JVC Pro HD and Adobe Premiere Pro at DVinfo.net

Glenn Gipson · April 20th, 2005, 08:15 AM

Premiere will support JVC Pro HD.

Joe Carney · April 20th, 2005, 08:40 AM

Vegas 6 does too.
HDV 24P support is built in to the included Cineform codec.

Greg Gelber · August 3rd, 2005, 02:10 PM

I downloaded the free HDV upgrade for Premiere Pro last night and although there is now an HDV option in the pulldown menu (way cool), the website doesn't have the GY-HD100 listed as a supported camera. No worries though, for years my old digital 8 was never in the listed for camera control so I just used the closest model to get control. Below is the link to download the update.

http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/hdv.html

Philip Hill · August 8th, 2005, 06:24 AM

i found that the update provides for

1080 - 50i and 60i

720 - 30p only

where's the 25p option? (also no support for JVC's 24P HDV)

Thomas Smet · August 8th, 2005, 08:00 AM

It looks like nobody supports 25p or 24p HDV yet. I really hope this is fixed soon.

Steve Mullen · August 8th, 2005, 11:47 AM

CineForm will support 25p and 24p in AspectHD. So the question is in the HDV I/O) routines done by Abobe.

Ian E. Pearson · August 8th, 2005, 08:12 PM

Vegas 6 claims to support all those formats, including 720/24p. I can't back that up though because I haven't tried it.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · August 8th, 2005, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian E. Pearson

Vegas 6 claims to support all those formats, including 720/24p. I can't back that up though because I haven't tried it.

Vegas does support all of the above formats, amongst many others

Scott Webster · August 9th, 2005, 12:03 AM

Unofficial word on the Apple front is roughly a couple of weeks before we see any updates to Final Cut Pro for the JVC. From the sounds of things this will be similar for most other developers.

-Matthew.

David Newman · August 9th, 2005, 08:47 AM

Aspect HD has supported capture and editing the new JVC modes for sometime; several of the JVC sales staff have been using Aspect HD to demonstrate real-time editing of their new camera. The data has been available from JVC for some time so most NLE providers should catch up soon :)

Glenn Johnson · August 9th, 2005, 10:38 AM

How do you get on if you want real time play back on to a HD TV/monitor. Will this be displayed via the graphics card or do you need extra hardware e.g an all singing editing card...

Thanks

David Newman · August 9th, 2005, 11:25 AM

Aspect HD can do it via a dual head graphics card. Prospect HD does it via AJA Xena HDSDI card.

Glenn Johnson · August 9th, 2005, 11:38 AM

So basically I could have Adobe Premiere 1.5 with Aspect HD plug in, a graphics card like Matrox Parhelia and thats all I need to edit HDV 720p. (plus a high spec PC of course) I have been editing DV for a number of years and use a Pinnacle DV500 card. An editing card like this is not necessary then for HDV? The graphics card and processor do all the work? Excuse my naivety, but the whole NLE for HDV is a little confusing for me at present and I work with computers! Im thinking of building my own system, but the whole editing card issue is what I am concerned over. I apreciate your help on this David. Thanks

David Newman · August 9th, 2005, 11:46 AM

Most NLE tools have switched to software approaches to editing rather than hardware acceleration. Aspect HD uses the CPU for all RT decoding and all effects, transitions and color correction, the GPU is only used to output scaling. As a result good CPU helsp (dual core -- more so) and graphics card need not be the most expensive (the Parhelia APVe is a good choice.)

Glenn Johnson · August 9th, 2005, 02:27 PM

David I really appreciate your help on this. So just to confirm - with the matrox card I can play an HDV capture to an external HDTV/monitor from the adobe premiere timeline. Just like I used to be able to with standard DV.

April 20th, 2005, 08:15 AM	#1
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	JVC Pro HD and Adobe Premiere Pro Premiere will support JVC Pro HD.

August 3rd, 2005, 02:10 PM	#3
Greg Gelber New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Knoxville,TN Posts: 17	Gy-HD100 & Premiere Pro HD I downloaded the free HDV upgrade for Premiere Pro last night and although there is now an HDV option in the pulldown menu (way cool), the website doesn't have the GY-HD100 listed as a supported camera. No worries though, for years my old digital 8 was never in the listed for camera control so I just used the closest model to get control. Below is the link to download the update. http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/hdv.html

August 8th, 2005, 11:47 AM	#6
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	CineForm will support 25p and 24p in AspectHD. So the question is in the HDV I/O) routines done by Abobe. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

August 8th, 2005, 08:12 PM	#7
Ian E. Pearson Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 52	Vegas 6 Vegas 6 claims to support all those formats, including 720/24p. I can't back that up though because I haven't tried it.

August 9th, 2005, 08:47 AM	#10
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Aspect HD has supported capture and editing the new JVC modes for sometime; several of the JVC sales staff have been using Aspect HD to demonstrate real-time editing of their new camera. The data has been available from JVC for some time so most NLE providers should catch up soon :) __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

April 20th, 2005, 08:40 AM	#2
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Vegas 6 does too. HDV 24P support is built in to the included Cineform codec.

August 8th, 2005, 06:24 AM	#4
Philip Hill Tourist Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2	i found that the update provides for 1080 - 50i and 60i 720 - 30p only where's the 25p option? (also no support for JVC's 24P HDV)

August 8th, 2005, 08:00 AM	#5
Thomas Smet Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,719	It looks like nobody supports 25p or 24p HDV yet. I really hope this is fixed soon.

August 9th, 2005, 12:03 AM	#9
Scott Webster Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 136	Unofficial word on the Apple front is roughly a couple of weeks before we see any updates to Final Cut Pro for the JVC. From the sounds of things this will be similar for most other developers. -Matthew.

August 9th, 2005, 10:38 AM	#11
Glenn Johnson New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 7	How do you get on if you want real time play back on to a HD TV/monitor. Will this be displayed via the graphics card or do you need extra hardware e.g an all singing editing card... Thanks

August 9th, 2005, 11:25 AM	#12
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Aspect HD can do it via a dual head graphics card. Prospect HD does it via AJA Xena HDSDI card. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 9th, 2005, 11:38 AM	#13
Glenn Johnson New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 7	So basically I could have Adobe Premiere 1.5 with Aspect HD plug in, a graphics card like Matrox Parhelia and thats all I need to edit HDV 720p. (plus a high spec PC of course) I have been editing DV for a number of years and use a Pinnacle DV500 card. An editing card like this is not necessary then for HDV? The graphics card and processor do all the work? Excuse my naivety, but the whole NLE for HDV is a little confusing for me at present and I work with computers! Im thinking of building my own system, but the whole editing card issue is what I am concerned over. I apreciate your help on this David. Thanks

August 9th, 2005, 11:46 AM	#14
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Most NLE tools have switched to software approaches to editing rather than hardware acceleration. Aspect HD uses the CPU for all RT decoding and all effects, transitions and color correction, the GPU is only used to output scaling. As a result good CPU helsp (dual core -- more so) and graphics card need not be the most expensive (the Parhelia APVe is a good choice.) __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

August 9th, 2005, 02:27 PM	#15
Glenn Johnson New Boot Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 7	David I really appreciate your help on this. So just to confirm - with the matrox card I can play an HDV capture to an external HDTV/monitor from the adobe premiere timeline. Just like I used to be able to with standard DV.