Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

James Emory · October 31st, 2005, 03:48 AM

If you are already familiar with this, please forgive me. Since this info was so hard to find I had to post it to help others. I looked all over Adobe's site for the page below and couldn't find it. The link is in the device control menu within Premiere, brilliant Adobe........dumbasses!

I don't normally use device control and was never able to get Premiere 6.5 on my laptop to control my DV-2000 deck. Well, after trying all options in the menu in Premiere including DV-1000, standard, generic and alternates 1-5, I noticed the edit knob on my deck that I had never used. I don't know why the DV-2000 is not in the menu or listed on Adobe's site as a compatible device. Near the firewire port, the deck has a knob with 6 positions and two that are a position apart and are labeled Edit and DV. The others are blank but probably serve a purpose with other different devices and/or software. Anyway, I tried DV-1000, standard, generic and alternates 1-5 in Premiere's device control menu and set the deck knob to DV and...... I was controlling the deck remotely! So, not having the knob set to DV on the deck is what the problem was the whole time. I still won't use remote control that much but I am happy to see that something in Premiere is working properly.

Device Control - once there, scroll down to find your device compatibility
www.adobe.com/products/premiere/dvhdwrdb.html

Shaughan Flynn · October 31st, 2005, 08:33 AM

Last night I exported my short to MPG2-DVD from Premiere 1.5.1. I then took it into the Sony DVD authoring package, whipped up a quick menu and then burned it to a DVD-RW.

I fired it up on my progressive scan DVD player that is feeding my 30" HDTV set via component video. Everything looked GREAT! Except for the credit crawl at the end. The text looks terrible. On the PC in WM9, it's smooth as silk and looks great. Part of the credits involve panels that fade in and fade out and these are followed by the crawl. The text in those panels looks perfect. Only the crawl has issues.

Can anyone shed any light here?

Shaughan Flynn · October 31st, 2005, 08:36 AM

I have DivX Pro that I purchased from the vendor and installed. When I run Sherlock, it shows all of the DivX codecs as installed and working. When I try to encode to the DivX format from Premiere, the codec does not show up.

I select Microsoft AVI or DV AVI and in the Codec list is all of my codecs EXCEPT for the DivX one.

Anyone have any idea why this might be?

TIA!

Ken E. Williams · October 31st, 2005, 10:46 AM

Just a thought, but in Premiere did you set optimize stills?

Shaughan Flynn · October 31st, 2005, 11:39 AM

Hmmmm, not sure. I will check that tonight :)

Rick Step · October 31st, 2005, 01:40 PM

Hey,

I can't search the forums for some reason (I'm using firefox) so sorry if this quesiton has already been answered.

Here's my problem. I have a feature length documentary that I've been working on for quite some time. I am working off quite a few external hard drives and now when I open the project, most of the audio is not there. The block where it's supposed to be is there, but it's blank. A few music tracks are still there and some of the audio linked to video is there, but the rest isn't showing up. I've checked all the captured video and the audio plays fine when I open it in quicktime. Anyone know what's going on?

Rick

David Lach · October 31st, 2005, 03:17 PM

I just upgraded my system recently. Got a Pentium D dual core 2.8Ghz after certification from the salesman that Adobe products were optimized for this (dual CPUs). Also got 1024Mb of memory (two 512Mb working in tandem). Motherboard is an Asus P5Ld2.

Now when I try to export to DVD, I get "out of memory" errors. For a 100min. project, PPro (1.5) will just create a 200Mb (or just about) m2v file and then continue with the ac3 audio. Then it performs the assembly with this bogus video file and gives me an "out of memory" error and stops.

Tried to export an MPEG2 file too. Same result. I get a "Adobe Premiere Pro failed to return a video frame. Cancelling the operation" error message. Is my work trapped in a PPro timeline forever? Half-kidding of course, since I'm able to export a DV file (thank god).

Now what the hell is this? Yes, an other bug, they come a dime a dozen with this crappy piece of software (sorry for the short fuse but this is not the first time I experience a head scratcher of this kind in PPro, especially when working with 24p), but does anybody here have already experienced this? Found a workaround solution? Any ideas as to what or where I should be looking? I'm desperate. This editing software is eating at my sleep time and my client is anxiously waiting for his DVD. For crying out loud I just want to get this on DVD, it shouldn't be that complicated!

