Adobe Premiere discussions from 2002

Justin Walter · February 23rd, 2002, 10:19 PM

This happens to me on more complicated projects when I try to play an exported video, or just previewing the timeline. It has never happended when I use the 'Print to Tape' (not sure if that is exactly what it is called). Sorry, caffine is killing my memory - You go to 'file', 'export', 'Print to Tape'. Try that if you haven't already and let me know what happens.

Dan Dorsey · February 24th, 2002, 08:26 PM

DR_Pepper_78,

STILL NO LUCK! I need to get some sleep this week, but I can't turn out projects with this mess. When I play it back it will go to the "blue no signal" screen of my VCR and then play through again creating that jump cut. Some times it will hiccup, and then go into a fast-forward mode. I have read about other people experiencing the same kinds of problems. My Premiere software is not exactly store bought either which may be part of the problem.

Bradley Miller · February 25th, 2002, 03:44 AM

Try this.

FILE/EXPORT/MOVIE/MICROSOFT DV AVI

Then when it is finished, simply do

FILE/OPEN/...and select that file you just created. It will open up in a new window and just press "play" and should play back perfectly smooth. Give it a shot and let me know if that works for you.

Adam Lawrence · February 25th, 2002, 01:56 PM

ive never imported premiere projects into after effects due to that reason..

i usually do all my color corrections, effects ect. in after effects.
then render a new avi to go to premiere for edit..

then output from there....

or vice versa i guess..

Rob Lohman · February 26th, 2002, 03:53 AM

only problem with that is space & time. If I want todo
that and not loose any quality I need to export either
uncompressed or in a lossless format (ie, not DV). This
takes muchos diskspace and time. Not ideal.

I have been rethinking my problem. I only have like 4
dissolves or something. The rest are all straight cuts
which After Effects has no problems with. So it is not
too much work todo those 4 manually.

Too bad After Effects cannot run inside Premiere (or
vice versa) as a plugin..

Oh well.... keep on dreaming

Adam Lawrence · February 26th, 2002, 02:16 PM

yup..

thats the only down fall is space and rendering time
...

but if you figure out a way to import projects from premiere
flawlessly then let me know...

i found using the microsoft DV compressor works well..
not the best but it makes for a good compression without
a noticable loss of quality...and doesnt take up much space.

Andrew Leigh · March 10th, 2002, 02:11 PM

Many times the system is O.K. but we leave applications running in the background, often we are not aware that these resources are running. Make sure virus checkers and other such applications are not running and sucking resources away.

Andrew

fargograf · March 12th, 2002, 11:27 AM

Has anyone mixed 32 and 48 khz audio in a premiere project? Adobe says to "avoid" mixing the two...but they don't say "you can't" !

I'd like to know what the possible problems that mixing would cause. (I'd like to export the finished project at 48K)

(Love this website!)

mdreyes23 · March 12th, 2002, 02:30 PM

I didn't realize that adobe actually says to "avoid" this?

I've actually tried this and have experienced some problems. Nasty ones. My PC runs WindowsXP with Adobe Premiere 6.01. I've got pretty decent hardware. I never expereince crashes...system runs smoothly. Well, guess I should say, hardly crashes.

BUT...I experienced my first serious crash after about so many months...and all because I mixed 32 and 48 khz audio in a premiere project.

It's been awhile since I've tried but from what I remember sometimes I can mix audio formats if I start with a 32 khz project. Sometimes is the key. If I started with a 48 khz project and imported video that included audio that was less than 48 khz...my machine would crash horribly. OR it could have been the other way around now that I'm thinking about it. It may have crashed from starting with a 32 khz and importing 48khz.

In any case, be careful. I would just fool around with it. There are some workarounds you can do but it's just something you have to play around with.

fargograf · March 12th, 2002, 04:49 PM

I wonder if a 32 k file can be "converted" to a 48 k file? Anyone know?

Rob Lohman · March 13th, 2002, 05:41 AM

Yes, that is possible. But you really want to avoid conversions
in sample rate. Any conversions for that matter, whether
sample rate, video fps or video resolution. Any conversion is
always bad to have (i'm not going to talk about compression
here!). But if really needed, it can be done! Try to get the
best audio applications or plug-ins to do this for you! I doubt
Premiere will have the routines todo this good. It isn't an
audio package afterall. I heard Steinberg WaveLab is pretty
good. But I suggest listening to a true audio expert or asking
one about this.

Ed Smith · March 13th, 2002, 12:26 PM

You can use sound recorder which comes with windows.

load the file in, click file>save as>> change, then choose the quality (CD quality), click ok and there we go.

Hope this helps,

Ed Smith

Adrian Douglas · March 26th, 2002, 08:52 AM

For anyone using Premiere this guide is quite useful.

http://www.adobe.com/support/techguides/premiere/main.html

Ed Smith · March 26th, 2002, 12:59 PM

Cheers for the link Adrian

Nathan Gifford · April 1st, 2002, 11:52 AM

I use Cinestream and not Premiere. However, the same techniques may apply.

In CS the general advice is to reserve a certain audio tracks for different sampling rates. Mixing different audio rates in the same tracks is well known for causing unusual and undesirable audio effects. By reserving these tracks for 32KHz these problems are avoided.

When rendering to the master audio track (AP) which can be set to 48KHz for the project, the system mixes the audio without resampling.

I am sure that probably applies for Premiere as well.

