Adobe Premiere & Premiere Pro discussions from 2005

Adam Brennan · January 17th, 2005, 09:18 PM

Is there any plug ins like they have for the adobe premiere 6.5 for premiere 7? There seems to be a slew of plug ins for 6.5 but not for 7?

Thanks...what I am looking for is some effects like the following for 7.

1. soften white accents
2. portraits type blur
3. White or color reference ghosting effects

I guess video effects for weddings and family albums...

thanks.

Adam Brennan · January 17th, 2005, 09:19 PM

Is premiere 6.5 or 7 better? I like 6.5 because the work flow seems to be easier to use. Only problem is that adobe premiere 6.5 seems to lock up on me a lot.

Chris Metts · January 17th, 2005, 09:49 PM

Hi Mike,

I'm new to this board, (altho i've been reading it for quite awhile)I too have this problem and i go about fixing it in the same way you do. And its true to say its very annoying, if anyone could please tell me how to fix it it would be greatly appreciated! :oD

Thanks,
Chris

Alfred Alonso · January 17th, 2005, 10:03 PM

I have a strange problems and I wonder if anyone else has it and found a solution.

I have an Nvidia Fx5700 ultra card and I'm using the TV-out as a real time preview for premiere using the svideo out to a tv monitor.

I also have a Fx5200 PCI card for a second monitor. Everything works fine except there are times that premiere won't show the output on the monitor.

I've noticed that when the playback settings are set to Direct3d, everything is fine. But when premiere switches itself to GDI, the video overlay out put to the TV doesn't work.

I change the setting to GDI, but nothing happens. When I go back to settings, it shows GDI again.

Anyone have any idea wha't happening and how to fix it?

Thanks,

Alfred

Rob Lohman · January 18th, 2005, 04:24 AM

That's certainly possible, but will be slower than the other process
I'd say.

I'm curious why you think it doesn't do cropping, seems to be
able to do that on my system.

File -> Batch Conversion/Rename

Tick the "Use advanced options" box and then hit "Set advanced
options" button below it. The first item on that screen is CROP.

Rob Lohman · January 18th, 2005, 05:24 AM

To the best of my knowledge this is not possible in Prem. The WAV
file is a digital extraction done by Scenalyzer and should match
perfectly to the rest of the files you capture (just snap the beginnings).

In Vegas, for example, I can group the tracks together then so they
always stay together when I move stuff around or cut etc. I don't
know if Premiere has a similar feature to make live a bit easier.

Ronnie Grahn · January 18th, 2005, 05:27 AM

In my book Premiere Pro 1.5 is the best. Never liked the 6.X versions much.

Rob Lohman · January 18th, 2005, 05:30 AM

Why not try out a demo of Premiere Pro 1.5 and see for yourself?

There are ofcourse also a lot of other great editing programs out
there if you are still looking for a program that suits you....

Rob Lohman · January 18th, 2005, 07:08 AM

You will need to convert the AC3 (or dts) to seperate WAV files, a
program like BeSweet (do a Google search) can do this for you.
Then use the Premiere export system to convert it into AC3 again
(when you are going out to DVD).

Rob Lohman · January 18th, 2005, 10:23 AM

This question is just too broad. There are thousands of plugins for
the Premiere range. I'd say it is the NLE with the most plugins
available. Some are free, most cost money. Do a Google search
on "premiere 6.5 plugin" or plugins, that should yield losts of
results. The big question is what kind of plugins are you looking
for? Perhaps an upgrade to PPro 1.5 might be nice since that
includes extra stuff like color correction tools etc.?

Rob Lohman · January 18th, 2005, 10:40 AM

I think most of the things you want can be done with the program
as is, sometimes by combining effects. I'm not exactly sure (from
your description) what kind of effects you are looking for, but the
first might possible with two tracks of the same footage, isolating
the highlights with something light a secondary color corrector
and then blurring/softening that. Make sure that tracks overlays
the "normal" track.

Rob Lohman · January 18th, 2005, 10:43 AM

Welcome aboard DVInfo.net Alfred!

I'm not sure I'm following what you are doing. Are you using a
graphics card to see the preview on the TV? If so, that is usually
not the best way. Most people use a DV deck, DV <-> analog
converter or video camera to get a TV preview (which avoids the
different colorspace conversions etc.).

Alfred Alonso · January 18th, 2005, 11:32 AM

Hi Rob,

Thanks for you response. Yes, I'm using the TV-out on the main Nvidia card to feed the monitor.

Works great with Windows Media 9 and 10, it's just Pro 1.5 that's the problem.

The other options you mention just are feasible of me although I could use the S-video out of the camera I suppose.

I'll keep trying.

thanks again,

Alfred

Brent Ray · January 18th, 2005, 01:06 PM

I had this same problem. You can't capture both channels with Premiere, but there is a small program called Scenalyzer which allows you to capture both. Check out this thread for more details about it:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=37509

Brent Ray · January 18th, 2005, 01:09 PM

Premiere Pro is much more powerful than the previous versions of Premiere. In my opinion, Premiere Pro now gives FCP a run for its money in terms of power and ease of use. The old versions of Premiere always seemed so amateur to me, but with the new Premiere Pro versions, things have gotten a whole lot better.

Like Rob mentioned, why not download the tryout version from Adobe and see if you like it. It takes a little while to adjust, but in the end I think you'll like Premiere Pro better.

