Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

Steven Gotz · January 30th, 2005, 07:08 PM

My guess is that you are using the preset for HDV which includes 5.1 sound. Use that preset. I do. But you must change the audio to stereo instead of 5.1.

No need to use Squeeze. I am getting great results from the Adobe Media Encoder using Stereo.

You can also export to Cineform AVI and use the Microsoft encoder. But there really is no need to do so.

I am playing the WM9 files on my AVeL Linkplayer2 HD DVD player. They look great.

Rob Lohman · January 31st, 2005, 04:34 AM

John: I have no idea personally, I've never heard of it being a good
encoder. That doesn't mean it isn't, just that I know about the
3 I listed above. They seem to be generally accepted as the
best encoders around (for pro-sumer work).

Clint: yeah, it's solely for encoding to all kind of formats (including
MPEG-2). Thanks for the compliment <g>

Dan Euritt · January 31st, 2005, 07:27 PM

i believe that sorenson squeeze 4 uses the mainconcept encoder(?).

John Britt · January 31st, 2005, 07:38 PM

In Premiere 6.5 it was very easy: right-click on the audio track and choose "duplicate left" or "duplicate right."

In P Pro I can't find any easy way of doing this. You can separate stereo tracks into 2 mono tracks, but only from the project window -- not from within the timeline once you've started editing.

The only workaround I've come up with is to export the audio from the edited clips, then separate the stereo tracks from this version to 2 mono tracks, keep the track I want, then re-export that as its own audio track (because P Pro will only seem to let me place the split mono channels on track 4)

Any advice on making this less complicated? I don't understand why Adobe dropped something so simple, yet functional -- or was I the only person using it? This is very frustrating, as I often record audio to only one channel (or, as with the video I'm having problems with now, record a lav on one channel and a shotgun on the other).

David Yuen · January 31st, 2005, 08:07 PM

Audio Effects -> Stereo -> Fill Left, Fill Right

Check the Help to make sure you're using it correctly.

John Britt · January 31st, 2005, 10:16 PM

Hmmm... one of the first things I tried, but it didn't seem to help... but as you said, perhaps I did not use it correctly. Thanks, I'll try it and let you know...

David Yuen · January 31st, 2005, 10:20 PM

I regularly use the Fill Left/Right for the same reason. I also shoot with two microphones, or I set the volume levels differently with one microphone so in case one channel gets overloaded, the other channel is still safely under.

Andrew Oh · February 1st, 2005, 03:00 AM

Hello,

I imported my 16:9 XL2 footage into PP and it works perfectly until I apply video effects. When I render, the video plays as 4:3 footage (meaning my picture is squeed). Anyone else have any experience with this? Any help is very appreciated.

John Britt · February 1st, 2005, 04:36 PM

Seems to work -- I think I was doing something wrong before. Thanks for your help, David!

David Yuen · February 1st, 2005, 05:44 PM

Glad to hear it worked and I hope you've wondered along with me why "Fill Left" means "Fill from Left" instead of "Fill the Left channel".

John Britt · February 1st, 2005, 06:51 PM

Heh, heh -- that's exactly why I didn't think it worked before! I dropped in "Fill Left" and said, "Hey, that's not any better at all! Must not be what I'm looking for..."

Nick Viscio · February 2nd, 2005, 10:57 AM

When editing projects in the 2:1 anamorphic project setting, and then importing clips and interpreting them as 2:1 anamorphic, preview and project monitors show the correct aspect ratio except for when effects are applied. Simple dissolve transitions kick back into 4x3 for the duration of the transition, and then switch back to the correct aspect ratio when they are finished. Any advice?

Nick Viscio · February 2nd, 2005, 11:01 AM

Problem is with Pro 1.5. Works fine in 6.5. NV

Joshua Provost · February 2nd, 2005, 11:13 AM

Have you tried outputting to an AVI file? Maybe the preview uses the original aspect ratio for performance reasons, but the render will be correct?

Nick Viscio · February 2nd, 2005, 11:22 AM

Thanks for your response Joshua,
The output rendering is fine in AVI. The visual "banging" in and out of anamorphic is very problematic in the timeline mode. A point of interest is that in 16:9, everything stays constant. It's as though they left out a calculation for the 2:1 setting. I've searched high and low for the switch but so far, no luck.

