Is it safe to upgrade to CS4 yet? at DVinfo.net

Denny Kyser · July 26th, 2009, 07:08 AM

I am running windows vista business 64 bit, and have the Adobe creative suite CS3, I have not upgraded to CS4 because I am not sure how compatible my plug ins will be.

I have cineform Prospect HD, Magic bullet Looks, colorista.

Also can I still use CS3 after I install CS4?

Harm Millaard · July 26th, 2009, 08:50 AM

Not sure about Cineform Prospect HD since I don't use it. MB Looks and Colorista work fine, as long as you set the properties to run in XP compatibility mode.

You can install CS4 alongside CS3 and use both, but be aware that removing CS3 cripples CS4 and requires a reinstall of CS4. Also CS3 projects can be opened in CS4 but there is no backward compatibility.

Brian Barkley · July 26th, 2009, 08:58 AM

Just received my computer and CS4 upgrade from my tech in Chicago. Haven't unpacked the box yet, but my tech said the bugs have all been worked out by now. It is Vista Business 64, Matrox Axio, etc.

I don't believe Matrox is compatible with Cineform, so I do not have that.

I can report back in about a week as to how I like CS4, but I am looking forward to that upgrade.

Paul R Johnson · July 26th, 2009, 10:36 AM

Just to backup the comment that CS3 still works once you have CS4 installed. I've found CS4 on Vista 64 quite reliable.

Syeed Ali · July 26th, 2009, 11:19 AM

I've been using CS4 for a few days now on Vista 64 and I don't have any problems .

Big benefit for me is the Adobe Media Encoder. That alone makes it worthwhile for me as I do a lot of short clips for youTube.

I'm using it in conjunction with Cineform Neo at the moment. Not sure if it's correct, but I'm sure I read that Cinefor HD is not compatible with CS4 yet???

Gary Brun · July 26th, 2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syeed Ali

I've been using CS4 for a few days now on Vista 64 and I don't have any problems .

Big benefit for me is the Adobe Media Encoder. That alone makes it worthwhile for me as I do a lot of short clips for youTube.

I'm using it in conjunction with Cineform Neo at the moment. Not sure if it's correct, but I'm sure I read that Cinefor HD is not compatible with CS4 yet???

Cineform HD does work with CS4.
Its just the "realtime" engine that is not implemented.

Brian Barkley · July 26th, 2009, 07:58 PM

Cineform is compatible with CS4, unless you have Matrox Axio, which I do.

Cineform IS NOT compatible with Matrox Axio.

I am interested as to why more people are not using Matrox Axio with their Adobe CS3 or CS4?

Gary Brun · July 27th, 2009, 03:09 PM

Im using the Matrox mini and have no problems with Cineform.

Jack Walker · July 27th, 2009, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Brun

Im using the Matrox mini and have no problems with Cineform.

Can you preview using Cineform and the MXO2 Mini? My understanding is that Cineform does not work with the MXOR Mini (yet) as there is no third party API for the Matrox product.

If you can, can you preview 24p over 60i to an HDMI monitor?

Thanks!

Graham Hickling · July 27th, 2009, 10:07 PM

Harm's post is the first I've seen from anyone able to run Colorista in CS4. So...which file do you apply the compatibility mode setting to? The installer exe?

Harm's advice doesn't help in XP64 which I use presently (since it doesnt have a "XP compatibility " mode), but if that setting works in Vista that's a very cool find!

(Incidentally, MB Looks works fine for me in CS4 and XP64, without any tweaks needed).

Gary Brun · July 28th, 2009, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Walker

Can you preview using Cineform and the MXO2 Mini? My understanding is that Cineform does not work with the MXOR Mini (yet) as there is no third party API for the Matrox product.

If you can, can you preview 24p over 60i to an HDMI monitor?

Thanks!

Hi Jack.
I don't shoot 24p but I am previewing full res chd files (1920x1080) at 25p on my hdmi plasma screen via the hdmi output on the mini. With no lag or anything. I can even set the thing up as a broadcast monitor too.
The built in hardware scaling is also good. Quite pleased for the price.

Joe Riggs · July 29th, 2009, 06:50 PM

I would say no, I've experienced numerous issues. Moreover, it is significantly slower upon exporting than CS3, at least on Windows Xp 32bit.

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attend-wo...s4-slower.html

July 26th, 2009, 07:08 AM	#1
Denny Kyser Major Player Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Warren, Pa Posts: 785	Is it safe to upgrade to CS4 yet? I am running windows vista business 64 bit, and have the Adobe creative suite CS3, I have not upgraded to CS4 because I am not sure how compatible my plug ins will be. I have cineform Prospect HD, Magic bullet Looks, colorista. Also can I still use CS3 after I install CS4? __________________ 2 Canon XF305's Kyser Photography www.kyserphoto.com

July 27th, 2009, 03:09 PM	#8
Gary Brun Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kråkstad Norway. Posts: 229	Im using the Matrox mini and have no problems with Cineform. __________________ http://www.mlotv.com

July 26th, 2009, 08:50 AM	#2
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	Not sure about Cineform Prospect HD since I don't use it. MB Looks and Colorista work fine, as long as you set the properties to run in XP compatibility mode. You can install CS4 alongside CS3 and use both, but be aware that removing CS3 cripples CS4 and requires a reinstall of CS4. Also CS3 projects can be opened in CS4 but there is no backward compatibility.

July 26th, 2009, 08:58 AM	#3
Brian Barkley Major Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 233	Just received my computer and CS4 upgrade from my tech in Chicago. Haven't unpacked the box yet, but my tech said the bugs have all been worked out by now. It is Vista Business 64, Matrox Axio, etc. I don't believe Matrox is compatible with Cineform, so I do not have that. I can report back in about a week as to how I like CS4, but I am looking forward to that upgrade.

July 26th, 2009, 10:36 AM	#4
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	Just to backup the comment that CS3 still works once you have CS4 installed. I've found CS4 on Vista 64 quite reliable.

July 26th, 2009, 11:19 AM	#5
Syeed Ali Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London Posts: 161	I've been using CS4 for a few days now on Vista 64 and I don't have any problems . Big benefit for me is the Adobe Media Encoder. That alone makes it worthwhile for me as I do a lot of short clips for youTube. I'm using it in conjunction with Cineform Neo at the moment. Not sure if it's correct, but I'm sure I read that Cinefor HD is not compatible with CS4 yet???

July 26th, 2009, 07:58 PM	#7
Brian Barkley Major Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 233	Cineform is compatible with CS4, unless you have Matrox Axio, which I do. Cineform IS NOT compatible with Matrox Axio. I am interested as to why more people are not using Matrox Axio with their Adobe CS3 or CS4?

July 27th, 2009, 10:07 PM	#10
Graham Hickling Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 1,669	Harm's post is the first I've seen from anyone able to run Colorista in CS4. So...which file do you apply the compatibility mode setting to? The installer exe? Harm's advice doesn't help in XP64 which I use presently (since it doesnt have a "XP compatibility " mode), but if that setting works in Vista that's a very cool find! (Incidentally, MB Looks works fine for me in CS4 and XP64, without any tweaks needed).

July 29th, 2009, 06:50 PM	#12
Joe Riggs Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 189	I would say no, I've experienced numerous issues. Moreover, it is significantly slower upon exporting than CS3, at least on Windows Xp 32bit. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/attend-wo...s4-slower.html