Serious Magic DVRack

John Miller · January 13th, 2007, 09:48 AM

First, decide how long you want the timelapsed version of the event to last. e.g., for a 5 hour task, if you want to see the whole thing unfold in 1 minute, you'd want to record at 1/(5 * 60) normal speed = 1/300 of normal speed. Since normal speed is 24fps in your case, you'd want to record one frame every (300 / 24) = 12.5 seconds.....

Richard Andrewski · January 14th, 2007, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom McDougal

Thanks for your quick reply

I answered my own question when looking around more.

I can shot one clip and then utlize the In/Out points of the software.
What I typically do is shot a scene, then in Post Premiere, i would do an auto scene detect to seperate the clips so I can log them. I rather work with small clips of each scene vs. 1 master clip which i must scrub though.

You definitely need to rekey each scene. There are usually enough subtle differences between lighting or whatever and ultra requires you to grab certain parts of the green screen so they can be sampled for the best key possible. So each shot needs to be processed separately.

Paul Lohbauer · February 1st, 2007, 09:51 PM

I recorded a series of interviews on DVRack HD using the HVX200 set at 720p/30p. I set the DVRack to record QT files.

The clips played back fine on my PC. I hooked the drive up to my Mac and tried to import the files into FCP 5. I immediately got an error message that said the media files are not optimized for FCP. The message recommended recapturing the media or using media manager to create new files to improve their performance.

I placed a clip on the timeline anyway and rendered it. Initially the audio played with the clip and then completely dropped out after 10 seconds or so. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Paul

Eugene Kim · February 11th, 2007, 03:54 PM

Hi, would I encounter any problems recording to one of those USB cable powered mini hard drives? You can get them up to 160gb these days at reasonable cost, but the only thing is they are only 5400 rpm.

I'm thinking of getting these for portable field recording using HDV Rack 2.0 without having to resort to a larger, AC powered hard drive.

Also, does anyone know how much these reduce notebook battery life approximately?

Thanks for any info.

Eugene Kim · February 11th, 2007, 07:44 PM

Well, have found 7200rpm versions of these now. But I guess the issues would be heat dissipation, reliability, susceptibility to jarring transport/handling, etc.

Still, would rather go 5400 rpm for greater storage capacity currently. I don't think there would be any problem capturing hd with these, but still would like confirmation though anyway.

Les Mularky · February 12th, 2007, 05:30 AM

Hi folks I have used dell inspiron 1300 and dv rack with 80 gig hard drive to decord SD using a XL 1s. I used mains power....but I had tested it previously and found it to work for about 2 hours before depletion (how old is your battrey). I also have a spare laptop battery just in case mains electricity is not available. Peace Les.

Patrick Synnott · February 12th, 2007, 05:54 AM

Of course, the HD100 is a small portable hard drive - and DV rack is a laptop based program.

I have DV rack 2.0 on a Dell Inspiron 8160 running perfectly fine - I don't use it to record, but I do use it to monitor the HD during studio/interview shoots.

My only want would be a 1394 splitter - so that I could run the FS4ProHD (which is what I have) AND monitor HD through DV rack simultaneously. Now that would be nice - sadly all I can do is monitor the HD down composite on an SD monitor (hd monitor too expensive at this time). I know, I could have forgone the laptop and invested in a monitor - but I really need the laptop to be Avid friendly as it was needed for field review of material on location in India.

Eugene Kim · February 16th, 2007, 01:42 PM

Hi, sorry, but is there anyone who has experience using these portable bus powered hard drives at 5400 rpm for recording high-def material using DV Rack?

Thanks again.

Tony Tibbetts · February 19th, 2007, 01:51 AM

I was thinking of getting DV rack for my new laptop, but When I installed the trial I can't get an image from the A1. I'm not even sure windows recognizes the A1. The only thing that appears in the hardware profile is AV/C Tape Device.

What am I doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated.

Barry Richard · February 19th, 2007, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Tibbetts

I was thinking of getting DV rack for my new laptop, but When I installed the trial I can't get an image from the A1. I'm not even sure windows recognizes the A1. The only thing that appears in the hardware profile is AV/C Tape Device.

What am I doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated.

are demoing the HDV version ??

(if you're running the SD version, DV Rack will only work if the XHA1 is running in SD mode)

Tony Tibbetts · February 19th, 2007, 02:43 PM

There are two different trial versions? I tried putting it into SD mode and still couldn't bring up an image. The funny thing is I can capture HDV in vegas. So the camera is talking to the computer.

I went to the page and signed up for DV Rack HD 2 trial and I get sent a link for DV Rack SD 2.0 (DVRack20SD_1571.exe). I've done it twice now. There are no other options to download different trial versions. The e-mail even states it's a link to DV Rack HD 2. What is going on here? This is massively frustrating, since I'm considering paying $500 dollars for this bit of software.

Tony Tibbetts · February 19th, 2007, 09:13 PM

Does a trial version of DV Rack HD exist? If it does I can't find it.

Tony Tibbetts · February 20th, 2007, 12:42 AM

Ugh... nevermind. Just hooked up a DV camcorder to the laptop and theres a 1/2 second delay. I can only imagine what kind of delay is in store with HDV.

Eugene Kim · February 25th, 2007, 10:57 PM

What are your laptop specs?

