DV Rack - very nice if it works as advertized

Jim Quinlan · September 9th, 2004, 06:26 AM

Christopher, I just heard back from the lead developer of DVR and he said it doesn't support HD at this time.

Christopher C. Murphy · September 9th, 2004, 07:56 AM

Yeah, I actually talked to the guy on the phone. Seems like a nice guy. However, just like you said no support for HDV...yet?

I'd like to put a shout out for any current and future HDV users to request support. This product would be HUGELY beneficial to us.

Interestingly, the DV Rack guy said they had an HDV camera!

Murph

Mark Randall · September 18th, 2004, 01:15 PM

Lawrence,

DV Rack already works as you ask. The S-Video (or composite) Out video port on laptops is not just a copy of the laptop's main screen. This output can display a different image and DV Rack displays the contents of its field monitor here, including clip playback, Zoom, Split, Safe Area, Zebras, etc.

--- Mark

Lawrence Stevens · September 18th, 2004, 04:22 PM

That sounds great Mark
I look forward to trying that out on the demo

What are yor thoughts on adding the simple editing 'rack' to the software

Just make a simple in and out point in the 'rack' that records the clip, and drag it to a timeline rack.

If something like that is included at a later date, like a xx.1 version update, and I bought the software now, do you think I would have to pay more money to get that update?

Basically if this is going to ever be included, I will wait to buy DV Rack then, because this I really think would be a great addition

regards
Lawrence

Carl Gould · September 19th, 2004, 11:19 AM

Just downloaded the trial version. I am very impressed. If I can scrounge up the money I will definately buy it.

Tung Bui · September 19th, 2004, 06:53 PM

Just a question to Mark.
As you know the lcd display has a differen gamma setting and is of course progressive unlike field crt monitors. Does DVRack adjust the gamma to display a more "accurate" color and exposure?

Rob Lohman · September 20th, 2004, 05:05 AM

DV Rack FAQ

Will video calibration work effectively on the LCD monitor on my laptop?
(4th question from bottom)

Barry Green · September 20th, 2004, 12:20 PM

Just used DV Rack in the field for the first time.

Suffice it to say, I just ordered a 30' firewire cable, and I hope never to shoot without DV Rack again! :)

Steve Cramer · September 20th, 2004, 03:37 PM

Downloaded the trial version. IT is INCREDIBLE. Very easy and Ultra Portable. I downloaded it around noon today and I have already shot some highlight with it. LOVE IT........

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is how user friendly this application is. It allows you to set up your "RACK" how you want it.

Great Application with a million uses in the field.

SC

Barry Green · September 20th, 2004, 10:45 PM

When I first got it, I wasn't even planning on using the digital disk recorder feature that much, I was primarily interested in the waveform, vectorscope, and field monitor.

I didn't even know you can ZOOM IN on the field monitor, which is way cool...

... and the digital disk recorder is phenomenal.

And the audio monitor is just a bonus -- the ability to see with your eyes where the frequency range is falling, instead of arbitrarily trying to hear it, is very handy.

Don't care much for "SureShot", I can focus better with the zoomed-in monitor and set exposure more accurately with the waveform and the zebras.

Overall, an absolutely fantastic program. I went and bought a laptop just to be able to use it, and I still think it's a steal.

Mark Mapes · September 22nd, 2004, 10:42 AM

Barry,

Since you're so happy to have the zoom feature, I just wanted to make sure you knew about the full screen mode in which the video takes over the whole monitor. To toggle between the normal and full screen views, simply press ALT+ENTER. All the keyboard shortcuts for clip playback work when the video's filling the screen and the transport controls are nowhere to be found.

Christopher C. Murphy · September 22nd, 2004, 11:48 AM

Hey Mark, what's the chances of a "HDV" version coming out to accompany the HDR-FX1? I'd be first in line to purchase..

Murph

Barry Green · September 22nd, 2004, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Since you're so happy to have the zoom feature, I just wanted to make sure you knew about the full screen mode in which the video takes over the whole monitor.

Whoa... just tried it on my 17" LCD... AMAZING! Very, very cool. You can zoom in a lot closer, but the full-screen monitor looks great!

You guys really seem to enjoy working on this software, don't you? It shows in the final product.

Still think you need to change the 16:9/4:3 switch. Ideally it'd be a button on the front panel, but if not, the menu option should work more like a Panasonic BT-H1390Y: either 16:9 or 4:3. If you want to provide for more aspect ratios inbetween, maybe you could make it through shift-clicking on the arrows to scroll through by small increments.

Just used it on a shoot, I am flat-out loving this software, haven't been this pleased with a software purchase since I dumped Premiere and first got Vegas 4+DVD. I bought a laptop specifically to use it, and now I'm starting to think about one of those micro-laptops with the little 7" screens, I think DV Rack on one of those palmtops would be a dynamite, indispensable combination!

Mark Mapes · September 22nd, 2004, 06:59 PM

To anybody who has downloaded the Trial Version of DV Rack:

We sent out a survey by e-mail to people who downloaded the DV Rack trial recently, and the number of replies has been less than expected. With so many filters out there that block presumptive spam, we are wondering whether people are even receiving the survey. So if you have it, would you do us the favor of dropping me a note with the following info?
* What site did you download the trial from? (seriousmagic.com, downloads.com, other???)
* Did you receive an e-mail from Serious Magic asking you to fill out a survey?

In order to avoid clogging this thread with replies on this matter, please send your response to mmapes@seriousmagic.com. I assure you on my honor that you will not receive any emails from us as a result (with the possible exception of a courtesy thank-you, and unless, of course, you request any information).

Thanks for helping us get a handle on this matter.

