New features in Premiere CS4 at DVinfo.net

Jiri Fiala · September 23rd, 2008, 04:45 AM

They look awesome! If they have fixed all (or at least some) those little annoyances and bad memory management, Premiere will be right on track with FCP, if not better.

Adobe Premiere Pro CS4: Printable overview

Bart Walczak · September 23rd, 2008, 05:42 AM

If the program is stable, then it is one of the best updates ever.

Jiri Fiala · September 23rd, 2008, 06:37 AM

I don`t hold my breath though... It`s like Pinnacle Studio - the higher the version, the less stable it is :(

Mitchell Skurnik · September 23rd, 2008, 08:21 AM

CS2 was more stable than 1.5 though cs3 is a bit less stable than cs2 it was nowhere near 1.5. Just hope that they fix all the bugs in the current version.

Jeff Anselmo · September 23rd, 2008, 11:45 AM

Do you folks know when CS4 will be available?

Best,

Tripp Woelfel · September 23rd, 2008, 12:29 PM

According to the Adobe press release, GA is next month.

What I find interesting is that the information on their Web site does very little to quantify the new features/enhancements available in PP and the other products. The only things that jumped out at me was support for more video formats and a new UI.

After spending five minutes cruising thru the announcement material, this appears to be an evolutionary upgrade with most of the new functionality aimed at the high-end user. It addresses some of the existing shortcomings like lack of AVHCD support, but nothing that changes the world.

I'll have to go through the announcement materials tonight to be sure, but I'm not yet prepared to run out and spend US$599 to upgrade from CS3.

Bill Ravens · September 23rd, 2008, 12:35 PM

I sat thru the entire boring presentation, which was populated by a) Adobe employees b) the Adobe faithful

I saw very little of substance, nor can I find any list of upgrades. Other than the rather esoteric comment"...a complete re-write", and the mention of being supported by GPU's.

Considering the cost of Adobe products, I think I'll sit this one out, unless something more concrete shows up.

Nick Stone · September 23rd, 2008, 01:49 PM

What do you think about the new version? I cant help thinking that PP looks like FCP. Come to think of it, it was designed by the same persons, wasn’t it?

With theses up grades will this be a contender to Avid and FCP in the market.

Nick

Tripp Woelfel · September 23rd, 2008, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ravens

I saw very little of substance, nor can I find any list of upgrades. Other than the rather esoteric comment"...a complete re-write", and the mention of being supported by GPU's.

Ahh. A complete re-write. That could either be a very good thing or a very bad thing. As many PP users will attest, the legacy of bugs in the product and its relative difficulty in handling any MPEG media formats, particularly HDV, a re-write could increase the user workflow speed to a valuable degree. (Read: less time spent re-booting and waiting for MPEG files to conform and index.)

If CS4 continues the suite's reliance upon MainConcept codecs, it's unlikely that we'll see any appreciable video improvements. A separate inspection of the latest offerings from MC would be needed to see if there's any new good in there.

I'm not budgeting upgrade dollars now but I might get a large glass jar into which I can put pocket change just in case.

Adam Gold · September 23rd, 2008, 03:35 PM

Here's an interesting side by side comparison chart showing CS3 and CS4...

Adobe Premiere Pro CS4: Upgrade

Jon McGuffin · September 23rd, 2008, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Gold

Here's an interesting side by side comparison chart showing CS3 and CS4...

Adobe Premiere Pro CS4: Upgrade

haha

In reviewing this, I really like how they have the following as a feature of CS4 but lacking in CS3.

"Sleek new application appearance - New"

How do you quantify that objectively? Do you suppose when they released CS3 they viewed that product on release as not having a sleek application appearance?

Just one of those things you have to find your way through to get to the meat of what you're really getting with this product.

Jon

Eric Addison · September 23rd, 2008, 05:34 PM

I've gone through a lot of the material, and to me it looks like a great version. I'm really looking forward to using it. There are a lot of enhancements and upgrades, and if it all functions as they say, it'll be very much worth upgrading from CS3.

K.C. Luke · September 23rd, 2008, 05:52 PM

Looking forward to upgrade.

Jiri Fiala · September 23rd, 2008, 08:41 PM

Preview Zoom Level (Focus in Avid), Track Sync Locks and making subclips from timeline are great new editing workflow improvements to already great editing tools in Premiere. I would really like if they got it right this time.

Craig Lieberman · September 23rd, 2008, 09:53 PM

What a lame upgrade. They didn't fix any of the main issues:

Can't view HDV files during capturing footage;
PP CS3 hangs up/freezes at 99.98% when rendering any HDV files longer than about 4 minutes;
Hitting the "Cancel" button during any rendering process can take anywhere from 1 minute to never to have the render actually cancel;
When there is a serious error, your work is gone....history, lost. I can't tell you how many hours I've lost on this.

Doing micro edits...another words, 5-10 rapid cuts, each about a half a second or so long, is nearly impossible to have playback smoothly in HDV, rendered or not.

