Transitioning with multiple tracks at DVinfo.net

Nicholas Foster · October 14th, 2007, 08:28 PM

I doing a simple 3d photo effect in Premiere where I split a photo into 2 layers in Photoshop and then put each layer into its own track in Premiere, one on top of the other. I applied a slow zoom to each layer at slightly different speeds to give the feel of 3D. The effect is simple and works great, however now I am applying some Dip to Black transitions between photos and its causing the bottom layer to drop out to black as soon as the top track's transition is hit. I applied the transition to both layers, but that may not be the right way to do it. How do I apply the transition so that both layers fade together? Thanks so much.

Carl Middleton · October 14th, 2007, 08:35 PM

Maybe try to nest compositions?

Create a new composition with the 2 layers to create your 3D effect, then take this new composition and drop it into your main timeline, and add the dip to black between the composition you just created and the next clip you want to transition to?

Hope this helps!

C

Bert Smyth · October 14th, 2007, 08:39 PM

The best way to do this is to nest a sequence into another. So create your photo layers with your zoom effects in a sequence, then bring that sequence into another sequence as a single layer. It sounds much more complicated than it really is. You can save all your hard work by just copying your photo layers in your main sequence, making a new sequence, and then paste them in the new sequence with all the zooming still intact. Then nest the new sequence back in your main sequence and apply dip to black.

This video tutorial explains it really well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUbcA_lA2s

Carl just beat me to it... exactly what he said, but in Premiere they're called "Sequences". He probably uses After Effects like I do for this type of thing, where they are called "Compositions", they're the same thing, and Carl is suggesting the same thing I am. I had to check myself as well, because I first typed "compostion" instead of "sequence"... heh!

Nicholas Foster · October 14th, 2007, 08:41 PM

Wow, thats such a simple solution that I just never even thought of. It should definately do the trick. Thanks so much for the quick responses.

Richard Wakefield · October 17th, 2007, 09:21 AM

even easier than that: put a 'black video' on the timeline above the layers, and dissolve it in or out accordingly :)

October 14th, 2007, 08:28 PM	#1
Nicholas Foster Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 47	Transitioning with multiple tracks I doing a simple 3d photo effect in Premiere where I split a photo into 2 layers in Photoshop and then put each layer into its own track in Premiere, one on top of the other. I applied a slow zoom to each layer at slightly different speeds to give the feel of 3D. The effect is simple and works great, however now I am applying some Dip to Black transitions between photos and its causing the bottom layer to drop out to black as soon as the top track's transition is hit. I applied the transition to both layers, but that may not be the right way to do it. How do I apply the transition so that both layers fade together? Thanks so much.

October 14th, 2007, 08:39 PM	#3
Bert Smyth Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 178	The best way to do this is to nest a sequence into another. So create your photo layers with your zoom effects in a sequence, then bring that sequence into another sequence as a single layer. It sounds much more complicated than it really is. You can save all your hard work by just copying your photo layers in your main sequence, making a new sequence, and then paste them in the new sequence with all the zooming still intact. Then nest the new sequence back in your main sequence and apply dip to black. This video tutorial explains it really well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUUbcA_lA2s Carl just beat me to it... exactly what he said, but in Premiere they're called "Sequences". He probably uses After Effects like I do for this type of thing, where they are called "Compositions", they're the same thing, and Carl is suggesting the same thing I am. I had to check myself as well, because I first typed "compostion" instead of "sequence"... heh! Last edited by Bert Smyth; October 14th, 2007 at 08:43 PM. Reason: Carl types faster than I do...

October 14th, 2007, 08:35 PM	#2
Carl Middleton Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 562	Maybe try to nest compositions? Create a new composition with the 2 layers to create your 3D effect, then take this new composition and drop it into your main timeline, and add the dip to black between the composition you just created and the next clip you want to transition to? Hope this helps! C

October 14th, 2007, 08:41 PM	#4
Nicholas Foster Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 47	Wow, thats such a simple solution that I just never even thought of. It should definately do the trick. Thanks so much for the quick responses.

October 17th, 2007, 09:21 AM	#5
Richard Wakefield Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 680	even easier than that: put a 'black video' on the timeline above the layers, and dissolve it in or out accordingly :)