Christopher C. Murphy · October 6th, 2004, 05:22 AM

Hey Mark,

Microsoft just released the "Virtual PC 7" software. Does this version include the pieces needed to get DV Rack working for HDV on Macs? I'm bummed that Virtual PC 6 wasn't useful in that way - if Virtual PC 7 is compatible I'll buy it and DV Rack!

Murph

September 9th, 2004, 06:26 AM	#31
Jim Quinlan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 177	Christopher, I just heard back from the lead developer of DVR and he said it doesn't support HD at this time. __________________ Jim

September 9th, 2004, 07:56 AM	#32
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Yeah, I actually talked to the guy on the phone. Seems like a nice guy. However, just like you said no support for HDV...yet? I'd like to put a shout out for any current and future HDV users to request support. This product would be HUGELY beneficial to us. Interestingly, the DV Rack guy said they had an HDV camera! Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

September 19th, 2004, 11:19 AM	#35
Carl Gould Tourist Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vernon, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 1	Just downloaded the trial version. I am very impressed. If I can scrounge up the money I will definately buy it. __________________ Carl

September 19th, 2004, 06:53 PM	#36
Tung Bui Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 101	question re field monitor function Just a question to Mark. As you know the lcd display has a differen gamma setting and is of course progressive unlike field crt monitors. Does DVRack adjust the gamma to display a more "accurate" color and exposure?

September 20th, 2004, 05:05 AM	#37
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	DV Rack FAQ Will video calibration work effectively on the LCD monitor on my laptop? (4th question from bottom) __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

September 18th, 2004, 01:15 PM	#33
Mark Randall Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 47	Lawrence, DV Rack already works as you ask. The S-Video (or composite) Out video port on laptops is not just a copy of the laptop's main screen. This output can display a different image and DV Rack displays the contents of its field monitor here, including clip playback, Zoom, Split, Safe Area, Zebras, etc. --- Mark

September 18th, 2004, 04:22 PM	#34
Lawrence Stevens Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 67	That sounds great Mark I look forward to trying that out on the demo What are yor thoughts on adding the simple editing 'rack' to the software Just make a simple in and out point in the 'rack' that records the clip, and drag it to a timeline rack. If something like that is included at a later date, like a xx.1 version update, and I bought the software now, do you think I would have to pay more money to get that update? Basically if this is going to ever be included, I will wait to buy DV Rack then, because this I really think would be a great addition regards Lawrence

September 20th, 2004, 12:20 PM	#38
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Just used DV Rack in the field for the first time. Suffice it to say, I just ordered a 30' firewire cable, and I hope never to shoot without DV Rack again! :)

September 20th, 2004, 03:37 PM	#39
Steve Cramer New Boot Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Springfield,IL Posts: 15	DV RACK Downloaded the trial version. IT is INCREDIBLE. Very easy and Ultra Portable. I downloaded it around noon today and I have already shot some highlight with it. LOVE IT........ One thing that hasn't been mentioned is how user friendly this application is. It allows you to set up your "RACK" how you want it. Great Application with a million uses in the field. SC __________________ Steve Cramer Video Systems Consultant

September 20th, 2004, 10:45 PM	#40
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	When I first got it, I wasn't even planning on using the digital disk recorder feature that much, I was primarily interested in the waveform, vectorscope, and field monitor. I didn't even know you can ZOOM IN on the field monitor, which is way cool... ... and the digital disk recorder is phenomenal. And the audio monitor is just a bonus -- the ability to see with your eyes where the frequency range is falling, instead of arbitrarily trying to hear it, is very handy. Don't care much for "SureShot", I can focus better with the zoomed-in monitor and set exposure more accurately with the waveform and the zebras. Overall, an absolutely fantastic program. I went and bought a laptop just to be able to use it, and I still think it's a steal.

September 22nd, 2004, 10:42 AM	#41
Mark Mapes Serious Magic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 68	Full screen view Barry, Since you're so happy to have the zoom feature, I just wanted to make sure you knew about the full screen mode in which the video takes over the whole monitor. To toggle between the normal and full screen views, simply press ALT+ENTER. All the keyboard shortcuts for clip playback work when the video's filling the screen and the transport controls are nowhere to be found. __________________ Mark Mapes OnLocation QA Manager, Adobe Systems

September 22nd, 2004, 11:48 AM	#42
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Hey Mark, what's the chances of a "HDV" version coming out to accompany the HDR-FX1? I'd be first in line to purchase.. Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

September 22nd, 2004, 06:59 PM	#44
Mark Mapes Serious Magic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 68	Trial Users -- Did our E-mailed Survey get through? To anybody who has downloaded the Trial Version of DV Rack: We sent out a survey by e-mail to people who downloaded the DV Rack trial recently, and the number of replies has been less than expected. With so many filters out there that block presumptive spam, we are wondering whether people are even receiving the survey. So if you have it, would you do us the favor of dropping me a note with the following info? * What site did you download the trial from? (seriousmagic.com, downloads.com, other???) * Did you receive an e-mail from Serious Magic asking you to fill out a survey? In order to avoid clogging this thread with replies on this matter, please send your response to mmapes@seriousmagic.com. I assure you on my honor that you will not receive any emails from us as a result (with the possible exception of a courtesy thank-you, and unless, of course, you request any information). Thanks for helping us get a handle on this matter. __________________ Mark Mapes OnLocation QA Manager, Adobe Systems

October 6th, 2004, 05:22 AM	#45
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Virtual PC 7 released - DV Rack compatible? Hey Mark, Microsoft just released the "Virtual PC 7" software. Does this version include the pieces needed to get DV Rack working for HDV on Macs? I'm bummed that Virtual PC 6 wasn't useful in that way - if Virtual PC 7 is compatible I'll buy it and DV Rack! Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer