Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

Nathan Taylor · April 27th, 2005, 07:33 AM

Hi everyone.

I have a system running premiere 6.5 and am about to upgrade to Premiere pro 1.5.
My question is, can my old projects ive saved on my video drive in 6.5 be recognized in premiere pro?

If so - can i continue to edit them in pro 1.5?

Thanx :)

Christopher Lefchik · April 27th, 2005, 09:31 AM

Yes, you can open your old projects in Premiere Pro. It will convert them to the new project format, and you will then be able to continue editing them.

Christopher Lefchik · April 27th, 2005, 09:35 AM

The project manager was present in Premiere 6 and 6.5. I don't know if it was in earlier versions. When Premiere Pro was rewritten from the ground up it wasn't included in version 1, but came back with more features than the earlier project manager in Premiere Pro 1.5. It's a very handy feature, I must say.

Christopher Lefchik · April 27th, 2005, 09:38 AM

Robert, I answered your post in the "Non-linear DV Editing on the PC" section. Please post in only one section. It makes it easier for everyone to keep track of the replies. Thanks!

Dave Ferdinand · April 27th, 2005, 11:36 AM

Also, some of the effects have now changed in PPro, but there's backwards compatibility.

However, when changing from 6 to PPro, I realized that some video effects wouldn't work properly. But I would say 95% do.

Dave Ferdinand · April 27th, 2005, 12:04 PM

Does anyone know how to adjust the color by tonal range?

That is, choose yellows (or whatever) and adjust their hue/saturation?

I know there is control for shadows/midtones/highlights but I haven't found a way to adjust by tone - pretty much like Photoshop does.

Johan Manders · April 27th, 2005, 12:17 PM

I don't work with Premiere Pro, but I don't think PPro has secondary color correction.
You can use plugins like Color Finesse.

Brandon Greenlee · April 27th, 2005, 02:37 PM

I don't believe Adobe Premiere has these capabilities yet.

If I remember correctly only Quicktime Pro allows you to do this. Since Final Cut is based on Quicktime - you might also be able to do it through Final Cut as well - but don't hold me to that.

Christopher Lefchik · April 27th, 2005, 03:04 PM

Premiere Pro can do it if you choose QuickTime as the format, at which point you can pick MPEG-4 as the codec. I don't know if this is possible in Premiere 6.5. My suggestion is to check your export options.

Just a word of warning. The QuickTime MPEG-4 codec is not very good. I ended up using Nero Recode (part of the Nero 6 suite), which did a much better job. It's close to the quality of the Sorenson MPEG-4 codec. The drawback is that the file Nero Recode creates can't be streamed.

Dan Euritt · April 27th, 2005, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Cecotka

Hello,

How can I create mgeg4 or 2 with MP3 sound track with Adobe 6.5

you are trying to do this in order to upload a vid clip to the new google video search engine... afaik, it ain't gonna happen, because that combo of formats is not legal anywhere, so the software programs won't allow it.

imho, those silly requirements are a major boondoggle for google... i spent several hours hacking thru procoder, sorenson squeeze 4, quicktime, womble, etc., and none of 'em would output what google wants.

if you know of another program that will combine those formats without re-encoding anything, please post it.

Glen Chua · April 27th, 2005, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Gotz

Sure! It is called "Adobe After Effects".

Seriously, there may be third party plugins, but I have not seen any for the effect you require.

I have Adobe After Effects, but it has a steep learning curve and I haven't had the time to learn it yet. Also, Adobe After Effects is not a third party plugin.

Cory Fehl · April 27th, 2005, 04:29 PM

Borris FX and Graphiti have some cool plug in text effects and AE has some good text effects built in now. One thing we have found very usefull and I dont know if many people realize you can do this but in Premeire pro you can apply most all transitions and effects to titles. So yes it is possible to make titles like that in Premeire useing key frames and transitions like stretch in and others, I have even used matrox old movie effect on titles for easy motion effects. Just gotta get creative and it takes a little time, but it sure beats having to go to AE.

Hope that helps.

Christopher Lefchik · April 27th, 2005, 05:52 PM

Quote:

if you know of another program that will combine those formats without re-encoding anything, please post it.

Check out mp4UI (http://mp4ui.sourceforge.net) and GPAC (http://gpac.sourceforge.net/index.php). One or the other might be able to do that.

Mike Cecotka · April 27th, 2005, 06:22 PM

Dan,

Yes it's for google
it looks like you did all hard work

I'm going to contact google directly.

