to each other side by side at a table with a white glossy chalkboard (but it uses eraseable markers to write on) behind them. The light hits it in a way that it has this sunlike highlight right over the heads and behind the two people. Its a relatively small spot, however it needs to be taken out. Is there a way in Premiere 1.5 to eliminate this light spot?

May 21st, 2005, 05:43 PM	#925
Gustavo Godinho Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Belém - Pa - Brazil Posts: 130	Moving clips: help Hi guys, I´m having a problem with my Premiere Pro 1.0. When I move a clip to another track, only the audio or the video goes up and down. Ex: I place the clip called “my little brother.avi” on the track 1 of the timeline. I click the video of that clip and try to move it to the superior track (video 2). It moves, but the audio stays on audio track 1. The audio was supposed to move to audio track 2, but it didn´t. What is it? __________________ lml

May 22nd, 2005, 10:18 AM	#928
Henry Cho Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 516	if that doesn't generate the results you want, i have a suggestion. in after effects (and photoshop), this should be relatively painless. grab a still of the video frame where the highlight is apparent. open the still in photoshop, and on a new layer, use the clone tool or healing brush to hide or bring down the highlight. make sure your clone brush is feathered to give you a little leeway. hide the layer with the still and export only the cloned area as an unmatted png or tiff (with alpha). import your video clip and cover up image into after effects, make sure everything looks ok, and re-export the video. as someone suggested earlier, if the spot is in motion, you can use the motion tracking tool in after effects to have the cover up image follow the highlight around. in any case, good luck. Last edited by Henry Cho; May 23rd, 2005 at 07:11 AM.

May 17th, 2005, 12:45 AM	#916
Xander Christ Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 115	Premiere Pro 1.5.1 handles HDV footage just like regular DV footage. Editing techniques are exactly the same. Plug-ins work almost the same (some plug-ins don't handle HD resolution). Any Premiere Pro book will teach the software. Adobe is using CineForm's HDV software to edit the software. www.cineform.com will show you why it thinks it's the best solution for Premiere Pro.

May 18th, 2005, 10:41 PM	#918
Tim Kolb Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Neenah, WI Posts: 547	I don't know of any on 1.5.1. Mine is focused on v1 with a pdf update on the Focal Press site for v1.5 and Jacob Rosenberg's book is based on v1.5...but 1.5.1 is pretty new in book years... I suspect we'll all have a new crop of tree-killing instruction when the next version hits.

May 20th, 2005, 07:05 AM	#920
Adam Kampia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 58	If you are dragging from the source monitor, the simplest way is to toggle the 3-way switch (has a film icon on it) at the bottom right from "video & Audio" to "video only". You can toggle it once mor if you just wanted the audio, for instance. If working solely in the timeline, you want to Alt + click the video clip to slect it w/o slececting its audio. You can also Alt+click the audio and delet it if you wish.

May 20th, 2005, 12:30 PM	#921
Chris J Martin New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18	Thanks, that was easy ! as you can tell I am a complete beginner

May 21st, 2005, 10:25 AM	#923
Jeff dePascale New Boot Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11	Cleanly? maybe enough that you wont really notice it too much...what you could do, if it is a stationary shot, is duplicate the clip, put it again in layer two, use the crop tool to select only the highlight area, apply a luminosity key until only the highlight is selected with a feathered edge, then apply after that a level adjustment effect and play with that until it matches. Of course, if the shot moves it'll be really hard...just make sure you apply the luminosity key before the levels effect, or it wont work right. Once it is done you can also adjust the opacity of the video 2 track to look a little more natural. Hope that helps.

May 21st, 2005, 12:48 PM	#924
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	if the spot moves, you can look into motion tracking with after effects to get rid of it.

May 21st, 2005, 06:26 PM	#926
Adam Kampia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 58	That's actually the way Premiere is set up. You can manually move the audio clip down to track 2 as well. Often, folks don't want the audio clip to keep moving down, and thus farther away from its linked video. Often the video clips being inserted to video 1 are just jumpbacks or something with no audio anyway.

May 21st, 2005, 08:02 PM	#927
Tim Kolb Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Neenah, WI Posts: 547	There are numerous ways to deal with the situation, but the key is to use the video itself as the source as you can match action... i might try putting the video directly over itself on a higher track and choosing "Invert" and creating a black spot where the white spot is...if you crank up the contrast, you may be able to isolate the area alone and use a "reverse" luminance key with some reduced opacity to take that area down a bit...

May 23rd, 2005, 07:21 AM	#929
Chris Long Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Middletown, Maryland USA Posts: 177	Edges of Stills have Jagged Horizontal Lines when Motion Controls are Applied HI All I'm doing a project where I have a jpeg as a background, with a second still moving over it. The background is a picture of a rusted surface; the still with the motion controls applied is a picture of my hand with a sanding block in it. I've applied motion controls to make it look like I'm sanding the rusted surface... The problem is this: the picture of my hand has terrible jagged horizontal lines along its edges. This effect is more pronounced the more exaggerated the movement--the harder the hand sands, the more jaggedy the edges look. When it is briefly at rest in the sequence, the edges look normal. I've tried to apply all the options in the "Field Options" dropdown box, but they have no effect. I've tried both .tiff and .psd versions of the hand picture, and the result is the same either way. I didn't notice this when I was originally doing it because I had the monitor pretty small; when I made it bigger to see how the sequence looked, the jagged edges became apparent.... Why is this? How can I correct it?

May 23rd, 2005, 09:37 AM	#930
Adam Kampia Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 58	Does the problem persist when you render/export? Can you view playback on an external monitor? When you say you tried all field options, have you tried just "deinterlace"? What is the resolution of the hand still image, and has it been scaled at all in Premiere? If all else fails, try dropping a gaussian blur filter on the hand still, leave it set to zero, and see if thee is a difference.