Shaughan Flynn · October 31st, 2005, 03:25 PM

The "Adobe Premiere Pro failed to return a video frame." error is one that I would get when I would maximise PP1.5 and then minimize it using the little pop-up window that shows the rendering progress when I was outputting video. I got much better results when I kept my damn hands off the app while it did it's thing.

I know, seems weird, but that is what happened.

Pete Bauer · October 31st, 2005, 05:09 PM

This might help (same solution in both threads):

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=36022
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=39156

If it doesn't work, let us know.

Pete Bauer · October 31st, 2005, 05:29 PM

Could be other problems like unusual source audio format or something, but chances are the audio IS there in PPro, but is being conformed to 32 bit which apparently can take a while for long clips. Check out the recommendations in this thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=37092

If the issue isn't related to conforming, let us know a little more about file types and settings.

On the DVinfo SEARCH function: this is a glitch from a recent software upgrade; the webmeister is working on it. I've found that I CAN still search from the main page: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf

Shaughan Flynn · October 31st, 2005, 06:32 PM

There is no "optimize stills" option for the MPEG2-DVD selection.

David Yuen · October 31st, 2005, 10:42 PM

http://www.creativecow.net/articles/...les/index.html

David Lach · November 1st, 2005, 12:50 PM

Ok the MainConcept update worked. Didn't know there was a known problem with dual CPU machines. I'm keeping this Adobe database in my favorites from now on. Thanks for the help. I'll finally get some sleep tonight.

Marco Wagner · November 1st, 2005, 02:01 PM

I created a DVD a while back and mistakenly deleted my project and never created a master AVI file. SO, I pulled the vob files from the DVD and threw them into Premiere. When previewing the files everything works great. As soon as I render or create a test .avi file, the sound is way off and I seem to lose a lot of frames. Any way around this?

Dan Euritt · November 1st, 2005, 05:04 PM

since the pc is of course non-interlaced only, i guess that you want it to look like that on the tv.

how did you render the footage? did you try to de-interlace it at some point? or was it shot in progressive mode?

October 31st, 2005, 03:48 AM	#1756
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Panasonic DV-2000P & Device Control - It finally works! If you are already familiar with this, please forgive me. Since this info was so hard to find I had to post it to help others. I looked all over Adobe's site for the page below and couldn't find it. The link is in the device control menu within Premiere, brilliant Adobe........dumbasses! I don't normally use device control and was never able to get Premiere 6.5 on my laptop to control my DV-2000 deck. Well, after trying all options in the menu in Premiere including DV-1000, standard, generic and alternates 1-5, I noticed the edit knob on my deck that I had never used. I don't know why the DV-2000 is not in the menu or listed on Adobe's site as a compatible device. Near the firewire port, the deck has a knob with 6 positions and two that are a position apart and are labeled Edit and DV. The others are blank but probably serve a purpose with other different devices and/or software. Anyway, I tried DV-1000, standard, generic and alternates 1-5 in Premiere's device control menu and set the deck knob to DV and...... I was controlling the deck remotely! So, not having the knob set to DV on the deck is what the problem was the whole time. I still won't use remote control that much but I am happy to see that something in Premiere is working properly. Device Control - once there, scroll down to find your device compatibility www.adobe.com/products/premiere/dvhdwrdb.html

October 31st, 2005, 08:33 AM	#1757
Shaughan Flynn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 272	Creepy Crawlers Last night I exported my short to MPG2-DVD from Premiere 1.5.1. I then took it into the Sony DVD authoring package, whipped up a quick menu and then burned it to a DVD-RW. I fired it up on my progressive scan DVD player that is feeding my 30" HDTV set via component video. Everything looked GREAT! Except for the credit crawl at the end. The text looks terrible. On the PC in WM9, it's smooth as silk and looks great. Part of the credits involve panels that fade in and fade out and these are followed by the crawl. The text in those panels looks perfect. Only the crawl has issues. Can anyone shed any light here? __________________ B-Scene Films Last edited by Shaughan Flynn; October 31st, 2005 at 11:39 AM.