Nathan Gifford

February 24th, 2002, 08:26 PM	#32
Dan Dorsey Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 43	DR_Pepper_78, STILL NO LUCK! I need to get some sleep this week, but I can't turn out projects with this mess. When I play it back it will go to the "blue no signal" screen of my VCR and then play through again creating that jump cut. Some times it will hiccup, and then go into a fast-forward mode. I have read about other people experiencing the same kinds of problems. My Premiere software is not exactly store bought either which may be part of the problem. __________________ Dan

February 25th, 2002, 01:56 PM	#34
Adam Lawrence _redone_ Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 224	editing ive never imported premiere projects into after effects due to that reason.. i usually do all my color corrections, effects ect. in after effects. then render a new avi to go to premiere for edit.. then output from there.... or vice versa i guess..

February 26th, 2002, 03:53 AM	#35
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	only problem with that is space & time. If I want todo that and not loose any quality I need to export either uncompressed or in a lossless format (ie, not DV). This takes muchos diskspace and time. Not ideal. I have been rethinking my problem. I only have like 4 dissolves or something. The rest are all straight cuts which After Effects has no problems with. So it is not too much work todo those 4 manually. Too bad After Effects cannot run inside Premiere (or vice versa) as a plugin.. Oh well.... keep on dreaming __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

February 26th, 2002, 02:16 PM	#36
Adam Lawrence _redone_ Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 224	dv yup.. thats the only down fall is space and rendering time ... but if you figure out a way to import projects from premiere flawlessly then let me know... i found using the microsoft DV compressor works well.. not the best but it makes for a good compression without a noticable loss of quality...and doesnt take up much space.

March 12th, 2002, 11:27 AM	#38
fargograf Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 42	Premiere 6 and 32/48khz audio Has anyone mixed 32 and 48 khz audio in a premiere project? Adobe says to "avoid" mixing the two...but they don't say "you can't" ! I'd like to know what the possible problems that mixing would cause. (I'd like to export the finished project at 48K) (Love this website!)

February 23rd, 2002, 10:19 PM	#31
Justin Walter Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Justin Walter - Salt Lake City Posts: 51	This happens to me on more complicated projects when I try to play an exported video, or just previewing the timeline. It has never happended when I use the 'Print to Tape' (not sure if that is exactly what it is called). Sorry, caffine is killing my memory - You go to 'file', 'export', 'Print to Tape'. Try that if you haven't already and let me know what happens.

February 25th, 2002, 03:44 AM	#33
Bradley Miller Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Rockwall, TX, USA Posts: 77	Try this. FILE/EXPORT/MOVIE/MICROSOFT DV AVI Then when it is finished, simply do FILE/OPEN/...and select that file you just created. It will open up in a new window and just press "play" and should play back perfectly smooth. Give it a shot and let me know if that works for you.

March 10th, 2002, 02:11 PM	#37
Andrew Leigh Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 220	Many times the system is O.K. but we leave applications running in the background, often we are not aware that these resources are running. Make sure virus checkers and other such applications are not running and sucking resources away. Andrew

March 12th, 2002, 02:30 PM	#39
mdreyes23 Registration Incomplete -- contact Admin. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 108	I didn't realize that adobe actually says to "avoid" this? I've actually tried this and have experienced some problems. Nasty ones. My PC runs WindowsXP with Adobe Premiere 6.01. I've got pretty decent hardware. I never expereince crashes...system runs smoothly. Well, guess I should say, hardly crashes. BUT...I experienced my first serious crash after about so many months...and all because I mixed 32 and 48 khz audio in a premiere project. It's been awhile since I've tried but from what I remember sometimes I can mix audio formats if I start with a 32 khz project. Sometimes is the key. If I started with a 48 khz project and imported video that included audio that was less than 48 khz...my machine would crash horribly. OR it could have been the other way around now that I'm thinking about it. It may have crashed from starting with a 32 khz and importing 48khz. In any case, be careful. I would just fool around with it. There are some workarounds you can do but it's just something you have to play around with.

March 12th, 2002, 04:49 PM	#40
fargograf Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 42	mixed audio I wonder if a 32 k file can be "converted" to a 48 k file? Anyone know?

March 13th, 2002, 05:41 AM	#41
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Yes, that is possible. But you really want to avoid conversions in sample rate. Any conversions for that matter, whether sample rate, video fps or video resolution. Any conversion is always bad to have (i'm not going to talk about compression here!). But if really needed, it can be done! Try to get the best audio applications or plug-ins to do this for you! I doubt Premiere will have the routines todo this good. It isn't an audio package afterall. I heard Steinberg WaveLab is pretty good. But I suggest listening to a true audio expert or asking one about this. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 13th, 2002, 12:26 PM	#42
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	You can use sound recorder which comes with windows. load the file in, click file>save as>> change, then choose the quality (CD quality), click ok and there we go. Hope this helps, Ed Smith

March 26th, 2002, 08:52 AM	#43
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Premiere users For anyone using Premiere this guide is quite useful. http://www.adobe.com/support/techguides/premiere/main.html __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

March 26th, 2002, 12:59 PM	#44
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Cheers for the link Adrian

April 1st, 2002, 11:52 AM	#45
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	It may depend on what track it is in. I use Cinestream and not Premiere. However, the same techniques may apply. In CS the general advice is to reserve a certain audio tracks for different sampling rates. Mixing different audio rates in the same tracks is well known for causing unusual and undesirable audio effects. By reserving these tracks for 32KHz these problems are avoided. When rendering to the master audio track (AP) which can be set to 48KHz for the project, the system mixes the audio without resampling. I am sure that probably applies for Premiere as well. Nathan Gifford