Stephen Armour · February 27th, 2007, 05:15 PM

Anybody have a lead on whether Adobe will offer a "downgraded" version of Ultra 2 with the new PP3? I'm sure they wouldn't offer the "full version"....

Rumors anyone? (I confess, I'm hoping to save some $$ with the next upgrade...)

February 1st, 2007, 09:51 PM	#333
Paul Lohbauer Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 40	DVRack HD QT files not compatible with FCP 5 I recorded a series of interviews on DVRack HD using the HVX200 set at 720p/30p. I set the DVRack to record QT files. The clips played back fine on my PC. I hooked the drive up to my Mac and tried to import the files into FCP 5. I immediately got an error message that said the media files are not optimized for FCP. The message recommended recapturing the media or using media manager to create new files to improve their performance. I placed a clip on the timeline anyway and rendered it. Initially the audio played with the clip and then completely dropped out after 10 seconds or so. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Paul __________________ Paul Lohbauer ProMediaDigitalVideo.com

February 11th, 2007, 03:54 PM	#334
Eugene Kim Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 166	recording on bus powered external drive, 5400rpm? Hi, would I encounter any problems recording to one of those USB cable powered mini hard drives? You can get them up to 160gb these days at reasonable cost, but the only thing is they are only 5400 rpm. I'm thinking of getting these for portable field recording using HDV Rack 2.0 without having to resort to a larger, AC powered hard drive. Also, does anyone know how much these reduce notebook battery life approximately? Thanks for any info.

February 12th, 2007, 05:30 AM	#336
Les Mularky New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 7	no sd capture problem Hi folks I have used dell inspiron 1300 and dv rack with 80 gig hard drive to decord SD using a XL 1s. I used mains power....but I had tested it previously and found it to work for about 2 hours before depletion (how old is your battrey). I also have a spare laptop battery just in case mains electricity is not available. Peace Les.

February 19th, 2007, 01:51 AM	#339
Tony Tibbetts Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 385	Help with DV Rack I was thinking of getting DV rack for my new laptop, but When I installed the trial I can't get an image from the A1. I'm not even sure windows recognizes the A1. The only thing that appears in the hardware profile is AV/C Tape Device. What am I doing wrong? Any help would be appreciated.

February 19th, 2007, 09:13 PM	#342
Tony Tibbetts Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 385	Trial version of DV Rack HD? Does a trial version of DV Rack HD exist? If it does I can't find it.

January 13th, 2007, 09:48 AM	#331
John Miller Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hillsborough, NC, USA Posts: 968	First, decide how long you want the timelapsed version of the event to last. e.g., for a 5 hour task, if you want to see the whole thing unfold in 1 minute, you'd want to record at 1/(5 * 60) normal speed = 1/300 of normal speed. Since normal speed is 24fps in your case, you'd want to record one frame every (300 / 24) = 12.5 seconds.....

February 11th, 2007, 07:44 PM	#335
Eugene Kim Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 166	Well, have found 7200rpm versions of these now. But I guess the issues would be heat dissipation, reliability, susceptibility to jarring transport/handling, etc. Still, would rather go 5400 rpm for greater storage capacity currently. I don't think there would be any problem capturing hd with these, but still would like confirmation though anyway.

February 12th, 2007, 05:54 AM	#337
Patrick Synnott New Boot Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edison, New Jersey Posts: 13	Of course, the HD100 is a small portable hard drive - and DV rack is a laptop based program. I have DV rack 2.0 on a Dell Inspiron 8160 running perfectly fine - I don't use it to record, but I do use it to monitor the HD during studio/interview shoots. My only want would be a 1394 splitter - so that I could run the FS4ProHD (which is what I have) AND monitor HD through DV rack simultaneously. Now that would be nice - sadly all I can do is monitor the HD down composite on an SD monitor (hd monitor too expensive at this time). I know, I could have forgone the laptop and invested in a monitor - but I really need the laptop to be Avid friendly as it was needed for field review of material on location in India.

February 16th, 2007, 01:42 PM	#338
Eugene Kim Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 166	Hi, sorry, but is there anyone who has experience using these portable bus powered hard drives at 5400 rpm for recording high-def material using DV Rack? Thanks again.

February 19th, 2007, 02:43 PM	#341
Tony Tibbetts Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 385	There are two different trial versions? I tried putting it into SD mode and still couldn't bring up an image. The funny thing is I can capture HDV in vegas. So the camera is talking to the computer. I went to the page and signed up for DV Rack HD 2 trial and I get sent a link for DV Rack SD 2.0 (DVRack20SD_1571.exe). I've done it twice now. There are no other options to download different trial versions. The e-mail even states it's a link to DV Rack HD 2. What is going on here? This is massively frustrating, since I'm considering paying $500 dollars for this bit of software.

February 20th, 2007, 12:42 AM	#343
Tony Tibbetts Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 385	Ugh... nevermind. Just hooked up a DV camcorder to the laptop and theres a 1/2 second delay. I can only imagine what kind of delay is in store with HDV.

February 25th, 2007, 10:57 PM	#344
Eugene Kim Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 166	What are your laptop specs?

February 27th, 2007, 05:15 PM	#345
Stephen Armour Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Natal, RN, Brasil Posts: 900	Ultra 2 out with Premiere Pro 3? Anybody have a lead on whether Adobe will offer a "downgraded" version of Ultra 2 with the new PP3? I'm sure they wouldn't offer the "full version".... Rumors anyone? (I confess, I'm hoping to save some $$ with the next upgrade...)