Nick

January 31st, 2005, 04:34 AM	#272
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	John: I have no idea personally, I've never heard of it being a good encoder. That doesn't mean it isn't, just that I know about the 3 I listed above. They seem to be generally accepted as the best encoders around (for pro-sumer work). Clint: yeah, it's solely for encoding to all kind of formats (including MPEG-2). Thanks for the compliment <g> __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 31st, 2005, 07:38 PM	#274
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	How to duplicate audio channels in Premiere Pro? In Premiere 6.5 it was very easy: right-click on the audio track and choose "duplicate left" or "duplicate right." In P Pro I can't find any easy way of doing this. You can separate stereo tracks into 2 mono tracks, but only from the project window -- not from within the timeline once you've started editing. The only workaround I've come up with is to export the audio from the edited clips, then separate the stereo tracks from this version to 2 mono tracks, keep the track I want, then re-export that as its own audio track (because P Pro will only seem to let me place the split mono channels on track 4) Any advice on making this less complicated? I don't understand why Adobe dropped something so simple, yet functional -- or was I the only person using it? This is very frustrating, as I often record audio to only one channel (or, as with the video I'm having problems with now, record a lav on one channel and a shotgun on the other).

January 31st, 2005, 08:07 PM	#275
David Yuen Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 185	Fill Left or Fill Right Audio Effects -> Stereo -> Fill Left, Fill Right Check the Help to make sure you're using it correctly.

January 31st, 2005, 10:20 PM	#277
David Yuen Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 185	I use it regularly I regularly use the Fill Left/Right for the same reason. I also shoot with two microphones, or I set the volume levels differently with one microphone so in case one channel gets overloaded, the other channel is still safely under.

February 1st, 2005, 03:00 AM	#278
Andrew Oh Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 86	16:9 24PA footage becomes 4:3 after effects are applied Hello, I imported my 16:9 XL2 footage into PP and it works perfectly until I apply video effects. When I render, the video plays as 4:3 footage (meaning my picture is squeed). Anyone else have any experience with this? Any help is very appreciated.

January 30th, 2005, 07:08 PM	#271
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	My guess is that you are using the preset for HDV which includes 5.1 sound. Use that preset. I do. But you must change the audio to stereo instead of 5.1. No need to use Squeeze. I am getting great results from the Adobe Media Encoder using Stereo. You can also export to Cineform AVI and use the Microsoft encoder. But there really is no need to do so. I am playing the WM9 files on my AVeL Linkplayer2 HD DVD player. They look great.

January 31st, 2005, 07:27 PM	#273
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	i believe that sorenson squeeze 4 uses the mainconcept encoder(?).

January 31st, 2005, 10:16 PM	#276
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	Hmmm... one of the first things I tried, but it didn't seem to help... but as you said, perhaps I did not use it correctly. Thanks, I'll try it and let you know...

February 1st, 2005, 04:36 PM	#279
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	Seems to work -- I think I was doing something wrong before. Thanks for your help, David!

February 1st, 2005, 05:44 PM	#280
David Yuen Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 185	Fill from left Glad to hear it worked and I hope you've wondered along with me why "Fill Left" means "Fill from Left" instead of "Fill the Left channel".

February 1st, 2005, 06:51 PM	#281
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	Heh, heh -- that's exactly why I didn't think it worked before! I dropped in "Fill Left" and said, "Hey, that's not any better at all! Must not be what I'm looking for..."

February 2nd, 2005, 10:57 AM	#282
Nick Viscio Tourist Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Guilderland Center New York Posts: 3	2:1 anamorphic transition problems When editing projects in the 2:1 anamorphic project setting, and then importing clips and interpreting them as 2:1 anamorphic, preview and project monitors show the correct aspect ratio except for when effects are applied. Simple dissolve transitions kick back into 4x3 for the duration of the transition, and then switch back to the correct aspect ratio when they are finished. Any advice?

February 2nd, 2005, 11:01 AM	#283
Nick Viscio Tourist Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Guilderland Center New York Posts: 3	Problem is with Pro 1.5. Works fine in 6.5. NV

February 2nd, 2005, 11:13 AM	#284
Joshua Provost Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 493	Have you tried outputting to an AVI file? Maybe the preview uses the original aspect ratio for performance reasons, but the render will be correct?

February 2nd, 2005, 11:22 AM	#285
Nick Viscio Tourist Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Guilderland Center New York Posts: 3	Thanks for your response Joshua, The output rendering is fine in AVI. The visual "banging" in and out of anamorphic is very problematic in the timeline mode. A point of interest is that in 16:9, everything stays constant. It's as though they left out a calculation for the 2:1 setting. I've searched high and low for the switch but so far, no luck. Nick