October 31st, 2005, 08:36 AM	#1758
Shaughan Flynn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 272	The hunt for DivX I have DivX Pro that I purchased from the vendor and installed. When I run Sherlock, it shows all of the DivX codecs as installed and working. When I try to encode to the DivX format from Premiere, the codec does not show up. I select Microsoft AVI or DV AVI and in the Codec list is all of my codecs EXCEPT for the DivX one. Anyone have any idea why this might be? TIA! __________________ B-Scene Films

October 31st, 2005, 11:39 AM	#1760
Shaughan Flynn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 272	Hmmmm, not sure. I will check that tonight :) __________________ B-Scene Films

October 31st, 2005, 01:40 PM	#1761
Rick Step Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 62	No Audio in the Timeline Hey, I can't search the forums for some reason (I'm using firefox) so sorry if this quesiton has already been answered. Here's my problem. I have a feature length documentary that I've been working on for quite some time. I am working off quite a few external hard drives and now when I open the project, most of the audio is not there. The block where it's supposed to be is there, but it's blank. A few music tracks are still there and some of the audio linked to video is there, but the rest isn't showing up. I've checked all the captured video and the audio plays fine when I open it in quicktime. Anyone know what's going on? Rick

October 31st, 2005, 10:46 AM	#1759
Ken E. Williams Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 55	Just a thought, but in Premiere did you set optimize stills?

October 31st, 2005, 03:17 PM	#1762
David Lach Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Posts: 570	DVD export - What is going on here (an other PPro bug)? I just upgraded my system recently. Got a Pentium D dual core 2.8Ghz after certification from the salesman that Adobe products were optimized for this (dual CPUs). Also got 1024Mb of memory (two 512Mb working in tandem). Motherboard is an Asus P5Ld2. Now when I try to export to DVD, I get "out of memory" errors. For a 100min. project, PPro (1.5) will just create a 200Mb (or just about) m2v file and then continue with the ac3 audio. Then it performs the assembly with this bogus video file and gives me an "out of memory" error and stops. Tried to export an MPEG2 file too. Same result. I get a "Adobe Premiere Pro failed to return a video frame. Cancelling the operation" error message. Is my work trapped in a PPro timeline forever? Half-kidding of course, since I'm able to export a DV file (thank god). Now what the hell is this? Yes, an other bug, they come a dime a dozen with this crappy piece of software (sorry for the short fuse but this is not the first time I experience a head scratcher of this kind in PPro, especially when working with 24p), but does anybody here have already experienced this? Found a workaround solution? Any ideas as to what or where I should be looking? I'm desperate. This editing software is eating at my sleep time and my client is anxiously waiting for his DVD. For crying out loud I just want to get this on DVD, it shouldn't be that complicated!

October 31st, 2005, 03:25 PM	#1763
Shaughan Flynn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 272	The "Adobe Premiere Pro failed to return a video frame." error is one that I would get when I would maximise PP1.5 and then minimize it using the little pop-up window that shows the rendering progress when I was outputting video. I got much better results when I kept my damn hands off the app while it did it's thing. I know, seems weird, but that is what happened. __________________ B-Scene Films

October 31st, 2005, 05:09 PM	#1764
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	This might help (same solution in both threads): http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=36022 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=39156 If it doesn't work, let us know. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

October 31st, 2005, 05:29 PM	#1765
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Could be other problems like unusual source audio format or something, but chances are the audio IS there in PPro, but is being conformed to 32 bit which apparently can take a while for long clips. Check out the recommendations in this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=37092 If the issue isn't related to conforming, let us know a little more about file types and settings. On the DVinfo SEARCH function: this is a glitch from a recent software upgrade; the webmeister is working on it. I've found that I CAN still search from the main page: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

October 31st, 2005, 06:32 PM	#1766
Shaughan Flynn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 272	There is no "optimize stills" option for the MPEG2-DVD selection. __________________ B-Scene Films

October 31st, 2005, 10:42 PM	#1767
David Yuen Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 185	Great Titles with the DV codec http://www.creativecow.net/articles/...les/index.html

November 1st, 2005, 12:50 PM	#1768
David Lach Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Posts: 570	Ok the MainConcept update worked. Didn't know there was a known problem with dual CPU machines. I'm keeping this Adobe database in my favorites from now on. Thanks for the help. I'll finally get some sleep tonight.

November 1st, 2005, 02:01 PM	#1769
Marco Wagner Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Saint Cloud, Florida Posts: 1,043	VOBs in Premiere Pro 1.5 I created a DVD a while back and mistakenly deleted my project and never created a master AVI file. SO, I pulled the vob files from the DVD and threw them into Premiere. When previewing the files everything works great. As soon as I render or create a test .avi file, the sound is way off and I seem to lose a lot of frames. Any way around this? __________________ www.facebook.com/projectspecto

November 1st, 2005, 05:04 PM	#1770
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	since the pc is of course non-interlaced only, i guess that you want it to look like that on the tv. how did you render the footage? did you try to de-interlace it at some point? or was it shot in progressive mode?