Out of sync after import at DVinfo.net

Bart Wierzbicki · August 26th, 2009, 01:50 PM

Hi guys,
I have a problem. I have caputered a full tape from my Canon XHA1 in Adobe Premiere.
When I open the .mpeg in windows explorer with mediaplayer there is no problem.
But when I use it in Adobe Premiere or After Effects ... the audio goes out of sync
after some time.
Can anyone help me out with this one ? It's driving me crazy ! :(

Harm Millaard · August 26th, 2009, 02:16 PM

All versions of Premiere Pro exhibit some form problem with capturing HDV. Your best solution is to use the freeware HDVSplit, which does everything Adobe should have done ages ago, allow scene detection, give previews during capture and avoid out-of-sync (OOS) errors. History repeats itsself, just think back to the DV era when it took ages for Premiere to allow scene detection, when Scenalyzer had already offered this for years.

Bart Wierzbicki · August 26th, 2009, 03:16 PM

Hi Harm ! I just downloaded HDVSplit.
IT WORKED !!! Yihaa ! You're the best !!!
I just can't understand why Adobe doesn't do something like that.
Do you also use the HDV Split for capturing or do you still capture first in Adobe Premiere and then run HDVSplit onto it ?

Harm Millaard · August 27th, 2009, 01:45 AM

I only capture with HDVSplit. I like the scene detection too much to even consider PR for that.

Dimitris Mantalias · September 1st, 2009, 02:20 AM

Adobe's support on HDV capturing is not considered the best in the universe. I haven't captured HDV with Premiere since 2007, when I did my first HD wedding and spent some days to understand why the hell the videos were going out of sync at some point. What I learned back then had to do with the dropouts. There are DV dropouts that are either visible or not visible (you know, chess-like artifacts or spontaneous damaged pixels). In HDV though, due to compression, any damage by dropout was multiplied by 12 (if you have for example 2 frames of dropout in DV, in HDV it equals with 1 second!). Those dropouts, either small or large weren't detectable by Adobe. So, at every even tiny-tiny dropout, invisible to a normal DV footage, Premiere was losing sync. It was a nightmare.

Thank God I discovered Vegas back then (HDLink was constantly freezing on me) which detected every dropout and continued to a new file. It's sad to know that this hasn't ressolved yet in Premiere. Do they at least have preview now?

August 26th, 2009, 01:50 PM	#1
Bart Wierzbicki Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Zonhoven Posts: 153	Out of sync after import Hi guys, I have a problem. I have caputered a full tape from my Canon XHA1 in Adobe Premiere. When I open the .mpeg in windows explorer with mediaplayer there is no problem. But when I use it in Adobe Premiere or After Effects ... the audio goes out of sync after some time. Can anyone help me out with this one ? It's driving me crazy ! :(

August 26th, 2009, 02:16 PM	#2
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	All versions of Premiere Pro exhibit some form problem with capturing HDV. Your best solution is to use the freeware HDVSplit, which does everything Adobe should have done ages ago, allow scene detection, give previews during capture and avoid out-of-sync (OOS) errors. History repeats itsself, just think back to the DV era when it took ages for Premiere to allow scene detection, when Scenalyzer had already offered this for years.

August 26th, 2009, 03:16 PM	#3
Bart Wierzbicki Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Zonhoven Posts: 153	Hi Harm ! I just downloaded HDVSplit. IT WORKED !!! Yihaa ! You're the best !!! I just can't understand why Adobe doesn't do something like that. Do you also use the HDV Split for capturing or do you still capture first in Adobe Premiere and then run HDVSplit onto it ?

August 27th, 2009, 01:45 AM	#4
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	I only capture with HDVSplit. I like the scene detection too much to even consider PR for that.

September 1st, 2009, 02:20 AM	#5
Dimitris Mantalias Major Player Join Date: May 2009 Location: Arta, Greece Posts: 342	Adobe's support on HDV capturing is not considered the best in the universe. I haven't captured HDV with Premiere since 2007, when I did my first HD wedding and spent some days to understand why the hell the videos were going out of sync at some point. What I learned back then had to do with the dropouts. There are DV dropouts that are either visible or not visible (you know, chess-like artifacts or spontaneous damaged pixels). In HDV though, due to compression, any damage by dropout was multiplied by 12 (if you have for example 2 frames of dropout in DV, in HDV it equals with 1 second!). Those dropouts, either small or large weren't detectable by Adobe. So, at every even tiny-tiny dropout, invisible to a normal DV footage, Premiere was losing sync. It was a nightmare. Thank God I discovered Vegas back then (HDLink was constantly freezing on me) which detected every dropout and continued to a new file. It's sad to know that this hasn't ressolved yet in Premiere. Do they at least have preview now?