January 17th, 2005, 09:18 PM	#151
Adam Brennan Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 58	are there any good plug in's for adobe premiere 7? Is there any plug ins like they have for the adobe premiere 6.5 for premiere 7? There seems to be a slew of plug ins for 6.5 but not for 7? Thanks...what I am looking for is some effects like the following for 7. 1. soften white accents 2. portraits type blur 3. White or color reference ghosting effects I guess video effects for weddings and family albums... thanks.

January 17th, 2005, 09:19 PM	#152
Adam Brennan Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 58	Which is better to use? Is premiere 6.5 or 7 better? I like 6.5 because the work flow seems to be easier to use. Only problem is that adobe premiere 6.5 seems to lock up on me a lot.

January 17th, 2005, 09:49 PM	#153
Chris Metts Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Olando, FL Posts: 27	New Hi Mike, I'm new to this board, (altho i've been reading it for quite awhile)I too have this problem and i go about fixing it in the same way you do. And its true to say its very annoying, if anyone could please tell me how to fix it it would be greatly appreciated! :oD Thanks, Chris __________________ Drama is choice, decision, action is character.

January 17th, 2005, 10:03 PM	#154
Alfred Alonso Tourist Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3	Pro 1.5 Playback Settings I have a strange problems and I wonder if anyone else has it and found a solution. I have an Nvidia Fx5700 ultra card and I'm using the TV-out as a real time preview for premiere using the svideo out to a tv monitor. I also have a Fx5200 PCI card for a second monitor. Everything works fine except there are times that premiere won't show the output on the monitor. I've noticed that when the playback settings are set to Direct3d, everything is fine. But when premiere switches itself to GDI, the video overlay out put to the TV doesn't work. I change the setting to GDI, but nothing happens. When I go back to settings, it shows GDI again. Anyone have any idea wha't happening and how to fix it? Thanks, Alfred

January 18th, 2005, 04:24 AM	#155
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That's certainly possible, but will be slower than the other process I'd say. I'm curious why you think it doesn't do cropping, seems to be able to do that on my system. File -> Batch Conversion/Rename Tick the "Use advanced options" box and then hit "Set advanced options" button below it. The first item on that screen is CROP. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 18th, 2005, 05:24 AM	#156
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	To the best of my knowledge this is not possible in Prem. The WAV file is a digital extraction done by Scenalyzer and should match perfectly to the rest of the files you capture (just snap the beginnings). In Vegas, for example, I can group the tracks together then so they always stay together when I move stuff around or cut etc. I don't know if Premiere has a similar feature to make live a bit easier. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 18th, 2005, 05:27 AM	#157
Ronnie Grahn Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Helsingborg, Sweden Posts: 77	In my book Premiere Pro 1.5 is the best. Never liked the 6.X versions much. __________________ www.ninjafury.com \| www.ronniegrahn.com

January 18th, 2005, 05:30 AM	#158
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Why not try out a demo of Premiere Pro 1.5 and see for yourself? There are ofcourse also a lot of other great editing programs out there if you are still looking for a program that suits you.... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 18th, 2005, 07:08 AM	#159
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	You will need to convert the AC3 (or dts) to seperate WAV files, a program like BeSweet (do a Google search) can do this for you. Then use the Premiere export system to convert it into AC3 again (when you are going out to DVD). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 18th, 2005, 10:23 AM	#160
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	This question is just too broad. There are thousands of plugins for the Premiere range. I'd say it is the NLE with the most plugins available. Some are free, most cost money. Do a Google search on "premiere 6.5 plugin" or plugins, that should yield losts of results. The big question is what kind of plugins are you looking for? Perhaps an upgrade to PPro 1.5 might be nice since that includes extra stuff like color correction tools etc.? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 18th, 2005, 10:40 AM	#161
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I think most of the things you want can be done with the program as is, sometimes by combining effects. I'm not exactly sure (from your description) what kind of effects you are looking for, but the first might possible with two tracks of the same footage, isolating the highlights with something light a secondary color corrector and then blurring/softening that. Make sure that tracks overlays the "normal" track. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 18th, 2005, 10:43 AM	#162
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Welcome aboard DVInfo.net Alfred! I'm not sure I'm following what you are doing. Are you using a graphics card to see the preview on the TV? If so, that is usually not the best way. Most people use a DV deck, DV <-> analog converter or video camera to get a TV preview (which avoids the different colorspace conversions etc.). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 18th, 2005, 11:32 AM	#163
Alfred Alonso Tourist Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3	Hi Rob, Thanks for you response. Yes, I'm using the TV-out on the main Nvidia card to feed the monitor. Works great with Windows Media 9 and 10, it's just Pro 1.5 that's the problem. The other options you mention just are feasible of me although I could use the S-video out of the camera I suppose. I'll keep trying. thanks again, Alfred

January 18th, 2005, 01:06 PM	#164
Brent Ray Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Westford, MA Posts: 145	I had this same problem. You can't capture both channels with Premiere, but there is a small program called Scenalyzer which allows you to capture both. Check out this thread for more details about it: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...threadid=37509

January 18th, 2005, 01:09 PM	#165
Brent Ray Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Westford, MA Posts: 145	Premiere Pro is much more powerful than the previous versions of Premiere. In my opinion, Premiere Pro now gives FCP a run for its money in terms of power and ease of use. The old versions of Premiere always seemed so amateur to me, but with the new Premiere Pro versions, things have gotten a whole lot better. Like Rob mentioned, why not download the tryout version from Adobe and see if you like it. It takes a little while to adjust, but in the end I think you'll like Premiere Pro better.