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Tripp Woelfel · April 28th, 2008, 01:42 PM

Having grown frustrated with capturing issues in CS3, I thought that I'd use HDVSplit to capture tapes and split scenes. Now that I've done that for about 7 hours of video, how do I get the m2t files into PP?

I tried importing them into a PP HDV 1080 60i project and it laughs at me. Well actually reports two errors and then brings up the importing video dialog but never makes any progress. Do I have to go through some sort of file conversion first?

Adam Gold · April 28th, 2008, 03:01 PM

I thought PP did m2t natively. Am I wrong about that? Never used any version without Cineform so I never tried m2t import or capture...

Tripp Woelfel · April 28th, 2008, 03:11 PM

Adam... You're right. PP CS3 is supposed to handle m2t files natively. It's just in my case, it's not. I'm wondering if I've done something wrong here.

Don't start me on Cineform. I'm on my second trial on a second machine and once again it's going down the gurgler.

Adam Gold · April 28th, 2008, 03:15 PM

If you're having trouble with both Premiere and Cineform, could it be a system issue? What are your system specs? Could it be a Vista problem?

Otherwise, the only times I run into trouble with Premiere are when I've got a settings mismatch somewhere...

Harm Millaard · April 28th, 2008, 03:26 PM

Tripp,

I use CS3 and HDVSplit and haven't got problems importing into CS3. The one thing I noticed in comparison to DV material, is that HDV tapes show a lot more dropped frames than DV, which was the cause for the audio-sync problems. Whether that is format specific or has to do with the tapes, I don't know.

Tripp Woelfel · April 28th, 2008, 04:52 PM

Adam... I'm not going there with Cineform. I'm simply finished with them.

Harm... I'm not having any dropout or a/v syncing issues. Dropouts are a bit more distressing with HDV than DV which are related to cam, tape, deck and long GOP HDV format. I just can't import the m2t files from HDVSplit which has led me back to just using PP for capturing. I'll figure out how to split the scenes later.

Sounds like I'll be making a call to Adobe support on the morrow unless someone has a bright idea about why my CS3 doesn't like m2t files...

Colin Pearce · April 28th, 2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripp Woelfel

Well actually reports two errors and then brings up the importing video dialog but never makes any progress.

I only capture with HDVsplit. I have CS3, one copy on an XP machine and one on Vista. I have not bought any product from Cineform (as it's too expensive, imho).

I do not have any problems. The HDVsplit files seem to be every bit as good (if not better) than CS3-captured files. CS3 gives me no indication that they are any different.

It may help if you tell us what the error messages say.

Lloyd Coleman · April 28th, 2008, 10:42 PM

As soon as you start PPro hold down the shift key while the program loads and see if you can import the m2t files then.

K.C. Luke · April 29th, 2008, 03:59 AM

I used PPCS3 edit m2t no problem so far. Capture on Vegas 7. PPCS3 capture will only be mpg2 file and can't preview on PROGRAM monitor. Vegas 7 no problem on that. Machine using DELL VOSTRO 400 Quad 3GB RAM.

Tripp Woelfel · April 29th, 2008, 04:47 AM

Lloyd... I'll try that and see if it works.

K. C... Clearly I'm having a problem that's somewhat unique to my system. Maybe I'll just shoot it and put it out of my misery.

Ervin Farkas · April 29th, 2008, 05:47 AM

First things first: do the m2t files play fine in other applications? If not, obviously you have issues with the files themselves and not with Premiere. You have to split your search in order to identify the offending segment.

I used HDV files captured with HDVSplit in various applications (including Premiere, Encore, Edius, Procoder, Sorenson Squeeze, MPEG Streamclip, to name a few) without any problems.

Tripp Woelfel · April 29th, 2008, 07:51 PM

Lloyd had the key. I held the shift key down when I started PP this morning and now everything's all good. Thanks for the suggestions.

Lloyd Coleman · April 29th, 2008, 08:45 PM

I don't know the whole story on that error message, but I get it too. I know that if I uninstall Quicktime I don't have the problem. It may also have something to do with the Quicktime/Cineform combination. When you start Premiere while holding down the shift key it refreshes the plug-in list and then it works o.k. - at least for a while - then you have to do it again.

