Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

Gideon Snyman · October 19th, 2005, 12:52 PM

I would have to agree with Noah. CPU Speed, Physical Memory and Drive
transfer speeds would greatly determine overall rendering performance. I use Premiere 1.5 and have noticed no performance increase since my upgrade from a GeForce Ti 4600 to a GeForce GT 6800 128Mb 256Bit. Gaming, 3D Rendering, different story. I have wondered though, would there be any performance increase/benefit over normal CPU etc if an app like Premiere was developed to support rendering via GPU??

Jennifer Graves · October 19th, 2005, 01:29 PM

I would do a search but that feature isn't working right now so I'll just ask.... I want to make some of my videos viewable on the web and would like to export them as a wmv. However, it's only exporting the whole project, not just the work area I have selected..... am I missing something?

Scot McPhie · October 19th, 2005, 03:43 PM

Hi does anyone know is there a way in Premiere 6 or 6.5 to restore the audio portion of a clip to the corresponding piece of video on the time line?

To further explain I have a time line which is fairly messy - all the clips are originally joint video/audio but for one reason or another the audio portions of alot of them were deleted - so I'm wondering is there a command or method to make them re-appear synched in position with their corresponding video portion?

thanks

Scot

Mark Utley · October 19th, 2005, 04:58 PM

Not instantly.

What you could do is create two new video tracks and one new audio, copy the video that's missing audio and paste another directly above it. Expand the copied track on the left so you recover all the way to the beginning of the clip. Then grab the same clip from your clip folder and put a new one on the 2nd video track. Sync it up to the clip below it.

If you cut it to the same lengths as your original clip (the one missing audio), you'll have the audio back. You can then delete the original clip and the copied one, place the new clip in its spot and delete the extra tracks.

Let me know if this didn't make sense.

Saturnin Kondratiew · October 19th, 2005, 06:43 PM

im trying to do the camera shake effect thats included in the package but it keeps screwing up.... it keeps shaking the footage too much and i just dont know how to set it up.
first, the default setting puts the picture in the top left hand corner...wtf???

i dont know how to get that effect to work properly, so it stays in the tv safe area but does the shake..kinda like in fight club and in the rammstein video du hast when the lead singer hits the camera it it has the shake.
help
thanx

Andreas Rylander · October 20th, 2005, 07:42 AM

Thank you so much! =)

I actually was able to solve the problem by capturing with Pinnacles own editing program that followed the card. An obvious solution in retrospect, but it was still your link that made me come to that conclusion =)

Thank you so much, and thanks to all wonderful people on this forum =)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Smith

Here's the thread with my problem over 2 years ago...

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=12880

Good luck,

Jennifer Graves · October 20th, 2005, 03:33 PM

Ok, I got it to convert just the part I wanted, but now when you view it on a website it doesn't show a buffering line or percent, how do you add that on?

Marlon Torres · October 20th, 2005, 08:58 PM

Im having some problems with my color corrected footage, after changing the colors, all the reds become "blocky" and pixelated....what am i doing wrong?

Pete Bauer · October 20th, 2005, 09:14 PM

Blockiness is probably a rendering/compression issue, and if so would have more to do with your NLE than the XL2. I think I recall from previous posts that you use Premiere Pro so I'm moving this thread over to that forum for now.

Here is another thread about red problems attributed to the XL2 that might possibly also turn out to be a rendering issue:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=53035

You'll need to give a lot more information about the files and circumstances (format, data rate, etc), and probably post a short video clip to a web site so people can see the problem.

Ben Winter · October 21st, 2005, 09:50 AM

Download the 1.5.1 update that allows Premiere to work with HD.

Kawai Sin · October 21st, 2005, 12:23 PM

Hi Jen,

Did you try embedding them.

<OBJECT ID="MediaPlayer" WIDTH="192" HEIGHT="190" CLASSID="CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95"
STANDBY="Loading Windows Media Player components..." TYPE="application/x-oleobject">
<PARAM NAME="FileName" VALUE="videofilename.wmv">
<PARAM name="ShowControls" VALUE="true">
<param name="ShowStatusBar" value="false">
<PARAM name="ShowDisplay" VALUE="false">
<PARAM name="autostart" VALUE="false">
<EMBED TYPE="application/x-mplayer2" SRC="videofilename.wmv" NAME="MediaPlayer"
WIDTH="192" HEIGHT="190" ShowControls="1" ShowStatusBar="0" ShowDisplay="0" autostart="0"> </EMBED>
</OBJECT>

here's the code.

