Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

Jean-Francois Robichaud · November 8th, 2005, 09:09 AM

The bluriness in vertical flip vs. horizontal flip might have to do with interlacing field orders. Vertical flipping changes the order of the fields and Premiere might have to do some interpolation on the image to display the fields correctly. De-interlacing the video first might fix this, and this would work better with a third party de-interlacer (such as Magic Bullet) than doing it in Premiere. Otherwise, maybe you might try flipping the video in After Effects if you have access to it.

But I might be wrong...

Jean-Francois Robichaud · November 8th, 2005, 09:17 AM

If your aiff have a long duration, it might take some time for PPRO to conform the audio, and the file won't play until this is done. Check on the right part of the status bar for a "Conforming Audio" message.

If that's not it, it might just be that a camcorder is connected to your PC. By default, Premiere disables audio from the timeline to the PC speakers when it detects a firewire connection; audio only plays on the camcorder. You can change that behaviour in the preferences.

Nicholas Foster · November 8th, 2005, 01:04 PM

The old Adobe Premiere used to have a storyboard feature where you could lay out your clips in a window and then export the sequence to the timeline with any chosen transition in between. I can't seem to find this same feature anywhere in Pro. Is it gone, or am I just not seeing it? The reason I ask is because I'm doing a photo montage for a customer and that feature makes the process alot easier.
Thanks

Nicholas Foster · November 8th, 2005, 01:26 PM

Nevermind that. I found it right after the post. Thanks anyways.

Benjamin Durin · November 8th, 2005, 09:57 PM

One possibility is your microphone is not muted for playback in Windows.
You can check this in the Volume Control window (double click on the speaker icon in the taskbar).

Benjamin Durin · November 8th, 2005, 10:19 PM

When you encode the video for Flash (I am talking about Flash 8 here, not sure for the others), you will have the possibility to add cue points. And these cue points will trigger events in Flash, for example displaying text...

Erica Concolino · November 8th, 2005, 10:32 PM

Yeah, I knew that I had to wait for it, and that wasn't the case. Its only a 2 min aiff file, which shouldn't cause any problems. And I don't have a camcorder connected either. I had initially accessed the file via an external hard drive, but thought maybe I would have better luck if I copied the files to my desktop, then imported the files. Unfortunately, the same thing happened. I also updated quicktime, thinking maybe the codecs were missing, but that didn't do anything either. I'm really just totally dumbfounded about this one.

Graham Risdon · November 8th, 2005, 10:52 PM

Hi Erica
If it were me, I'd try bringing the AIFF file into another editor - Cool Edit, Audition etc and exporting it out as a WAV file. I've found Premiere (v6.5)likes those best. The other problem I found was with differing sample rates - Premiere likes to have all audio at the same sample rate for a project i.e 48kHz, 44.1kHz etc so it may be worth checking the files to make sure the sample rate is the same (N.B it may be that Ppro's "conform" feature sorts this out...
Hope this helps

Graham

Graham Risdon · November 8th, 2005, 10:59 PM

Hi Joe
I may have the worng end of the stick here, but it seems your post concerns images being cropped when you bring them into Premiere. If you're viewing them on a video monitor (rather than a PC monitor) it could be that video monitors overscan and chop off the edges of images anyway. Does it crop them in the monitor window on the PC screen?
I always do all my stills work in photoshop (I have a plugin that allows me to preview Photoshop output on a video monitor) and don't have problems.
Hope this helps

Graham

Rick Step · November 9th, 2005, 12:43 AM

I will be working with flash 8. Will I encode the video and then, in flash, add these cue points? I can't do this from premiere before the encode right?

Also, I am new to going from premiere to flash. Does Flash Studio 8 give you a plugin or some way to encode straight to flash from premiere...do i have to go to quicktime first? Whats the best way of doing this?

Rick

Aanarav Sareen · November 9th, 2005, 09:35 AM

Rick,
To accomplish this task, you will need Flash 8 and not Premiere Pro. You need to export your file from Premiere Pro as an AVI or MOV (or a bunch of other formats), then open up the Flash Video Encoder > Encode your file > Import into flash and add the trigger points.

Jay Handleson · November 9th, 2005, 12:41 PM

Well I've just been retained to shoot upcoming Cheerleading competitions with three cameras. I've got two events to shoot and edit before 12/20.

Now come on Adobe, release 2.0 so I can upgrade to the new version and not have to purchase United Media Multicam as well. Cause I know you're going to have multicam in 2.0, right?

I guess I'll give them till late next week and then I'll have no choice but to give UM my hard earned money.

JayH

Rick Step · November 10th, 2005, 09:20 AM

Thanks,

We just got in our copy of flash so I'm going to try it.

Rick

Jimmy McKenzie · November 10th, 2005, 03:20 PM

I think the cable might be the culprit ... try a known good 6 footer... the easy trouble shoot is to attempt again with your xl1 and the deck... As to why only the XL2 allows for a clean transfer is odd ... it should also be suspect if the cable was too long / defective...

Rick Step · November 10th, 2005, 04:35 PM

Ok, here's what I've discovered so far.

I can export directly to flash video from after effects. I just open my premiere clip in AE and that's that. However, I'm editing the footage in 720x480 and I need to export the video to 360x240.

When I resize the output in AE, it just crops. Same thing when I resize the video in the timeline. Anyone got a solution here?

I can export to a smaller screen size with Quicktime from Premiere, but I'm prepping for a big job and being able to cut out that step would be nice.

Do they make a plugin that allows you to go straight from PPro to Flash?