For me I found that it was not only on m2t files, but HD mpeg files if they were moved. What that means is, if I captured HD in Premiere and then opened the files in the same project it was o.k., but if I then move those files to another location or tried to open files that were captured in a different project I would get the error message.

April 28th, 2008, 01:42 PM	#1
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	PP CS3 and HDVSplit files Having grown frustrated with capturing issues in CS3, I thought that I'd use HDVSplit to capture tapes and split scenes. Now that I've done that for about 7 hours of video, how do I get the m2t files into PP? I tried importing them into a PP HDV 1080 60i project and it laughs at me. Well actually reports two errors and then brings up the importing video dialog but never makes any progress. Do I have to go through some sort of file conversion first?

April 29th, 2008, 03:59 AM	#9
K.C. Luke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 173	I used PPCS3 edit m2t no problem so far. Capture on Vegas 7. PPCS3 capture will only be mpg2 file and can't preview on PROGRAM monitor. Vegas 7 no problem on that. Machine using DELL VOSTRO 400 Quad 3GB RAM. __________________ Edit on Adobe Creative Suite Production Premium CS5 Mac 64BIT

April 29th, 2008, 05:47 AM	#11
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	First things first: do the m2t files play fine in other applications? If not, obviously you have issues with the files themselves and not with Premiere. You have to split your search in order to identify the offending segment. I used HDV files captured with HDVSplit in various applications (including Premiere, Encore, Edius, Procoder, Sorenson Squeeze, MPEG Streamclip, to name a few) without any problems. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

April 28th, 2008, 03:01 PM	#2
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	I thought PP did m2t natively. Am I wrong about that? Never used any version without Cineform so I never tried m2t import or capture...

April 28th, 2008, 03:11 PM	#3
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Adam... You're right. PP CS3 is supposed to handle m2t files natively. It's just in my case, it's not. I'm wondering if I've done something wrong here. Don't start me on Cineform. I'm on my second trial on a second machine and once again it's going down the gurgler.

April 28th, 2008, 03:15 PM	#4
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	If you're having trouble with both Premiere and Cineform, could it be a system issue? What are your system specs? Could it be a Vista problem? Otherwise, the only times I run into trouble with Premiere are when I've got a settings mismatch somewhere...

April 28th, 2008, 03:26 PM	#5
Harm Millaard Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands Posts: 1,832	Tripp, I use CS3 and HDVSplit and haven't got problems importing into CS3. The one thing I noticed in comparison to DV material, is that HDV tapes show a lot more dropped frames than DV, which was the cause for the audio-sync problems. Whether that is format specific or has to do with the tapes, I don't know.

April 28th, 2008, 04:52 PM	#6
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Adam... I'm not going there with Cineform. I'm simply finished with them. Harm... I'm not having any dropout or a/v syncing issues. Dropouts are a bit more distressing with HDV than DV which are related to cam, tape, deck and long GOP HDV format. I just can't import the m2t files from HDVSplit which has led me back to just using PP for capturing. I'll figure out how to split the scenes later. Sounds like I'll be making a call to Adobe support on the morrow unless someone has a bright idea about why my CS3 doesn't like m2t files...

April 28th, 2008, 10:42 PM	#8
Lloyd Coleman Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 256	As soon as you start PPro hold down the shift key while the program loads and see if you can import the m2t files then.

April 29th, 2008, 04:47 AM	#10
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Lloyd... I'll try that and see if it works. K. C... Clearly I'm having a problem that's somewhat unique to my system. Maybe I'll just shoot it and put it out of my misery.

April 29th, 2008, 07:51 PM	#12
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	Lloyd had the key. I held the shift key down when I started PP this morning and now everything's all good. Thanks for the suggestions.

April 29th, 2008, 08:45 PM	#13
Lloyd Coleman Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 256	I don't know the whole story on that error message, but I get it too. I know that if I uninstall Quicktime I don't have the problem. It may also have something to do with the Quicktime/Cineform combination. When you start Premiere while holding down the shift key it refreshes the plug-in list and then it works o.k. - at least for a while - then you have to do it again. For me I found that it was not only on m2t files, but HD mpeg files if they were moved. What that means is, if I captured HD in Premiere and then opened the files in the same project it was o.k., but if I then move those files to another location or tried to open files that were captured in a different project I would get the error message.