Christopher,

I downloaded mp4UI (http://mp4ui.sourceforge.net) but I can't open avi file just mpeg4 format.

Thanks for all clues
Mike

Steven Gotz · April 27th, 2005, 07:14 PM

I was kidding - note the "Seriously" beginning the next section. After Effects is better than any simple plugin.

In After Effects 6.5 they included text presets for animations. You type in the text directly into the comp window, and assign a preset. The presets are all on the help file, in full motion.

April 27th, 2005, 07:33 AM	#766
Nathan Taylor New Boot Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 19	Premiere 6.5 works in PPro? Hi everyone. I have a system running premiere 6.5 and am about to upgrade to Premiere pro 1.5. My question is, can my old projects ive saved on my video drive in 6.5 be recognized in premiere pro? If so - can i continue to edit them in pro 1.5? Thanx :)

April 27th, 2005, 11:36 AM	#770
Dave Ferdinand Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 359	Also, some of the effects have now changed in PPro, but there's backwards compatibility. However, when changing from 6 to PPro, I realized that some video effects wouldn't work properly. But I would say 95% do. __________________ Do or do not, there is no try.

April 27th, 2005, 12:04 PM	#771
Dave Ferdinand Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 359	advanced color correction in PPro Does anyone know how to adjust the color by tonal range? That is, choose yellows (or whatever) and adjust their hue/saturation? I know there is control for shadows/midtones/highlights but I haven't found a way to adjust by tone - pretty much like Photoshop does. __________________ Do or do not, there is no try.

April 27th, 2005, 02:37 PM	#773
Brandon Greenlee Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North Alabama Posts: 242	I don't believe Adobe Premiere has these capabilities yet. If I remember correctly only Quicktime Pro allows you to do this. Since Final Cut is based on Quicktime - you might also be able to do it through Final Cut as well - but don't hold me to that. __________________ Brandon Greenlee

April 27th, 2005, 04:29 PM	#777
Cory Fehl Tourist Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2	Effects Borris FX and Graphiti have some cool plug in text effects and AE has some good text effects built in now. One thing we have found very usefull and I dont know if many people realize you can do this but in Premeire pro you can apply most all transitions and effects to titles. So yes it is possible to make titles like that in Premeire useing key frames and transitions like stretch in and others, I have even used matrox old movie effect on titles for easy motion effects. Just gotta get creative and it takes a little time, but it sure beats having to go to AE. Hope that helps.

April 27th, 2005, 09:31 AM	#767
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	Yes, you can open your old projects in Premiere Pro. It will convert them to the new project format, and you will then be able to continue editing them.

April 27th, 2005, 09:35 AM	#768
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	The project manager was present in Premiere 6 and 6.5. I don't know if it was in earlier versions. When Premiere Pro was rewritten from the ground up it wasn't included in version 1, but came back with more features than the earlier project manager in Premiere Pro 1.5. It's a very handy feature, I must say.

April 27th, 2005, 09:38 AM	#769
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	Robert, I answered your post in the "Non-linear DV Editing on the PC" section. Please post in only one section. It makes it easier for everyone to keep track of the replies. Thanks!

April 27th, 2005, 12:17 PM	#772
Johan Manders Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 50	I don't work with Premiere Pro, but I don't think PPro has secondary color correction. You can use plugins like Color Finesse.

April 27th, 2005, 03:04 PM	#774
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	Premiere Pro can do it if you choose QuickTime as the format, at which point you can pick MPEG-4 as the codec. I don't know if this is possible in Premiere 6.5. My suggestion is to check your export options. Just a word of warning. The QuickTime MPEG-4 codec is not very good. I ended up using Nero Recode (part of the Nero 6 suite), which did a much better job. It's close to the quality of the Sorenson MPEG-4 codec. The drawback is that the file Nero Recode creates can't be streamed.

April 27th, 2005, 06:22 PM	#779
Mike Cecotka Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 53	Dan, Yes it's for google it looks like you did all hard work I'm going to contact google directly. Christopher, I downloaded mp4UI (http://mp4ui.sourceforge.net) but I can't open avi file just mpeg4 format. Thanks for all clues Mike

April 27th, 2005, 07:14 PM	#780
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	I was kidding - note the "Seriously" beginning the next section. After Effects is better than any simple plugin. In After Effects 6.5 they included text presets for animations. You type in the text directly into the comp window, and assign a preset. The presets are all on the help file, in full motion. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com