Try reading this webpage for more info.

http://www.mediacollege.com/video/fo...dia/streaming/

Cheers

Kawai Sin · October 21st, 2005, 12:34 PM

I'm wondering if there are major difference between 6.5 and Premiere Pro. Aside from the layout and the better title program included. What other reasons are there to make the switch. I'm amateur dv creator and not planning to go HDDV.

Dan Euritt · October 21st, 2005, 04:00 PM

check that class i.d., it might be for an older player(??)... be careful if you change just the class i.d., because sometimes the param's are exclusive to only one class i.d.

it's possible that you won't see any download bar because your embedded player isn't set up to show the control buttons(??).

Shaughan Flynn · October 22nd, 2005, 09:23 AM

In 6.5 you have to render before you can preview. In pro you do not. HUGE advantage IMHO.

Christopher Lefchik · October 22nd, 2005, 02:38 PM

Premiere 6.5 does have the real-time preview capability. From a Macworld review:

"One of our favorite new features in Premiere 6.5 is the program's ability to preview effects, transitions, and filters without having to render them to the hard drive first, which is time-consuming. When Premiere 6.5's Real-Time Preview option is active, you can simply press the return key to preview an effect."

http://www.macworld.com/2002/12/reviews/premiere/

Reading a couple reviews of Premiere 6.5, right off I can spot three features 6.5 lacks compared to Premiere Pro: the powerful color correction filter, waveform/vectorescope, and the multiple sequences (time lines) in one project. I can't say for certain, but Premiere Pro's audio mixing tools are probably better, also.

Premiere Pro's code was rewritten from the ground up, so it is basically a whole new program.

October 19th, 2005, 01:29 PM	#1697
Jennifer Graves Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 53	Premiere 6.5 to .wmv I would do a search but that feature isn't working right now so I'll just ask.... I want to make some of my videos viewable on the web and would like to export them as a wmv. However, it's only exporting the whole project, not just the work area I have selected..... am I missing something?

October 19th, 2005, 03:43 PM	#1698
Scot McPhie Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 27	restoring audio to a video clip Hi does anyone know is there a way in Premiere 6 or 6.5 to restore the audio portion of a clip to the corresponding piece of video on the time line? To further explain I have a time line which is fairly messy - all the clips are originally joint video/audio but for one reason or another the audio portions of alot of them were deleted - so I'm wondering is there a command or method to make them re-appear synched in position with their corresponding video portion? thanks Scot __________________ http://www.mango-a-gogo.com

October 19th, 2005, 04:58 PM	#1699
Mark Utley Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 479	Not instantly. What you could do is create two new video tracks and one new audio, copy the video that's missing audio and paste another directly above it. Expand the copied track on the left so you recover all the way to the beginning of the clip. Then grab the same clip from your clip folder and put a new one on the 2nd video track. Sync it up to the clip below it. If you cut it to the same lengths as your original clip (the one missing audio), you'll have the audio back. You can then delete the original clip and the copied one, place the new clip in its spot and delete the extra tracks. Let me know if this didn't make sense. __________________ Mark Utley

October 19th, 2005, 06:43 PM	#1700
Saturnin Kondratiew Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: vancouver Posts: 310	AE and digieffects delirium camera shake plugin im trying to do the camera shake effect thats included in the package but it keeps screwing up.... it keeps shaking the footage too much and i just dont know how to set it up. first, the default setting puts the picture in the top left hand corner...wtf??? i dont know how to get that effect to work properly, so it stays in the tv safe area but does the shake..kinda like in fight club and in the rammstein video du hast when the lead singer hits the camera it it has the shake. help thanx __________________ My documentaries - http://www.asphaltjunkiez.com

October 20th, 2005, 03:33 PM	#1702
Jennifer Graves Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 53	Buffering Ok, I got it to convert just the part I wanted, but now when you view it on a website it doesn't show a buffering line or percent, how do you add that on?

