Odd Behaviour with HDV1080 25p Footage in 720p Project at DVinfo.net

Daniel Raebiger · April 18th, 2008, 01:12 PM

Hey Folks,

since a few days i have the strangest problem: i usually work with 1080 25f footage shot with a canon xh a1 (in 25f mode) in a HDV720p25 project within premiere. It all worked just fine but now i get a odd bar in my picture that mirrors another part of the same frame.

i've attached an image of the error. this happens with both my editing machines so it does not seem related to a local issue...

i've noticed that if i force the aspect of the 1080p footage to 1:1 the bar is gone but that does not really help me with editing ;)

thanks!
daniel

Roger Averdahl · April 19th, 2008, 02:14 AM

Daniel, do you use Premiere Pro CS3, updated to 3.2?

Daniel Raebiger · April 19th, 2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Roger Averdahl

Daniel, do you use Premiere Pro CS3, updated to 3.2?

i do. do you have the same problem since upgrading? the release notes advertised the 3.2 release with 'better mpeg handling'^^

Roger Averdahl · April 19th, 2008, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Raebiger

i do. do you have the same problem since upgrading?

O.k!

No, personally i dont have the same problem but i have seen this very issue with PPro 3.2 and 25F footage from the XH-A1. I am afraid that i dont know any way around this issue, but if i find one i will post it here.

Daniel Raebiger · April 19th, 2008, 03:36 AM

Thanks!

from what i read on the official adobe forums the 3.2 update seems to cause tons of crashes, import errors as well. gonna uninstall today and report back :)

Scott Gold · April 28th, 2008, 09:59 AM

Daniel,
I'm getting the same thing.
Whenever I export to a Quicktime movie using the adobe media encoder I get the same looking footage. It looks like it's tiling on the right hand side.
This doesn't happen with any other sizes I try, only 1920 x 1080.
I also can't export uncomressed avi's now.

Input: XH-A1 24F 1080 HDV
Output: Quicktime H.264 1920X1080 23.964fps ACC 10mbps

What is Adobe doing to our software??????

Daniel Raebiger · April 28th, 2008, 10:22 AM

exactly the same here - haven't found a solution yet despite uninstalling the entire adobe stuff and reinstalling, using the 3.0.0 version (which sucks big time) cause the manual 3.1 update won't work.

:/

Scott Gold · April 29th, 2008, 02:36 PM

Anyone else out there getting this problem?
Any solutions?

Daniel Raebiger · May 16th, 2008, 09:15 AM

nothing for me yet. uninstalling and reinstalling in 3.0.0 version doesnt remove the problem, updating to 3.1 doesnt work. only way i've got was a complete reinstall of the system and manually applying the 3.1 patch. but i have some concerns about stability here...

sucks to have a x1 these days :(

Daniel Raebiger · June 2nd, 2008, 04:11 PM

any news on your end? i am currently reinstalling my system and want to make the right move... ;)

Scott Gold · June 2nd, 2008, 04:13 PM

Nope nothing yet, I'd love to get an update from Adobe to fix this.
We can't be the only ones here with this issue.

Daniel Raebiger · June 23rd, 2008, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Gold

Nope nothing yet, I'd love to get an update from Adobe to fix this.
We can't be the only ones here with this issue.

still nothing man... this seriously sucks. for nearly three months now we are unable to use our canon with premiere. :(

Scott Gold · June 23rd, 2008, 08:14 AM

I can't believe problems go on this long with Adobe. We can't be the only ones having this issue.

Eric Addison · June 23rd, 2008, 08:58 AM

Sorry - I did a test and it's not happening to me.

Daniel Raebiger · December 5th, 2008, 11:52 AM

Has anyone tried with CS4? :)

April 18th, 2008, 01:12 PM	#1
Daniel Raebiger Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Landshut, Germany Posts: 143	Odd Behaviour with HDV1080 25p Footage in 720p Project Hey Folks, since a few days i have the strangest problem: i usually work with 1080 25f footage shot with a canon xh a1 (in 25f mode) in a HDV720p25 project within premiere. It all worked just fine but now i get a odd bar in my picture that mirrors another part of the same frame. i've attached an image of the error. this happens with both my editing machines so it does not seem related to a local issue... i've noticed that if i force the aspect of the 1080p footage to 1:1 the bar is gone but that does not really help me with editing ;) thanks! daniel Attached Thumbnails __________________ Important notice: There's still soup left!

April 19th, 2008, 02:14 AM	#2
Roger Averdahl Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Stockholm - Sweden Posts: 344	Daniel, do you use Premiere Pro CS3, updated to 3.2? __________________ /Roger

April 19th, 2008, 03:36 AM	#5
Daniel Raebiger Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Landshut, Germany Posts: 143	Thanks! from what i read on the official adobe forums the 3.2 update seems to cause tons of crashes, import errors as well. gonna uninstall today and report back :) __________________ Important notice: There's still soup left!

April 28th, 2008, 09:59 AM	#6
Scott Gold Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 194	Daniel, I'm getting the same thing. Whenever I export to a Quicktime movie using the adobe media encoder I get the same looking footage. It looks like it's tiling on the right hand side. This doesn't happen with any other sizes I try, only 1920 x 1080. I also can't export uncomressed avi's now. Input: XH-A1 24F 1080 HDV Output: Quicktime H.264 1920X1080 23.964fps ACC 10mbps What is Adobe doing to our software?????? Attached Thumbnails __________________ www.scott-gold.com

April 28th, 2008, 10:22 AM	#7
Daniel Raebiger Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Landshut, Germany Posts: 143	exactly the same here - haven't found a solution yet despite uninstalling the entire adobe stuff and reinstalling, using the 3.0.0 version (which sucks big time) cause the manual 3.1 update won't work. :/ __________________ Important notice: There's still soup left!

April 29th, 2008, 02:36 PM	#8
Scott Gold Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 194	Anyone else out there getting this problem? Any solutions? __________________ www.scott-gold.com

May 16th, 2008, 09:15 AM	#9
Daniel Raebiger Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Landshut, Germany Posts: 143	nothing for me yet. uninstalling and reinstalling in 3.0.0 version doesnt remove the problem, updating to 3.1 doesnt work. only way i've got was a complete reinstall of the system and manually applying the 3.1 patch. but i have some concerns about stability here... sucks to have a x1 these days :( __________________ Important notice: There's still soup left!

June 2nd, 2008, 04:11 PM	#10
Daniel Raebiger Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Landshut, Germany Posts: 143	any news on your end? i am currently reinstalling my system and want to make the right move... ;) __________________ Important notice: There's still soup left!

June 2nd, 2008, 04:13 PM	#11
Scott Gold Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 194	Nope nothing yet, I'd love to get an update from Adobe to fix this. We can't be the only ones here with this issue. __________________ www.scott-gold.com

June 23rd, 2008, 08:14 AM	#13
Scott Gold Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 194	I can't believe problems go on this long with Adobe. We can't be the only ones having this issue. __________________ www.scott-gold.com

June 23rd, 2008, 08:58 AM	#14
Eric Addison Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 74	Sorry - I did a test and it's not happening to me.

December 5th, 2008, 11:52 AM	#15
Daniel Raebiger Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Landshut, Germany Posts: 143	Has anyone tried with CS4? :) __________________ Important notice: There's still soup left!