Case in point: for the past two days, I've been trying to render out a 12 minute sequence in HDV. 22650 frames, 297MB. After THREE 12 hour render sessions, Premiere REFUSES to complete the task...it hangs at about 90%.

I'm working on a super fast, trouble free PC. After Effects works flawlessly, Premiere is sucking me dry time wise.

Sorry Adobe, I REALLY want to use your software...it's just too buggy and too time consuming for me to deal with.

September 23rd, 2008, 04:45 AM	#1
Jiri Fiala Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brno Czech Republic Posts: 453	New features in Premiere CS4 They look awesome! If they have fixed all (or at least some) those little annoyances and bad memory management, Premiere will be right on track with FCP, if not better. Adobe Premiere Pro CS4: Printable overview

September 23rd, 2008, 08:21 AM	#4
Mitchell Skurnik Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita, California Posts: 201	CS2 was more stable than 1.5 though cs3 is a bit less stable than cs2 it was nowhere near 1.5. Just hope that they fix all the bugs in the current version. __________________ Mitchell J. Skurnik http://www.mjcsstudios.com/ - EX1, 4x hoodman 16GB, Libec Tripod, Sony LAV

September 23rd, 2008, 11:45 AM	#5
Jeff Anselmo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 566	Do you folks know when CS4 will be available? Best, __________________ --JA

September 23rd, 2008, 05:52 PM	#13
K.C. Luke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 173	Looking forward to upgrade. __________________ Edit on Adobe Creative Suite Production Premium CS5 Mac 64BIT

September 23rd, 2008, 09:53 PM	#15
Craig Lieberman Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ladera Ranch, California Posts: 115	I'm SOO out...in fact, I'm switching to a MAC What a lame upgrade. They didn't fix any of the main issues: Can't view HDV files during capturing footage; PP CS3 hangs up/freezes at 99.98% when rendering any HDV files longer than about 4 minutes; Hitting the "Cancel" button during any rendering process can take anywhere from 1 minute to never to have the render actually cancel; When there is a serious error, your work is gone....history, lost. I can't tell you how many hours I've lost on this. Doing micro edits...another words, 5-10 rapid cuts, each about a half a second or so long, is nearly impossible to have playback smoothly in HDV, rendered or not. Case in point: for the past two days, I've been trying to render out a 12 minute sequence in HDV. 22650 frames, 297MB. After THREE 12 hour render sessions, Premiere REFUSES to complete the task...it hangs at about 90%. I'm working on a super fast, trouble free PC. After Effects works flawlessly, Premiere is sucking me dry time wise. Sorry Adobe, I REALLY want to use your software...it's just too buggy and too time consuming for me to deal with.

September 23rd, 2008, 05:42 AM	#2
Bart Walczak Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Warsaw/Poland Posts: 716	If the program is stable, then it is one of the best updates ever.

September 23rd, 2008, 06:37 AM	#3
Jiri Fiala Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brno Czech Republic Posts: 453	I don`t hold my breath though... It`s like Pinnacle Studio - the higher the version, the less stable it is :(

September 23rd, 2008, 12:29 PM	#6
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	According to the Adobe press release, GA is next month. What I find interesting is that the information on their Web site does very little to quantify the new features/enhancements available in PP and the other products. The only things that jumped out at me was support for more video formats and a new UI. After spending five minutes cruising thru the announcement material, this appears to be an evolutionary upgrade with most of the new functionality aimed at the high-end user. It addresses some of the existing shortcomings like lack of AVHCD support, but nothing that changes the world. I'll have to go through the announcement materials tonight to be sure, but I'm not yet prepared to run out and spend US$599 to upgrade from CS3.

September 23rd, 2008, 12:35 PM	#7
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	I sat thru the entire boring presentation, which was populated by a) Adobe employees b) the Adobe faithful I saw very little of substance, nor can I find any list of upgrades. Other than the rather esoteric comment"...a complete re-write", and the mention of being supported by GPU's. Considering the cost of Adobe products, I think I'll sit this one out, unless something more concrete shows up.

September 23rd, 2008, 01:49 PM	#8
Nick Stone Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 133	What do you think about the new version? I cant help thinking that PP looks like FCP. Come to think of it, it was designed by the same persons, wasn’t it? With theses up grades will this be a contender to Avid and FCP in the market. Nick

September 23rd, 2008, 03:35 PM	#10
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Here's an interesting side by side comparison chart showing CS3 and CS4... Adobe Premiere Pro CS4: Upgrade

September 23rd, 2008, 05:34 PM	#12
Eric Addison Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 74	I've gone through a lot of the material, and to me it looks like a great version. I'm really looking forward to using it. There are a lot of enhancements and upgrades, and if it all functions as they say, it'll be very much worth upgrading from CS3.

September 23rd, 2008, 08:41 PM	#14
Jiri Fiala Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brno Czech Republic Posts: 453	Preview Zoom Level (Focus in Avid), Track Sync Locks and making subclips from timeline are great new editing workflow improvements to already great editing tools in Premiere. I would really like if they got it right this time.