Rick

November 8th, 2005, 01:04 PM	#1833
Nicholas Foster Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 47	storyboard feature The old Adobe Premiere used to have a storyboard feature where you could lay out your clips in a window and then export the sequence to the timeline with any chosen transition in between. I can't seem to find this same feature anywhere in Pro. Is it gone, or am I just not seeing it? The reason I ask is because I'm doing a photo montage for a customer and that feature makes the process alot easier. Thanks

November 9th, 2005, 09:35 AM	#1841
Aanarav Sareen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NJ, US Posts: 183	Rick, To accomplish this task, you will need Flash 8 and not Premiere Pro. You need to export your file from Premiere Pro as an AVI or MOV (or a bunch of other formats), then open up the Flash Video Encoder > Encode your file > Import into flash and add the trigger points. __________________ http://www.sareen.tv

November 9th, 2005, 12:41 PM	#1842
Jay Handleson Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 35	To Multicam or not to Multicam? Well I've just been retained to shoot upcoming Cheerleading competitions with three cameras. I've got two events to shoot and edit before 12/20. Now come on Adobe, release 2.0 so I can upgrade to the new version and not have to purchase United Media Multicam as well. Cause I know you're going to have multicam in 2.0, right? I guess I'll give them till late next week and then I'll have no choice but to give UM my hard earned money. JayH

November 8th, 2005, 09:09 AM	#1831
Jean-Francois Robichaud Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 142	The bluriness in vertical flip vs. horizontal flip might have to do with interlacing field orders. Vertical flipping changes the order of the fields and Premiere might have to do some interpolation on the image to display the fields correctly. De-interlacing the video first might fix this, and this would work better with a third party de-interlacer (such as Magic Bullet) than doing it in Premiere. Otherwise, maybe you might try flipping the video in After Effects if you have access to it. But I might be wrong...

November 8th, 2005, 09:17 AM	#1832
Jean-Francois Robichaud Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 142	If your aiff have a long duration, it might take some time for PPRO to conform the audio, and the file won't play until this is done. Check on the right part of the status bar for a "Conforming Audio" message. If that's not it, it might just be that a camcorder is connected to your PC. By default, Premiere disables audio from the timeline to the PC speakers when it detects a firewire connection; audio only plays on the camcorder. You can change that behaviour in the preferences.

November 8th, 2005, 01:26 PM	#1834
Nicholas Foster Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 47	Nevermind that. I found it right after the post. Thanks anyways.

November 8th, 2005, 09:57 PM	#1835
Benjamin Durin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 212	One possibility is your microphone is not muted for playback in Windows. You can check this in the Volume Control window (double click on the speaker icon in the taskbar).

November 8th, 2005, 10:19 PM	#1836
Benjamin Durin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 212	When you encode the video for Flash (I am talking about Flash 8 here, not sure for the others), you will have the possibility to add cue points. And these cue points will trigger events in Flash, for example displaying text...

November 8th, 2005, 10:32 PM	#1837
Erica Concolino Tourist Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 3	Yeah, I knew that I had to wait for it, and that wasn't the case. Its only a 2 min aiff file, which shouldn't cause any problems. And I don't have a camcorder connected either. I had initially accessed the file via an external hard drive, but thought maybe I would have better luck if I copied the files to my desktop, then imported the files. Unfortunately, the same thing happened. I also updated quicktime, thinking maybe the codecs were missing, but that didn't do anything either. I'm really just totally dumbfounded about this one.

November 8th, 2005, 10:52 PM	#1838
Graham Risdon Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wiltshire, UK Posts: 192	Hi Erica If it were me, I'd try bringing the AIFF file into another editor - Cool Edit, Audition etc and exporting it out as a WAV file. I've found Premiere (v6.5)likes those best. The other problem I found was with differing sample rates - Premiere likes to have all audio at the same sample rate for a project i.e 48kHz, 44.1kHz etc so it may be worth checking the files to make sure the sample rate is the same (N.B it may be that Ppro's "conform" feature sorts this out... Hope this helps Graham

November 8th, 2005, 10:59 PM	#1839
Graham Risdon Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wiltshire, UK Posts: 192	Hi Joe I may have the worng end of the stick here, but it seems your post concerns images being cropped when you bring them into Premiere. If you're viewing them on a video monitor (rather than a PC monitor) it could be that video monitors overscan and chop off the edges of images anyway. Does it crop them in the monitor window on the PC screen? I always do all my stills work in photoshop (I have a plugin that allows me to preview Photoshop output on a video monitor) and don't have problems. Hope this helps Graham

November 9th, 2005, 12:43 AM	#1840
Rick Step Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 62	I will be working with flash 8. Will I encode the video and then, in flash, add these cue points? I can't do this from premiere before the encode right? Also, I am new to going from premiere to flash. Does Flash Studio 8 give you a plugin or some way to encode straight to flash from premiere...do i have to go to quicktime first? Whats the best way of doing this? Rick

November 10th, 2005, 09:20 AM	#1843
Rick Step Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 62	Thanks, We just got in our copy of flash so I'm going to try it. Rick

November 10th, 2005, 03:20 PM	#1844
Jimmy McKenzie Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Waterloo Ontario Posts: 721	I think the cable might be the culprit ... try a known good 6 footer... the easy trouble shoot is to attempt again with your xl1 and the deck... As to why only the XL2 allows for a clean transfer is odd ... it should also be suspect if the cable was too long / defective...

November 10th, 2005, 04:35 PM	#1845
Rick Step Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 62	Ok, here's what I've discovered so far. I can export directly to flash video from after effects. I just open my premiere clip in AE and that's that. However, I'm editing the footage in 720x480 and I need to export the video to 360x240. When I resize the output in AE, it just crops. Same thing when I resize the video in the timeline. Anyone got a solution here? I can export to a smaller screen size with Quicktime from Premiere, but I'm prepping for a big job and being able to cut out that step would be nice. Do they make a plugin that allows you to go straight from PPro to Flash? Rick