HDV project to SD DVD

[Mitchell Skurnik]

Get a PC! I never have these kinds of problems with Premiere

[Adam Slaght]

Wish it were that easy..too invested in this sytem already.

Half way through the recapture in sd so hopefully somewhere around 11 tonight I will have the re-edit done.

[Adam Slaght]

Well after a total recapture and re-edit of the project in to SD that lasted till midnight. I still am unable to render anything longer than 3 minutes.

Just completed a reinstall of Premire Pro and that too did not work.

Next option is to try and drop it in After Effects and see if I cna render out of there.

If anyone has any advice please chime in, as Production Premium Suite is seriuosly trying to get itself on ebay.

[Mitchell Skurnik]

Have you tried to install all of the recent updates from adobe?

[Adam Slaght]

Yep running PP 3.2

I am now under the impression that it is the system somehow.

[Mitchell Skurnik]

Yeah...what is your hard drive set up. It sounds like it might be an access problem. I don't know much about macs but there should be a way to disable all power saving modes...that might fix it.

If your editing off your local drive...well thats your problem, you really should be editing off of a RAID 0 array. Firewire or e-sata since it is a laptop.

[Adam Slaght]

project on local, media all on external 500gb esata drive

[Herman Van Deventer]

Adam -

Not heavy into the MAC scenario , but try the following - Turn off any power
save options as well as screensaver.

Question - The external drive - Is it formatted as FAT 32 OR NTFS ?

[Paolo Ciccone]

The Mac OS has its own file system, called HFS, it has journaling features as well as supporting all the standard Unix file aatributes

[Adam Slaght]

Well Paolo and others,

I finally found a fix...a very expensive one, but a fix.

I bought a new Mac Pro(dual 2.8 quads) 6gb ram and 1.82T of hardrive space.

I am pushing the deadline to Monday and redoing entire project on the new system, capture to render.

Hopefully this should have relieved any problemm...except the bill.

[Todd Clark]

Your problem is the external drive. That is never a good idea.
Instead of buying a new computer you could of solved it with putting an internal drive in.

[Tripp Woelfel]

I'm going to chime in here because of my very personal and unsuccessful experience over the last six months trying to edit HD with PP. It's analogous to a Roach Motel. Video checks in, but it can't check out. Oh yeah, then it crashes and may corrupt your project but you have no way of knowing because there's no way to know.

I've edited in both HDV and Cineform. The crashes are too numerous to get anything done in a timely manner. And no... my system is no slug. Quad Core 6600, selective startup, all the Adobe tuning tips. It won't successfully export but once for every four of five tries. About six hours on the phone with Adobe helped, but didn't resolve. Not for their lack of effort. Cineform support was virtually useless.

Oh, by the way I've tried rendering output to Cineform, H.264, wmv, QT, DV, MPEG-2. They will all fail more often than not. And one more thing. This happens on not one, but two Vista machines. An older XP dual core laptop is much happier, but not always.

This rant has a purpose, other than to lower my blood pressure. It's to save you grief and wasted time. Debugging HD in Premier can be a career. The only way I'll try HD again is if I have time and resources to somehow stress test the system over a period of weeks, editing and rendering all the while.

In reverting to DV, I was able to fully produce a 97 minute auto racing piece (edit, cc, multi-cam, titles, graphics and sweeten) in 1.5 days. The previous program (similar content, length and production elements) took eight days to finish and then the only way I could get any footage out was to down-res by exporting each segment to DV. So for me, it's SD.

Maybe it'll work in CS4 or Vista Service pack 9.

[Mitchell Skurnik]

I have been editing HD on Premiere for almost 3 years now with great success. The most important thing is your hard drive. You need internal drives at least 3 SCSI 10,000rpm drives set in raid 0.