HDV to FLV bad quality when exporting using Adobe Media Encoder at DVinfo.net

Jimmy Conway · January 23rd, 2008, 01:28 AM

I am trying to convert my edited HDV video from Premiere CS3 to FLV using Adobe Media Encoder. So far the quality of the video has been coming out very bad. Worst than a youtube clip. I tried to export a SD clip to FLV and it was much better than the HDV to FLV.

I have been going at this for three days straight and I can't seem to get the FLV files nearly as good as that "HD" look I've seen in other flash vidoes. Now when I export it as a high bitrate at say 6000 then I get DECENT quality but the file ends up being 100MBs. What am I doing wrong? I've have tried Sorenson Squeeze trial and it also yielded decent results with a 1600 bitrate and smaller size.

As for specs. I am using a Sony FX1 captured through Premiere CS3 as a MPEG. I'm guessing it has to do something with the capturing? Also, if I recapture in another format (if possible) will I have to re-edit the video?

Any help is greatly appreciated because I am tired of losing so much sleep over this. Thanks!

P.S. this is my first time working with HDV.

Tripp Woelfel · January 23rd, 2008, 07:04 AM

I too have just started working with HD flv and have not experienced the problems you describe. The only thing that comes to mind is the the Flash encoder may not compress your particular HD video as well as Spark. There are some, with much more experience than I, who believe that the 3rd party encoders are much better than the ones embedded within NLEs. This could be your issue.

That said, I just threw together the first thing I ever shot with my XH A1 and output it to flv and the results were pretty good. Output was 720p, which for Web delivery is about all you need. There were a few new blocky artifacts that showed up in fades to and from black, but nothing serious. The footage was from a local fair and ranged from interior shots with limited action to harness races is bright sunshine.

You might want to try getting a short clip of really clean HD footage and trying again. There might be something about your current footage that is tripping up the codec.

Jimmy Conway · January 24th, 2008, 12:10 AM

The weird thing is the high res jpgs that are in the video come out crystal clear. It out shines the actual video footage. Which isn't necessary a good thing.

Ari Perilstein · March 25th, 2008, 08:52 PM

Hello,

I have had the same issue. I cut a great 5 min piece captured at HDV and edited in HDV on cs3 and tried to ouput as flash. Usually I do DV and it comes out so much better. It looks so crappy and need to get it up for clients to see. Did you ever figure out the issue? Thanks for any help you can give me.

Julian Maytum · March 28th, 2008, 11:51 PM

Do yourself a favour and buy Flix Pro.. amazing piece of software. The "dumbed down" version is what comes with Premiere. The standalone Pro is outstanding and does two passes etc.

http://www.on2.com/index.php?365

All I can say is I have had outstanding results with both DV and HDV as well as other video formats.

Julian

Jiri Fiala · March 29th, 2008, 08:15 AM

Thanks Julian, Flix seems very nice!

January 23rd, 2008, 01:28 AM	#1
Jimmy Conway Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 50	HDV to FLV bad quality when exporting using Adobe Media Encoder I am trying to convert my edited HDV video from Premiere CS3 to FLV using Adobe Media Encoder. So far the quality of the video has been coming out very bad. Worst than a youtube clip. I tried to export a SD clip to FLV and it was much better than the HDV to FLV. I have been going at this for three days straight and I can't seem to get the FLV files nearly as good as that "HD" look I've seen in other flash vidoes. Now when I export it as a high bitrate at say 6000 then I get DECENT quality but the file ends up being 100MBs. What am I doing wrong? I've have tried Sorenson Squeeze trial and it also yielded decent results with a 1600 bitrate and smaller size. As for specs. I am using a Sony FX1 captured through Premiere CS3 as a MPEG. I'm guessing it has to do something with the capturing? Also, if I recapture in another format (if possible) will I have to re-edit the video? Any help is greatly appreciated because I am tired of losing so much sleep over this. Thanks! P.S. this is my first time working with HDV.

March 25th, 2008, 08:52 PM	#4
Ari Perilstein New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 13	figure it out? Hello, I have had the same issue. I cut a great 5 min piece captured at HDV and edited in HDV on cs3 and tried to ouput as flash. Usually I do DV and it comes out so much better. It looks so crappy and need to get it up for clients to see. Did you ever figure out the issue? Thanks for any help you can give me.

March 28th, 2008, 11:51 PM	#5
Julian Maytum Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mount Pearl, NL, Canada Posts: 69	Flix Pro Do yourself a favour and buy Flix Pro.. amazing piece of software. The "dumbed down" version is what comes with Premiere. The standalone Pro is outstanding and does two passes etc. http://www.on2.com/index.php?365 All I can say is I have had outstanding results with both DV and HDV as well as other video formats. Julian __________________ Julian Maytum www.MyWebMovie.com

January 23rd, 2008, 07:04 AM	#2
Tripp Woelfel Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Conway, NH Posts: 1,745	I too have just started working with HD flv and have not experienced the problems you describe. The only thing that comes to mind is the the Flash encoder may not compress your particular HD video as well as Spark. There are some, with much more experience than I, who believe that the 3rd party encoders are much better than the ones embedded within NLEs. This could be your issue. That said, I just threw together the first thing I ever shot with my XH A1 and output it to flv and the results were pretty good. Output was 720p, which for Web delivery is about all you need. There were a few new blocky artifacts that showed up in fades to and from black, but nothing serious. The footage was from a local fair and ranged from interior shots with limited action to harness races is bright sunshine. You might want to try getting a short clip of really clean HD footage and trying again. There might be something about your current footage that is tripping up the codec.

January 24th, 2008, 12:10 AM	#3
Jimmy Conway Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 50	The weird thing is the high res jpgs that are in the video come out crystal clear. It out shines the actual video footage. Which isn't necessary a good thing.

March 29th, 2008, 08:15 AM	#6
Jiri Fiala Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brno Czech Republic Posts: 453	Thanks Julian, Flix seems very nice!