October 19th, 2005, 12:52 PM	#1696
Gideon Snyman Tourist Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vereeniging, Gauteng, South Africa Posts: 2	I would have to agree with Noah. CPU Speed, Physical Memory and Drive transfer speeds would greatly determine overall rendering performance. I use Premiere 1.5 and have noticed no performance increase since my upgrade from a GeForce Ti 4600 to a GeForce GT 6800 128Mb 256Bit. Gaming, 3D Rendering, different story. I have wondered though, would there be any performance increase/benefit over normal CPU etc if an app like Premiere was developed to support rendering via GPU??

October 20th, 2005, 08:58 PM	#1703
Marlon Torres Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 230	Blocky Reds Im having some problems with my color corrected footage, after changing the colors, all the reds become "blocky" and pixelated....what am i doing wrong?

October 20th, 2005, 09:14 PM	#1704
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Blockiness is probably a rendering/compression issue, and if so would have more to do with your NLE than the XL2. I think I recall from previous posts that you use Premiere Pro so I'm moving this thread over to that forum for now. Here is another thread about red problems attributed to the XL2 that might possibly also turn out to be a rendering issue: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=53035 You'll need to give a lot more information about the files and circumstances (format, data rate, etc), and probably post a short video clip to a web site so people can see the problem. __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

October 21st, 2005, 09:50 AM	#1705
Ben Winter Trustee Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 1,675 Images: 1	Download the 1.5.1 update that allows Premiere to work with HD. __________________ BenWinter.com

October 21st, 2005, 12:23 PM	#1706
Kawai Sin New Boot Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Zoo York Posts: 20	Hi Jen, Did you try embedding them. <OBJECT ID="MediaPlayer" WIDTH="192" HEIGHT="190" CLASSID="CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95" STANDBY="Loading Windows Media Player components..." TYPE="application/x-oleobject"> <PARAM NAME="FileName" VALUE="videofilename.wmv"> <PARAM name="ShowControls" VALUE="true"> <param name="ShowStatusBar" value="false"> <PARAM name="ShowDisplay" VALUE="false"> <PARAM name="autostart" VALUE="false"> <EMBED TYPE="application/x-mplayer2" SRC="videofilename.wmv" NAME="MediaPlayer" WIDTH="192" HEIGHT="190" ShowControls="1" ShowStatusBar="0" ShowDisplay="0" autostart="0"> </EMBED> </OBJECT> here's the code. Try reading this webpage for more info. http://www.mediacollege.com/video/fo...dia/streaming/ Cheers __________________ Kawai Sin www.rollingedit.com

October 21st, 2005, 12:34 PM	#1707
Kawai Sin New Boot Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Zoo York Posts: 20	Major difference between 6.5 and Premiere Pro I'm wondering if there are major difference between 6.5 and Premiere Pro. Aside from the layout and the better title program included. What other reasons are there to make the switch. I'm amateur dv creator and not planning to go HDDV. __________________ Kawai Sin www.rollingedit.com

October 21st, 2005, 04:00 PM	#1708
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	check that class i.d., it might be for an older player(??)... be careful if you change just the class i.d., because sometimes the param's are exclusive to only one class i.d. it's possible that you won't see any download bar because your embedded player isn't set up to show the control buttons(??).

October 22nd, 2005, 09:23 AM	#1709
Shaughan Flynn Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 272	In 6.5 you have to render before you can preview. In pro you do not. HUGE advantage IMHO. __________________ B-Scene Films

October 22nd, 2005, 02:38 PM	#1710
Christopher Lefchik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: US Posts: 1,152	Premiere 6.5 does have the real-time preview capability. From a Macworld review: "One of our favorite new features in Premiere 6.5 is the program's ability to preview effects, transitions, and filters without having to render them to the hard drive first, which is time-consuming. When Premiere 6.5's Real-Time Preview option is active, you can simply press the return key to preview an effect." http://www.macworld.com/2002/12/reviews/premiere/ Reading a couple reviews of Premiere 6.5, right off I can spot three features 6.5 lacks compared to Premiere Pro: the powerful color correction filter, waveform/vectorescope, and the multiple sequences (time lines) in one project. I can't say for certain, but Premiere Pro's audio mixing tools are probably better, also. Premiere Pro's code was rewritten from the ground up, so it is basically a whole new program.